The Motor Forum Forum Index The Motor Forum
"We are mature men in the highest cadres of our careers"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   Join! (free) Join! (free)
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Evoque - a bargain?
Page Previous  1, 2
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Motor Forum Forum Index -> Read All About It
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Dr. Hfuhruhurr
Propellorhead

My Car: Mini Countryman Cooper S All4

Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 15518


Location: Europa

PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

I think Michael is right - JLR are in a good position to use their brands optimally - so let Jaguar make the saloons, coupes, convertibles and (hopefully) shooting brakes; and LR can stick to 4x4s of all kinds from Evoque to Defender. However, I think Jaguar should offer 4wd versions of some of their range, though with normal ride height - the idea being you can get to work when it snows, not that you can go green-laning ...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gonnabuildabuggy
Nuclear

My Car: Sorted for E's

Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 12069


Location: Somewhere, rounadabouts

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
However, I think Jaguar should offer 4wd versions of some of their range, though with normal ride height - the idea being you can get to work when it snows, not that you can go green-laning ...


What, like say an X Type with 4WD  

Must say they appeal for that very reason, standard car but with benefit of 4WD, much the same as Golf VR6 does.

so thats...Avantime, P38, Grand Cherokee, Golf VR6, X Type 3L estate.....XJ, E38, CL/SEC........
_________________
Summer's here and the time is right
For racing in the street.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Twelfth Monkey
Nuclear

My Car: B7 RS4 Saloon, A3 Sportback 2.0T

Joined: 23 Dec 2006
Posts: 14462


Location: The Fortress of Ultimate Darkness; that or the pub.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I note with raised eyebrow that the four pot diesel Evoque in Autocar is £40k, specced up to nearly £47k.  Piss-taking prices.

Regarding the car itself, I can't see how it warrants the description of the most important new car of the year.
_________________
"Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
gonnabuildabuggy
Nuclear

My Car: Sorted for E's

Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 12069


Location: Somewhere, rounadabouts

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not studied the specs in detail but it strikes me that the "base" models at £28K are fairly good value for the amount of kit you get, and you really are paying for FG if you go beyond that.

Most important new car? That's probably the Nissan Leaf or one of the many hybrids in truth as these are real game changers. However the Evoque is potentially a game changer too.

Will this signal the "downsizing" of many existing RR drivers into something which still makes a statement but is also more suitable to the real world (assuming you don't live in a field in Cumbria)? Will many executive car drivers (3 series, 5 series) trade into an evoque for the brand name over the size (thereby proving that brand is all to most buyers?)

Or will it just be a very good car?

I'm not into new cars but this one interests me in lots of ways, so much so I contacted them to get a quote.

Will be interesting to see what happens.....

PS. RR marketing team must be down for launch of the decade on this one.
_________________
Summer's here and the time is right
For racing in the street.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Grampa
Turbocharged

My Car: 2006 Mini Cooper 2010 Scirocco 2.0 TSI GT 1962 Morris Minor

Joined: 28 Dec 2006
Posts: 4491



PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frank Bullitt wrote:
I'd wait to see the hairshirt version before passing comment on the interior


Just taken a look at the RR site - there doesn't appear to be a low rent interior even on the base model.
_________________
Andrew L
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Racing Teatray
Nuclear

My Car: BMW 440i GC and Fiat 500

Joined: 09 Jan 2007
Posts: 12819


Location: Wrong side of the tracks

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was a bit startled to note that even that "coupe" version they tested weighed 1,815kg!!!

