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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:16 pm    Post subject: DS 7 Crossback  Reply with quote

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news...7-crossback-suv-set-rival-audi-q5


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like that, the colour looks shit (literally and figuratively) in the photo but on the Autocar website it looks good. It's certainly more interesting than a Q5.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that actually looks really good. A few interesting design touches, not too fussy, and an interior that looks inviting (and with a normal wheel / dials arrangement). Although I expect that is the top price model on display on both external and internal views.  

Price wise if it is as big as a Q5, but priced like a Q3, then that will attract people. But I'll believe the quoted prices when I see them. The lack of AWD will put some people off.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just what the world needs - another mid-sized 4x4...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The distorted reflection in the background could be the Q5 they modeled this on. It does just look like a Q5 with cheap details to me, it's a mess.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a Q5 rival without AWD. I'd never buy a car that looked like this without it. And that ridiculously large screen stuck on the dash looks like an afterthought, rather than a coherent piece of design. Tesla have a lot to answer for in starting off this trend.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's not a Q5 rival without AWD. I'd never buy a car that looked like this without it. .


Depends on how high the kerbs are on the school run surely?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks...not bad actually.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm disappointed, it just looks like a fussy, sparkly Q5. I thought DS were going to major on avantgarde styling. That said, I really like the DS5, which has sold in single figures so I'm obviously no barometer on what joe public want. I can't see the lack of four wheel drive being much of a problem, it's a high seating position and projecting a good image that people care about, the latter being somewhat more of a problem I suspect.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm disappointed, it just looks like a fussy, sparkly Q5. I thought DS were going to major on avantgarde styling.


I'm a bit confused as well. So CitroŽn is the funky arm and DS is for luxury.

Even so, despite some lovely details and great interior this is the most boring CitroŽn for a while.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

£30-£40k, FWD, and then 1.2, 1.5, 1.6 engines . HA!.

Me and cars are going to fall out if they carry on like this.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure it's different enough and that large screen in the dash just looks ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Me and cars are going to fall out if they carry on like this.


+1, at least they're still making some interesting stuff but unfortunately interesting stuff doesn't depreciate to like it used too.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it looks like a 4x4 but isn't actually 4wd?

That makes perfect sense.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So it looks like a 4x4 but isn't actually 4wd?

That makes perfect sense.


Which it actually does as most people neither use nor need AWD.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael wrote:
Blarno wrote:
So it looks like a 4x4 but isn't actually 4wd?

That makes perfect sense.


Which it actually does as most people neither use nor need AWD.


Exactly, they just want the look so there's no point in dragging an AWD system around.  I couldn't buy a 2WD SUV.   If I bought and SUV, I'd want it to be able to perform like one should even it wasn't used all that often.
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Andy C wrote:
£30-£40k, FWD, and then 1.2, 1.5, 1.6 engines . HA!.

Me and cars are going to fall out if they carry on like this.


This, and the trend for everything to get taller is one of the reasons I'm sticking with the Scirocco for the foreseeable.

Having said that I think this DS is one of the better looking of the breed - in a nice car for someone else kind of way.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks lovely outside but what the fuck is that screen about? Looks like one of those cheap flip-out DIN things you get on eBay from China, except this will only be available when you just mass-tick the options list at great cost.

Where I live the 2WD 4x4-look is ideal as there is absolutely no need for 4WD and the roads are shite.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The big screen is an obvious next step isn't it?

Tesla have started the size trend and Merc in particular have made a point of NOT integrating it in the dashboard, this is just an amalgamation of those 2 ideas.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The big screen is an obvious next step isn't it?

Tesla have started the size trend and Merc in particular have made a point of NOT integrating it in the dashboard, this is just an amalgamation of those 2 ideas.


Got to be -  simpler, cheaper and future proof.
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Andy C wrote:
£30-£40k, FWD, and then 1.2, 1.5, 1.6 engines . HA!.

Me and cars are going to fall out if they carry on like this.


I really struggle to see the issue that people have with smaller engines whic produce figures that are comparable with larger engines of old, technology moves on.
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Andy C wrote:
£30-£40k, FWD, and then 1.2, 1.5, 1.6 engines . HA!.

Me and cars are going to fall out if they carry on like this.


I really struggle to see the issue that people have with smaller engines whic produce figures that are comparable with larger engines of old, technology moves on.


A 600cc sportsbike is about as quick as a litre bike, quicker in and out of turns and easier to throw about. However to get it to do that you have to wring its neck mercilessly and the slightest error takes about half a mile to recover. It's tiresome even though it's just as quick.

That's why.
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Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Andy C wrote:
£30-£40k, FWD, and then 1.2, 1.5, 1.6 engines . HA!.

Me and cars are going to fall out if they carry on like this.


I really struggle to see the issue that people have with smaller engines whic produce figures that are comparable with larger engines of old, technology moves on.


Because in the real world they fail to meet the performance and fuel consumption claims made.
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Andy C wrote:
£30-£40k, FWD, and then 1.2, 1.5, 1.6 engines . HA!.

Me and cars are going to fall out if they carry on like this.

Perhaps it should be renamed
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DetmoldDick wrote:
Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Andy C wrote:
£30-£40k, FWD, and then 1.2, 1.5, 1.6 engines . HA!.

Me and cars are going to fall out if they carry on like this.


I really struggle to see the issue that people have with smaller engines whic produce figures that are comparable with larger engines of old, technology moves on.


Because in the real world they fail to meet the performance and fuel consumption claims made.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the design of that. I still think DS should just be Citroen, marketed to buggery and then rake in the pennies.
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Big Blue wrote:
Looks lovely outside but what the fuck is that screen about? Looks like one of those cheap flip-out DIN things you get on eBay from China, except this will only be available when you just mass-tick the options list at great cost.

Where I live the 2WD 4x4-look is ideal as there is absolutely no need for 4WD and the roads are shite.


It's so the old bastards who buy the majority of Citroens can see the controls....
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The DS brand could be very successful but Citroen have to commit long term to being consistent in their pricing and marketing and to the point of separate showrooms - like MINI. Audi, and Lexus.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Sacamano wrote:
It's certainly more interesting than a Q5.

A tub of lard is more interesting than a Q5
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
It's certainly more interesting than a Q5.

A tub of lard is more interesting than a Q5


The Q5 has great proportions (well the old one did not sure I've seen a new one). With a decent petrol engine I'd be very happy with one.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^ I agree.  The Q5 looks very nice, the Q3 quite nice, and the Q7 and Q2 much less so to my eyes.
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Stuntman wrote:
The Q5 looks very nice.

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Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Stuntman wrote:
The Q5 looks very nice.

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Nah, there will be a few who agree on here I bet.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Q5 is ok but the Q3 is a dumpy shitbox.

Did DS or Audi do the weird silver prongy sidebits on the grill first?
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cbeaks1 wrote:
The Q5 is ok but the Q3 is a dumpy shitbox.



The RS one is supposed to be a good drive but the proportions are just awful.

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