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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:00 am    Post subject: Ready for it.....  Reply with quote

Stepping out rear end that is.

It's wet and I just returned from taking my Ma to the airport so some fun to be had on a deserted-ish A217. Coming off the Kingswood roundabout I was conservative with the throttle with lock on, straightened it up and prodded the throttle. Not a dry-weather, warm evening prod; more a stiff press. As it says in the title, i was ready for it and so the step out was a grinning-ape affair as opposed to a trouser moment.  Fuck knows what the updated engine is like in the wet and no wonder the new B5 offers x-drive.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was a "dab of oppo" required?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rather than a dab of a Pampers wet wipe?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: Ready for it..... Reply with quote

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..... a grinning-ape affair.....

Hence the nickname of "Gorilla" ???
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As per Chris Harris "That's not you saving the car that's Traction Control", unless of course you were brave enough to turn everything off.  The TC's pretty good in the Cayman and allows a good 20% of slip angle before it decides the drivers useless and gathers it all up for you.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a non-deliberate "moment" in the V60 last week. Caught me totally off guard on a wet roundabout. Where there is normally plenty of grip, there was virtually none and, yes, it was the car saving it, not me. I felt like a right plonker.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had similar on the way home last night, must have been diesel on the roundabout because the front went first immediately followed by the rear.  No drama really, but not exactly an enjoyable experience.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely the car better than me. I have had a few catches to make on the bike this winter: again the chassis and suspension are good enough to assist my input: I'm not Marc Marquez but I have pretty good "feel" on the bike.

The biggest sideways car-catch I ever had was in the MX-5, but they're made for that. On a bike I was 90% highsided on my NSR 250 MC18. 90% because I basically did a handstand on the bars before regaining my seat. If I'd had shorter legs I'd have been over the top (i.e. highsided).

I was properly highsided off a KR1 in a race. Damaged bike; hurt pride fortunately.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Ready for it..... Reply with quote

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Big Blue wrote:
..... a grinning-ape affair.....

Hence the nickname of "Gorilla" ???


I thought we called him Big Blue?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:
I had similar on the way home last night, must have been diesel on the roundabout because the front went first immediately followed by the rear.  No drama really, but not exactly an enjoyable experience.


I'm sure there was something on the surface. It was fine the previous few days in the wet, at the same spot.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been surprised at how oversteery the 320 is - I assumed the xDrive would make it less rwd.
I know the roads have been greasy but a couple of them have been 4th gear when it comes on boost!

The Nissan scares me at the moment  
As mentioned elsewhere, sliding round a roundabout at 25mph on a steady throttle isn't enjoyable so using it on Thursday, Friday and last night in conditions around 0 degrees have been like a punishment.
Roll on the better weather.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roadsterstu wrote:
I had a non-deliberate "moment" in the V60 last week. Caught me totally off guard on a wet roundabout. Where there is normally plenty of grip, there was virtually none and, yes, it was the car saving it, not me. I felt like a right plonker.


I had something similar in the Saab recently. I have no electronic aids beyond TC (Which doesn't appear to do anything) so a dab of oppo and a bootful of 3rd gear were enough to see me facing the correct direction again.

I may have been entering a wet roundabout a little too quickly. Maybe.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went out in the MX-5 the other day.  I always drive it with the DSC off.  It doesn't remove all the driver aids but does allow enough slip to get it wrong.  I managed to catch it when I went around a wet, muddy corner, but I wasn't really going that fast.  The front end let go first, which I really hate!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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....The front end let go first, which I really hate!


I've had that feeling a few times in the 320 but I think it's actually just that the steering is so light and feel-less you think it's floating.
It's a bit of a disappointment in that respect.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Mazda's steering isn't particularly light. At least I was turning the wheel the correct way to catch the back when it did the same!  
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My most memorable drive was many years ago in an mx5. The roads were wet, tyres were close to end of life and I had a 20 mile 'driving god' session with the tail out on most corners. It felt completely controllable.

The Porsche has amazing levels of grip and really needs provoking to step out.
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One of my most memorable drives was in the snow from Edinburgh airport attempting to get to Aberdeen. It was all going so well until I got to Dunblane and the police turned me round as the conditions were so bad a few hundred yards further on that a snowplough had got stuck on a slight incline.  The advice was to head into the town and check into a hotel for the night. I was OK as aI was travelling but the next guest was a local who lived just up the road and only had with him the clothes in which he was standing, having left for work that morning and expecting to be able to get home in the evening.......
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why were you going from Edinburgh to Aberdeen via Dunblane?
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In those days, BA ran a "shuttle service" to Glasgow, Edinburgh and Manchester from Heathrow. We just had open tickets at work, no need to book a specific flight. Plus with the shuttle there was no luggage restriction, you could take 2 or 3 suitcases full of heavy papers for running training courses etc on the standard ticket.
I phoned the client from Swindon before leaving to check all was OK, and there was at that time no hint of a snowfall.
Drove to Heathrow and plane for Edinburgh took off on time.
Plan was to drive up to Dundee then Aberdeen but there was a sudden large snowfall when we were on the approach to Edinburgh which closed the airport.  Cue diversion to Manchester to refuel......

Then a rapid dash to Edinburgh when the airport re-opened. Forth Bridge was closed so no option but to head inland.

The snowfall was so sudden and severe that the next day I was heading back to Edinburgh airport and a return flight to Heathrow as the road towards Dundee still hadn't been cleared
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please tell me you didn't get a puncture on the way...


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Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
In those days, .......a return flight to Heathrow as the road towards Dundee still hadn't been cleared




Must've been before I was born, I can't remember the weather being that bad  
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Please tell me you didn't get a puncture on the way...



No but he had to stop 3 times to clean the car.
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^ Snow is a pretty good cleaning tool; I used to take my own ice scraper/window cleaner in my hand luggage
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^ Snow is a pretty good cleaning tool; I used to take my own ice scraper/window cleaner in my hand luggage


Couldn't do that now!
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^ Snow is a pretty good cleaning tool; I used to take my own ice scraper/window cleaner in my hand luggage


Spare wheel had to be checked I presume  
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I drew the line at taking my own spare wheel !
In those days almost every car had a full-sized spare wheel and tyre as standard anyway, such is progress :-(

I used to be able to carry a proper "golfing" umbrella as hand luggage too, alongside the cabin bag. You can't even do that today (any umbrella has to fit inside your hand luggage).  The world really is becoming more of a crap place to live in, and travel around in, with every passing year
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I know. I really miss the days of falling all over golf umbrellas as I try to board a plane and get my luggage in the lockers.


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Chris on a flight with golf umbrella handy:




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I miss the days when a gentleman could board a plane with full set of golf clubs and his trusty gundog.
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I miss the days when a gentleman could board a plane with full set of golf clubs and his trusty gundog.
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Look at that sausage!
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Like me, I don't think you have a lot of choice when it comes to the occasional dab of oppo BB - it's mandatory!
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Big Blue wrote:
Chris on a flight with golf umbrella handy:





Baby safely stored over head

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