Porky bugger.
_________________
'Bahnwafting...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gonnabuildabuggy
Nuclear

My Car: Sorted for E's

Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 12069


Location: Somewhere, rounadabouts

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pure

ABS
Cruise Control
EPAS (Electronic Power Assisted Steering)
Electric Park Brake (EPB)
Parking Aid - Rear
Hill Launch Assist
Rear screen - Heated
Push Button Start
Proximity sensing & touch detection for overhead map lights
Global opening for all windows
Stowage - centre console - covered
Sun visors - illuminated vanity mirrors (driver & passenger)
Luggage Cover
Luggage Compartment - anchor points
Rear seat 60/40 split
5" Colour TFT Driver Information Centre
Illumination - Footwell, Glovebox, load compartment lamp x1
Interior mood lighting - customer configurable
Illumination - White Lighting: in door release and over head console downlighter.  Front Header Courtesy (with delay Theatre dimming) + Maplights
Rear seat - 5 door - 3 seat bench
Rear seat - coupé - 2 individual seats
Bonnet Louvres in dark atlas (Coupé only)
Side fender blade & grille in brunel ( 5 door only)
Side fender blade & grille in dark altas (Coupé only)
Waist finisher - High Gloss Black
Tailgate finisher - dark atlas (Coupé only) or brunel (5 door only)
Oxford Leather Gearknob (Manual only)
Satin Brushed Aluminium Horizontal (IP) Finisher
Satin Brushed Aluminium Centre Console Finisher
Rear Spoiler
Oxford Leather Steering Wheel
Steering column - manual adjustment (4 way)
Auxillary power socket - front & luggage compartment
3.5mm stereo auxiliary input socket
Airbags - front (driver and front passenger)
Airbags - knee (driver)
Airbags - side curtain, driver and front passenger and row 2
Hazard warning lights under heavy braking
Height adjustable seat belts - front
Child seat ISOFIX anchor points
Seat belt reminder
Roll Stability Control
Key - control - remote lock/unlock/double lock/ lights on / tailgate open


Extra on Dynamic over Pure

Adaptive Dynamics  - including Dynamic Mode
Dynamic Front Bumper
Dynamic Side Sills
Dynamic Rear Bumper
Dynamic grille in Santorini Black
Dynamic Exhaust (including skid plate)
Bonnet louvres in Santorini Black (Coupé only)
Side fender blade in Santorini Black
Aeroflip on Rear Spoiler in Santornin Black
Tailgate finisher in Santorini Black
Exterior mirror caps in Santorini Black
Dynamic Perforated Leather Gearknob (manual only)
Aluminium Pedal Finisher Kit
Textured Metal Horizontal (IP) Finisher
Textured Metal Centre Console Finisher
Prestige Luxury Carpet Mats with binding
Dynamic Perforated Leather Steering Wheel

Extra on Prestige over Pure

Grille in Atlas
Bonnet lourves in Atlas  (Coupé only)
Side fender blade in Altas
Lower door cladding insert in Atlas
Waist finisher in Bright finisher (5 door only)
Waist finisher in Gloss Black (Coupé only)
Tailgate finisher in Atlas
Prestige Luxury Carpet Mats with binding
Real Wood Horizontal (IP) Finisher (see colour & trim tab for colour)
Satin Brushed Aluminium Centre Console Finisher (see colour & trim tab for colour)
_________________
Summer's here and the time is right
For racing in the street.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bob Sacamano
Nuclear

My Car: BMW 320d M Sport Auto

Joined: 02 Jan 2007
Posts: 11884



PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, given that a Pure is pretty well equipped, what does one of those with the 4WD and diesel engine work out at?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gonnabuildabuggy
Nuclear

