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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:32 am    Post subject: where to live ?  Reply with quote

We decided to move away from Manchester,we have no family commitments here anymore ,the kids are likely to end up in london and our parents,siblings all live abroad now.
I have our business around the northwest ,but I think I can deal with that as most of the work is paperwork and a drive up once a week will deal with most visits I undertake.

So the question is where?Not london for certain,so what are our requirements....much dryer weather than manchester (not hard) ,somewhere pretty and countrysideish but not isolated ,decent access to the motorway network ,and not more than 4 hours drive from manchester .
And somewhere where house prices are not stupid,I want to downsize but not to what I could swap our house for in london for example.

Suggestions appreciated.
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North Yorkshire. Close enough to the North West, good train links to London and great roads.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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North Yorkshire. Close enough to the North West, good train links to London and great roads.


Sorry I need to say...down south...south of brum anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We would certainly consider Harrogate/York area. The East is always drier than the West. My brother lives in Kent and I really couldn't take the congestion that he puts up with on a daily basis.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We would certainly consider Harrogate/York area. The East is always drier than the West. My brother lives in Kent and I really couldn't take the congestion that he puts up with on a daily basis.


Isn't your brother the road planner? No sympathy from me I fear!  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another Vote for Harrogate, York but if you want to be south of Brum and 4hrs to Manc that pretty much leaves Oxfordshire, Glocs. Its well priced compared to anything further south, pretty, good transport links to London, decent boozers.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say somewhere around Banbury / Warwick / Stratford-on-Avon. Plenty of countryside, not too far from towns for good shopping facilities, plus close to the main line train services to London and Manchester.  Close to M40 for road connections.

Check for possibility of flooding though.....
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I've always heard Shropshire is lovely. And not too far away. But I'm not sure how dry it is.

What about north Norfolk? That's definitely much dryer, not too expensive but a good investment (prices are on the rise) and rather nice. It's around 4 hrs by car from Norwich to Manchester, or an hour by direct flight. If that's too far, perhaps Cambridgeshire.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very topical with Newcastle voted happiest place to live:


http://uk.businessinsider.com/eur...satisfied-with-their-lives-2016-2
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/ne...upon-tyne-happiest-place-10893537

Northumberland is also one of the driest counties in England, being in the shadow of the Pennines.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Isn't your brother the road planner? No sympathy from me I fear!  [/quote]

Town planner rather than road planner. Drives me mad when he goes on about the need to see the architectural changes as a timeline when you look at a building - what he means is they would rather force someone to put a flat roofed extension on a Georgian villa instead of one which blends in nicely with its surroundings. It allows other similarly mentally challenged individuals to look at a property and say "that is an extension added to that house after it was originally built". Morons!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about south Derbyshire or Leicestershire?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally (and I'm biased) around Northamptonshire.

I'd say further south of that but what you can get for your money the minute you go from Beds/Bucks/Warwicks over the Northants border is significantly better.

If you go for Northampton roughly (so close to Martin and I, a downside there I'll admit) then you've got:

1. Manchester 2.5 hrs away
2. Birmingham 1hr away
3. Leeds 2 hrs away
4. London 1hr or less on a fast direct train, 1hr 15 mins or so driving on a clear journey.

You are pretty centrally located for travel anywhere, plus lovely countryside all around.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll chuck in Nottingham/shire - decent (ish) access to M1 and airport (anyone know if they have improved the A453 yet?), cheap, plenty to do, and a lovely drive over the Peak District back to Mancland (stopping off at the Soldier Dick or the Cock Inn for a quickie along the way)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another one for Northamptonshire too based on the brief (not sure Harrogate is south of Birmingham   ), there are some lovely parts that are not remotely expensive.

Cambridgeshire is superb too although Cambridge itself is stupidly expensive.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea on your budget

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-39935502.html
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-49671811.html
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/proper...perty-51323122.html?premiumA=true
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/proper...perty-53244689.html?premiumA=true
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/proper...perty-37482381.html?premiumA=true
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-36131127.html

Frankly ludicrous value when my 4 Bed estate house is worth circa £475K where I live.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole of Wales fits your within-four-hours-drive criteria (and most of it is not as wet as the reputation suggests) - loads of cheap housing options with stunning countryside, and superb coast - remote locations or near to towns/cities.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[quote="Boxer6:545252
Isn't your brother the road planner? No sympathy from me I fear!  


