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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:16 pm    Post subject: New car collected  Reply with quote

But not mine... as mentioned before, the maternal element has decided that she wants to get a new car. Lead contender was always the A1 until increasing granny duties made her doubt that it has a big enough boot. So then she, without any prompting from me, decided that she might quite like a Mini Countryman. You know it's serious when they keep telling they've seen another one on the road...

So off we toddled today to the Mini dealer in Ipswich to (a) try one and see whether she actually likes it in the metal and to drive and (b) see just how good a deal they can do on run-out stock versus approved used.

First things first, she liked the size and the interior design (never a given with a Mini especially for anyone used to sober Audi interiors). I'd never poked around one before myself and they are certainly a useful size. Spacious full-stop, never mind for something a whisker under 4m in length (handily shorter than an A3) . Getting child seats and pranks in should be no problem and the rear seats slide back and forth which is handy. At the tender age of 70, Mum also liked the raised seating height as it was easier to get in and out. Also feels better made than I expected with decent materials and finish, and a satisfyingly solid thunk to the doors.

So then it was on to the test-drive and she tried a petrol Cooper All4 auto (it was the only petrol auto they had we could try and her main critieria were that it had to have a petrol engine and an auto box). That was interesting because we had in mind the Cooper auto but 2wd. She enjoyed the drive. Liked the raised position compared to her A3, liked the auto box and liked the road holding. Said it felt planted and "solid". Only negative was that the performance was "adequate" but no more. No surprise there since her A3 will crack 60 in 9 secs whereas a 4wd auto Cooper struggles to crack 12 seconds(!).

So she decided she definitely wanted one. And when we got back it transpired that the only new unregistered petrol autos left, unless you went for the new model, were all Cooper S All4s. Which I didn't think she'd go for as they are rather more expensive than she'd had in mind. But the Mini chap, prompted by me, sharpened his pencil satisfactorily and so she has duly ordered a Cooper S All4.

Turns out that living in the sticks she really likes the idea of 4wd and, whilst she originally thought it a bit daft at her age to go for a "go faster model", she could see that having more oomph than the standard Cooper offers made a certain degree of sense.

It's Crystal Silver with a black roof, the Chili pack (which includes xenons on an S) and various other optional gubbins.

Way to go mum! Granny cool!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should look like this with these wheels - only difference is that her one will have a black roof:


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I do love a car sporting eyeliner.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent choice.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She had the choice of white, black, midnight grey or silver.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She will love it. Good choice.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice. I'm sure the S will be the right choice - I'm not sold that you need sub 7 second 0-60 on everything, but 12 is very slow and midrange will presumably be much better.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good.

I've been eyeing up the new models as a potential replacement for Mrs. GBB's current Cooper D in 18 months time. She can upsize and I can downsize.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My aunt had one of these for three months until she realised she couldn't live with the ride. She had had back surgery a few years earlier and it aggravated the conditions significantly. It got swapped for a Mazda Cx-5.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the things your mum liked about the Countryman were the same ones my mum liked. She's had hers 4 years and just paid the final balloon payment as she wants to keep it - unheard of for her. It's a 1.6 petrol auto in Blue with Chilli pack, as you say no great ball of fire but the auto box is good and if you use the kickdown it'll overtake without problems. She can get child seats in easily though I'm not sure what pranks she plays in it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad she liked it and a good choice to go for the S.
Having sat in a Countryman they are surprisingly roomy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael wrote:
My aunt had one of these for three months until she realised she couldn't live with the ride. She had had back surgery a few years earlier and it aggravated the conditions significantly. It got swapped for a Mazda Cx-5.


Mercifully the one we test drove was on 18" alloys so she got a good sense of the ride and didn't say anything - that's perhaps because her A3 is a Sport, so quite firmly suspended itself. In fact one of her likes was that she found the sports seats extremely comfortable - better than her A3.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's good. I can't remember which wheels my aunts had (I think I only saw the car once) but they must have been massive as she'd previously had regular Mini Coopers.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All the things your mum liked about the Countryman were the same ones my mum liked. She's had hers 4 years and just paid the final balloon payment as she wants to keep it - unheard of for her. It's a 1.6 petrol auto in Blue with Chilli pack, as you say no great ball of fire but the auto box is good and if you use the kickdown it'll overtake without problems. She can get child seats in easily though I'm not sure what pranks she plays in it.


As I say, we would have gone for the standard Cooper auto but they didn't have any left. We thought about an approved used one but the maths didn't stack up vs the discounted new S.

Likewise, we considered going for the new model, but they are sodding expensive and there are zero discounts available. For the same price, the new model would have been a standard Cooper Countryman without the auto 'box, 4wd or Chilli pack.

Whoops...typo...or more likely autocorrect on iPhone! She may play pranks, but I was thinking more of prams...
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Nice. I'm sure the S will be the right choice - I'm not sold that you need sub 7 second 0-60 on everything, but 12 is very slow and midrange will presumably be much better.


I think 0-62 on a Cooper S All4 auto is 8.1 sec. That's performance roughly on par with my Z1... So it's usefully brisk rather than actually rapid.
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Michael wrote:
That's good. I can't remember which wheels my aunts had (I think I only saw the car once) but they must have been massive as she'd previously had regular Mini Coopers.


We obviously didn't have a choice but I like these Minilite-style ones and at least they aren't black, which is quite common these days and would look too boy-racerish against silver paintwork.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friends in the village have a Cooper D. Not sure if it an S or not. It is smart though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice.

Good plan on the raised seating height for a septuagenarian; that's why my Ma went for the DS4.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Racing Teatray wrote:
Michael wrote:
That's good. I can't remember which wheels my aunts had (I think I only saw the car once) but they must have been massive as she'd previously had regular Mini Coopers.