My Car: Sorted for E's

Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 12069


Location: Somewhere, rounadabouts

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the
Road Price


Range Rover Evoque
eD4 150hp 6 Speed Manual 2WD#
eD4 Pure 6 Speed Manual 2WD 27950
eD4 Pure TECH 6 Speed Manual 2WD* 29850
eD4 Prestige 6 Speed Manual 2WD 35625
eD4 Prestige LUX 6 Speed Manual 2WD** 39950
TD4 150hp 6 Speed Manual 4WD#
TD4 Pure 6 Speed Manual 4WD 28700
TD4 Pure TECH 6 Speed Manual 4WD* 30600
TD4 Prestige 6 Speed Manual 4WD 36375
TD4 Prestige LUX 6 Speed Manual 4WD** 40700
SD4 190hp 6 Speed Manual 4WD
SD4 Pure 6 Speed Manual 4WD 29700
SD4 Pure TECH 6 Speed Manual 4WD* 31600
SD4 Dynamic 6 Speed Manual 4WD 37375
SD4 Dynamic LUX 6 Speed Manual 4WD** 41700
SD4 Prestige 6 Speed Manual 4WD 37375
SD4 Prestige LUX 6 Speed Manual 4WD** 41700
SD4 190hp 6 Speed Automatic 4WD
SD4 Pure 6 Speed Automatic 4WD 31300
SD4 Pure TECH 6 Speed Automatic 4WD* 33200
SD4 Dynamic 6 Speed Automatic 4WD 38975
SD4 Dynamic LUX 6 Speed Automatic 4WD** 43300
SD4 Prestige 6 Speed Automatic 4WD 38975
SD4 Prestige LUX 6 Speed Automatic 4WD** 43300
Si4 240hp 6 Speed Automatic 4WD
Si4 Dynamic 6 Speed Automatic 4WD 38975
Si4 Dynamic LUX 6 Speed Automatic 4WD** 43300

Range Rover Evoque Coupé
eD4 150hp 6 Speed Manual 2WD#
eD4 Pure 6 Speed Manual 2WD 28950
eD4 Pure TECH 6 Speed Manual 2WD* 30850
eD4 Prestige 6 Speed Manual 2WD 36625
eD4 Prestige LUX 6 Speed Manual 2WD** 40950
TD4 150hp 6 Speed Manual 4WD#
TD4 Pure 6 Speed Manual 4WD 29700
TD4 Pure TECH 6 Speed Manual 4WD* 31600
TD4 Prestige 6 Speed Manual 4WD 37375
TD4 Prestige LUX 6 Speed Manual 4WD** 41700
SD4 190hp 6 Speed Manual 4WD
SD4 Pure 6 Speed Manual 4WD 30700
SD4 Pure TECH 6 Speed Manual 4WD* 32600
SD4 Dynamic 6 Speed Manual 4WD 38375
SD4 Dynamic LUX 6 Speed Manual 4WD** 42700
SD4 Prestige 6 Speed Manual 4WD 38375
SD4 Prestige LUX 6 Speed Manual 4WD** 42700
SD4 190hp 6 Speed Automatic 4WD
SD4 Pure 6 Speed Automatic 4WD 32300
SD4 Pure TECH 6 Speed Automatic 4WD* 34200
SD4 Dynamic 6 Speed Automatic 4WD 39975
SD4 Dynamic LUX 6 Speed Automatic 4WD** 44300
SD4 Prestige 6 Speed Automatic 4WD 39975
SD4 Prestige LUX 6 Speed Automatic 4WD** 44300
Si4 240hp 6 Speed Automatic 4WD
Si4 Dynamic 6 Speed Automatic 4WD 39975
Si4 Dynamic LUX 6 Speed Automatic 4WD** 44300
_________________
Summer's here and the time is right
For racing in the street.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dr. Hfuhruhurr
Propellorhead

My Car: Mini Countryman Cooper S All4

Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 15518


Location: Europa

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The prices and options don't correlate, unless LR really are charging an extra eight thousand for:

Grille in Atlas
Bonnet lourves in Atlas  (Coupé only)
Side fender blade in Altas
Lower door cladding insert in Atlas
Waist finisher in Bright finisher (5 door only)
Waist finisher in Gloss Black (Coupé only)
Tailgate finisher in Atlas
Prestige Luxury Carpet Mats with binding
Real Wood Horizontal (IP) Finisher (see colour & trim tab for colour)
Satin Brushed Aluminium Centre Console Finisher (see colour & trim tab for colour)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bob Sacamano
Nuclear

My Car: BMW 320d M Sport Auto

Joined: 02 Jan 2007
Posts: 11884



PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that the price of £29700 for a TD Pure 4WD is not bad. Don't go mad with the options and run it for a couple of years and I reckon you'd be pleasantly surprised when you came to trade it in.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gonnabuildabuggy
Nuclear

My Car: Sorted for E's

Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 12069


Location: Somewhere, rounadabouts

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right. Looks like their features list misses out a lot of stuff like Xenon's, Park assist, etc.