Town planner rather than road planner. Drives me mad when he goes on about the need to see the architectural changes as a timeline when you look at a building - what he means is they would rather force someone to put a flat roofed extension on a Georgian villa instead of one which blends in nicely with its surroundings. It allows other similarly mentally challenged individuals to look at a property and say "that is an extension added to that house after it was originally built". Morons![/quote]

Did you both go to the same school?!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The whole of Wales fits your within-four-hours-drive criteria (and most of it is not as wet as the reputation suggests) - loads of cheap housing options with stunning countryside, and superb coast - remote locations or near to towns/cities.


Yes, but largely inhabited by large groups of middle-aged men indulging in close harmony singing.
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The whole of Wales fits your within-four-hours-drive criteria (and most of it is not as wet as the reputation suggests) - loads of cheap housing options with stunning countryside, and superb coast - remote locations or near to towns/cities.


But....miles from anywhere in truth (and I grew up in Wales)

A friend was grumbling about the horrific commuting time to Swansea, and he lives in Newport. As with Devon, unless you live close to Newport it's at least an hour before you get close to anywhere else.

I'd challenge anyone to drive from Pembroke to Manchester in less than 4 hrs though.......
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The whole of Wales fits your within-four-hours-drive criteria (and most of it is not as wet as the reputation suggests) - loads of cheap housing options with stunning countryside, and superb coast - remote locations or near to towns/cities.


Yes, but largely inhabited by large groups of middle-aged men indulging in close harmony singing.


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I'd say somewhere around Banbury / Warwick / Stratford-on-Avon. Plenty of countryside, not too far from towns for good shopping facilities, plus close to the main line train services to London and Manchester.  Close to M40 for road connections.

Check for possibility of flooding though.....


+1, but look out for a long queue of traffic behind a Standard Big 9.

Seriously, we are blessed with excellent road and rail connections here, whether heading north or south. Head to the south western part of the suggested area and you are into the northern edge of the Cotswolds, which is one of the nicest parts of the whole UK to live, IMO.
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The whole of Wales fits your within-four-hours-drive criteria (and most of it is not as wet as the reputation suggests) - loads of cheap housing options with stunning countryside, and superb coast - remote locations or near to towns/cities.


But....miles from anywhere in truth (and I grew up in Wales)

A friend was grumbling about the horrific commuting time to Swansea, and he lives in Newport. As with Devon, unless you live close to Newport it's at least an hour before you get close to anywhere else.

I'd challenge anyone to drive from Pembroke to Manchester in less than 4 hrs though.......


Just about doable if you don't hit the M6 at a bad time.  The roads down here are a lot better now - Pembroke to the Western outskirts of London is now down to about 3.5 hours.  Newport to Swansea can be done in less time than it takes to drive halfway across London, unless he's getting caught in snarl ups at either end of his journey.
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Just about doable if you don't hit the M6 at a bad time.  The roads down here are a lot better now - Pembroke to the Western outskirts of London is now down to about 3.5 hours.  Newport to Swansea can be done in less time than it takes to drive halfway across London, unless he's getting caught in snarl ups at either end of his journey.


Takes about 1.5 hrs I think, the problem is the constant snarl up so it can be double that.
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I'll chuck in Nottingham/shire - decent (ish) access to M1 and airport (anyone know if they have improved the A453 yet?), cheap, plenty to do, and a lovely drive over the Peak District back to Mancland (stopping off at the Soldier Dick or the Cock Inn for a quickie along the way)


A453 is reportedly very good now.  And we have extra tram lines now, for those homesick of Manchester.  South of Nottingham / Vale of Belvoir / Rutland area seems quite good.  Avoid The Meadows in Nottingham, even though it sounds idyllic.
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Cotswolds definitely

Broadway, chipping Norton,burford etc
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My first choice would be the Cotswolds, but I'd have to have a serious budget increase to get something I'd want.