We obviously didn't have a choice but I like these Minilite-style ones and at least they aren't black, which is quite common these days and would look too boy-racerish against silver paintwork.


I think it looks great, but then I'm a recent convert to the Countryman and also not obsessed with silver wheels.
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Nice.

Good plan on the raised seating height for a septuagenarian; that's why my Ma went for the DS4.


...and presumably also one of the reasons why my father just changed his A7  for an SQ5.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously I think this is a good decision. The S - manual at least - is usefully brisk. And as you say, it'll be quicker than her last car. Same wheels as mine too.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Obviously I think this is a good decision. The S - manual at least - is usefully brisk. And as you say, it'll be quicker than her last car. Same wheels as mine too.


I was wondering whether you still had yours. How has it been?
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Obviously I think this is a good decision. The S - manual at least - is usefully brisk. And as you say, it'll be quicker than her last car. Same wheels as mine too.

I was wondering whether you still had yours. How has it been?

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Getting child seats and pranks in should be no problem....

I was wondering who she was pranking in the car until I saw some of the responses later in the thread !
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good choice and a bit of luck that they only had the S available.
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I do love a car sporting eyeliner.


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Top job. Very cool grandma indeed.
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I think she's pretty excited about it. It's her first properly brand new car since the last V40 she bought in 1999 (as both her Audis were Approved Used). And she's also quite a keen and speedy driver in her own way - she's only getting an auto because of a dicky knee and she still happily drives the length and breadth of the country. She's driving up to stay with her sister on Islay in the summer, which isn't bad going for a septuagenarian.
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So Mother Dearest picked up her new Countryman yesterday and so far seems thrilled with it, asides from a faint concern that it "looks a bit flash" compared to her A3 and a grumble about having to either squint at a small digital speed readout in front of you or take your eyes of the road to fathom out the big central speedo that goes around the display screen.

I was a little anxious that, being a Cooper S on 18"s, she might find the suspension a bit on the stiff side, but when I inquired about what it was like to drive, she said it was extremely comfortable. So apparently no worries on that front. Other likes so far include the elevated seating position, the available performance (it makes quite a "throaty growl" if you a bit liberal with the accelerator apparently), the way it feels very secure and "planted" on the road, the upmarket build quality (she noted the solid thunk of the doors, which is saying something coming from an A3), the xenons and having a Bluetooth system that she can actually easily use (the A3 had Audi's most basic Bluetooth system that even I found near impossible to make work). Oddly she says it feels somewhat bigger on the road than her A3, even though it is 30cms shorter.

Chiming with what has been said elsewhere, one comment she did make was about just how much bigger the new Countryman is. Apparently when she turned up, they had a new Countryman in the same colour as hers sitting in the showroom and she had a worried moment when she thought it was her new car. Apparently it is "huge" compared to the previous version and she was very relieved to learn that hers was the altogether smaller car sitting under a red presentation sheet in another corner of the showroom.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great that she's enjoying her new car.

Racing Teatray wrote:
Chiming with what has been said elsewhere, one comment she did make was about just how much bigger the new Countryman is. Apparently when she turned up, they had a new Countryman in the same colour as hers sitting in the showroom and she had a worried moment when she thought it was her new car. Apparently it is "huge" compared to the previous version....


I guess the size comes form it using the X1 chassis? But marketing wise, Mini are probably OK with it being bigger otherwise it would be too similar to the 5 door hatchback and 5/6 door Clubman in size.
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I guess the size comes form it using the X1 chassis? But marketing wise, Mini are probably OK with it being bigger otherwise it would be too similar to the 5 door hatchback and 5/6 door Clubman in size.


I did not know that. Nor until this all started, did I know that the Countryman was actually built in Austria.
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I did not know that. Nor until this all started, did I know that the Countryman was actually built in Austria.


The current (run out) one is built in Austria. I think I read that the new one may be moving to being built in Oxford (now that the Paceman, Coupe and Soft Top have been killed off).
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I did not know that. Nor until this all started, did I know that the Countryman was actually built in Austria.


The current (run out) one is built in Austria. I think I read that the new one may be moving to being built in Oxford (now that the Paceman, Coupe and Soft Top have been killed off).


The X1 and the new Countryman have been subbied out to Nedcar in The Netherlands (the old DAF people). They've also been building 3 door MINIs since 2014.
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Racing Teatray wrote:
I did not know that. Nor until this all started, did I know that the Countryman was actually built in Austria.


The current (run out) one is built in Austria. I think I read that the new one may be moving to being built in Oxford (now that the Paceman, Coupe and Soft Top have been killed off).


Hadn't realised they'd stopped making those, although they weren't exactly a common sight. He Paceman particularly seems like a question that has already been answered by the standard 3 door hatch and was probably a niche too far even for MINI.
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Hadn't realised they'd stopped making those, although they weren't exactly a common sight. He Paceman particularly seems like a question that has already been answered by the standard 3 door hatch and was probably a niche too far even for MINI.


I like the Paceman but can't help but thinking a Golf GTI is a better car in every way.
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gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
gooner wrote:

The Paceman particularly seems like a question that has already been answered by the standard 3 door hatch and was probably a niche too far even for MINI.


the Paceman: can't help but thinking having my eyes poked out with red hot knitting needles is better in every way.


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Racing Teatray wrote:
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Chiming with what has been said elsewhere, one comment she did make was about just how much bigger the new Countryman is. Apparently when she turned up, they had a new Countryman in the same colour as hers sitting in the showroom and she had a worried moment when she thought it was her new car. Apparently it is "huge" compared to the previous version and she was very relieved to learn that hers was the altogether smaller car sitting under a red presentation sheet in another corner of the showroom.


The new Mini has grown massively with gen 3, not so noticeable on the 3 door but very noticeable with the Clubman.

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