Nonetheless you're basically paying for FG IMHO.

If there is anywhere you can link a spreadsheet to I'll post it all up.
_________________
Summer's here and the time is right
For racing in the street.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gonnabuildabuggy
Nuclear

My Car: Sorted for E's

Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 12069


Location: Somewhere, rounadabouts

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Sacamano wrote:
I would say that the price of £29700 for a TD Pure 4WD is not bad. Don't go mad with the options and run it for a couple of years and I reckon you'd be pleasantly surprised when you came to trade it in.


If you get one of the first ones I reckon you could sell it on in 6 months and break even at worst. Too late to order now though....Order now for March/April delivery.

Personally I reckon £29,700 for a TD Pure 4WD is good value as well, consider how much a well spec'd Focus or Mini Countryman lists at, especially with all that kit on it.
_________________
Summer's here and the time is right
For racing in the street.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Twelfth Monkey
Nuclear

My Car: B7 RS4 Saloon, A3 Sportback 2.0T

Joined: 23 Dec 2006
Posts: 14462


Location: The Fortress of Ultimate Darkness; that or the pub.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last week's Autocar suggests that the three-door variant costs £1k more than the five-door.

Is there any way that this isn't charging what the market will bear?  Surely the five-door is more complex (and therefore expensive) to make?
_________________
"Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Humphrey The Pug
Nuclear

My Car: Depends on what has the most fuel!

Joined: 31 Dec 2006
Posts: 14646


Location: Here

PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Last week's Autocar suggests that the three-door variant costs £1k more than the five-door.

Is there any way that this isn't charging what the market will bear?  Surely the five-door is more complex (and therefore expensive) to make?


Yes but I guess LR are anticipating the 3 door will be more desirable, The Megane Coupe' is more expensive than the hatch.
_________________
Mummy, Daddy, Sissy, Sassy Baby.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Michael
Nuclear

My Car: is vast.

Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 10367


Location: On the hill

PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the 3 door is a 'coupe' so is easily worth £1k more. I'd hazard a guess that most people will go for the 5 door as it looks better and saves that wedge of cash.
_________________
For office use only.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Matt
Nuclear

My Car: Astra Coupe 1.8 SE2, Corsa 1.2 SXI

Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 11665


Location: Plymouth, UK

PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 5-door definitely does look better.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Stuntman
Twin-charged

My Car: M3 Saloon, Cayman S and GT4

Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 8046


Location: Cheltenham

PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a good look at both the 3dr and 5dr Evoques (I'm not going to call the 3dr a "coupe") yesterday at Shelsley Walsh.

I was impressed with both.  I think it's very good-looking for the type of car it is, and not too big either.  Sensibly-specced it'd be a decent and rewarding purchase I'd say.

Although like GZ I'm waiting for the 5-pot Turbo Manual
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
simonp
Supercharged

My Car: is silver again

Joined: 14 Aug 2007
Posts: 7063


Location: Wiltshire

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Racing Teatray wrote:
GZ defending a four-pot car. Whatever next!!?!

I actually like the Evoque but they've done their very best to try to put me off by:

(a) a dull four cylinder-only engine range;

(b) petrol engine only available in the tackiest, most expensive (read "bling") trim level; and

(c) a perverse range of trim combinations which left me unable to create a spec that I actually liked.

Wankers.


And many years later they go and do exactly the same with the Jaguar E-Pace...


_________________
Washed it!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Motor Forum Forum Index -> Read All About It All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page Previous  1, 2
Page 2 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Card File  Gallery  Forum Archive
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Create your own free forum | Buy a domain to use with your forum