Northamptonshire / Cambridshire and a lot of the other suggestions are all good options, but it all depends on what's important to you and the budget.

Just avoid Luton, that's something most of us have agreed on!
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The whole of Wales fits your within-four-hours-drive criteria (and most of it is not as wet as the reputation suggests) - loads of cheap housing options with stunning countryside, and superb coast - remote locations or near to towns/cities.


"Not as wet". All things are relative....
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Funnily enough ..the cotswolds and cambridgeshire were high up on our list ,but our list is very ignorant,and based upon brief observations whilst passing through and some minor internet research (googling 'britains driest places ') I have seen far more of the world than I have of the UK I am embarrassed to say.So nice to see some comments supporting that.

My Budget is not going to be huge ,I am lucky in that I have no mortgage and I enjoy not having one so the spend will be around the sort of figure I get for our house ,which is going to be around the 800k mark,and there are 2 of us with 2 dogs so I don't need a 6 bedroom estate .

So who on here actually lives in the cotswolds or cambridgeshire ?
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Did you both go to the same school?!


Who? Me and my brother or me and Boxer6?

Answer to both I am sure, is no!
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So who on here actually lives in...Cambridgeshire ?


Me - happy to point you in the right locations, frankly your budget will get you whatever you want!

Are you looking for a country-pile, good access to a town, modern, old etc.?
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Did you both go to the same school?!


Who? Me and my brother or me and Boxer6?

Answer to both I am sure, is no!


Did you not go to he same school as your brother then?   My sister went to the same schools I did.

I'm not sure I ever knew where you grew up, John, but I went to school in Kirky. Not the "better" non-RC one either, but as it was only a mile's walk away it was the nearest and therefore the only choice.
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So who on here actually lives in the cotswolds or cambridgeshire ?


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So who on here actually lives in...Cambridgeshire ?


Me - happy to point you in the right locations, frankly your budget will get you whatever you want!

Are you looking for a country-pile, good access to a town, modern, old etc.?


We have a conflict of interest ,I want to be not so far from a decent size town,but she likes the countryside.We don't need to consider anything to do with schools fortunately,so  flexible in that respect.
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So who on here actually lives in the cotswolds or cambridgeshire ?


I am about a half a mile away from the official Cotswolds boundary. Happy to advise on where to look and where to avoid.
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http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34498968.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-52171222.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-55823003.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34691187.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-54108650.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-35531496.html

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-52568942.html

All of the above are in what would be considered to be desirable locations. Even those in more rural locations are within very easy reach of major road networks (1 mile or so). If you venture into the true Cotswolds expect to add £50 - £100K at least to these prices and well in excess of that for Chipping Campden.
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The whole of Wales fits your within-four-hours-drive criteria (and most of it is not as wet as the reputation suggests) - loads of cheap housing options with stunning countryside, and superb coast - remote locations or near to towns/cities.


"Not as wet". All things are relative....


There have been many a day like this when hearing of the rest of the country in deluge...


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Did you both go to the same school?!


Who? Me and my brother or me and Boxer6?

Answer to both I am sure, is no!


You and your brother!
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Henley in Arden is also worth a shout
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Wiltshire and Somerset are very affordable, house-wise and it's easy enough to be near Bath or Bristol (or both) and therefore the M5 for access back to Manchester.
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Funnily enough ..the cotswolds and cambridgeshire were high up on our list ,but our list is very ignorant,and based upon brief observations whilst passing through and some minor internet research (googling 'britains driest places ') I have seen far more of the world than I have of the UK I am embarrassed to say.So nice to see some comments supporting that.

My Budget is not going to be huge ,I am lucky in that I have no mortgage and I enjoy not having one so the spend will be around the sort of figure I get for our house ,which is going to be around the 800k mark,and there are 2 of us with 2 dogs so I don't need a 6 bedroom estate .

So who on here actually lives in the cotswolds or cambridgeshire ?


I would have thought Cambridgeshire/Norfolk is cheaper than the Cotswolds as it less fashionable with the London set. And drier.

£800k ought to be ample for something nice if you're not after size. East Anglia is pretty cheap.
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Cambridgeshire, Norfolk etc are very cold in the winter when the cold air blasts in from the north-east (Scandinavia), straight across all that flat land with no hills to deflect it.
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Did you both go to the same school?!


Who? Me and my brother or me and Boxer6?

Answer to both I am sure, is no!


Did you not go to he same school as your brother then?   My sister went to the same schools I did.

I'm not sure I ever knew where you grew up, John, but I went to school in Kirky. Not the "better" non-RC one either, but as it was only a mile's walk away it was the nearest and therefore the only choice.


Brought up in Helensburgh and went to school in both Helensburgh and then Glasgow.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't see the budget before, £800K WILL get you a mansion in most of Somerset! I therefore change my suggestion to East Wilts or West Berks. The villages surrounding Marlborough/Hungerford/Newbury are all nice and somewhere like Pangbourne is too. Good train links and not too far from the M4 corridor.

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I'm with Cotswolds too. Access to motorways, airports, London is all great.

Not tempted abroad?
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I quite liked the look of Herefordshire and Worcestershire when I did some work in the area a few years back. Close to the M5 too so reasonably easy to get to Manchester. The part of Gloucestershire around Prescott seems quite idyllic too. I can't offer any further expertise than that though.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks good

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-48868328.html
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boxer6 wrote:


Did you not go to he same school as your brother then?   My sister went to the same schools I did.


None of the triplets go to the same school; and only two managed even one year at the same school - they're 14 in May so they won't ever share schools again, most likely. Different abilities and focus means what's good for one is dire for another!

For my part, I certainly didn't go to the same school as my older sister: I would have looked a bit odd, being a boy and all that!

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We have a conflict of interest ,I want to be not so far from a decent size town,but she likes the countryside.We don't need to consider anything to do with schools fortunately,so  flexible in that respect.


I'd be cautious on some locations then as what the wife wants may be very different to you.

Cambridgeshire is nice. But....Cambridge & Peterborough are the only decent sized towns, you can count out Peterborough and Cambridge is lovely but has horrific traffic.

Go the the Cotswolds and you need to be close to Cheltenham (which is a fantastic place but expensive), Cirencester or Warwick.

It's another reason I'd really suggest looking at Northants (or even MK but your budget won't go so far here).

If you're used to Manchester then you probably want something fairly large when you talk about a decent sized town (e.g. Banbury is nice but way too small/provincial compared to Northampton/MK)

The properties I'd pitched were mansions for £1m ish, for £800K then you'll get a serious pad in the countryside but close to a town. Cambridge prices can be pricey due to sheer supply/demand close to Cambridge.

I've seen a lot of the UK thanks to jobs and if I didn't live here then it would be Cheltenham or the New Forest.

EDIT - I'd also be considering closeness to London for kids and airports for holidays/relatives then. My dad lives in deepest Devon and going on holiday usually involves a 5 hr shlep (and often an overnight too) to Gatwick or Heathrow as flight options from Bristol/Birmingham are limited.
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Nice - near Market Harborough - http://www.rightmove.co.uk/proper...perty-34270722.html?premiumA=true

Character - http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-33378756.html

Country location and middle of the country - http://www.rightmove.co.uk/proper...perty-39676338.html?premiumA=true

Perfect in terms of the actual property? - http://www.rightmove.co.uk/proper...perty-39334212.html?premiumA=true

A mansion but in the middle of Weston Favell, included purely for it's oddness! - http://www.rightmove.co.uk/proper...perty-54588044.html?premiumA=true

Perfect for Silverstone and garage with a lift. Buy it so I can borrow the lift   - http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-40009056.html
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:


Cambridgeshire is nice. But....Cambridge & Peterborough are the only decent sized towns, you can count out Peterborough and Cambridge is lovely but has horrific traffic.



Agreed..ish. Peterborough is probably much better than in my day. Cambridge traffic is avoidable if you know where to go. Newmarket also good, though technically Suffolk.

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