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Sapphire Blue Cayman GT4 - collection day
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:52 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

What a stunning car in a gorgeous colour. I would frankly be content with a lesser Cayman, but this must be something truly special.
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Reading this months Evo, Dario Franchitti was also pretty taken with it. So much so that after driving it during Evo COTY he tried, unsuccessfully to buy the press car from Porsche!
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are you getting on with it Dan?  I see from the mpg thread it's run in, have you been getting plenty of time behind the wheel?
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mostly all good.  

I've done 1965 miles now, official running-in ended at 3000km (circa 1865 miles).  The ride is pretty good in mixed driving, firm but not harsh, though it does find more bumps than the Cayman S, and can therefore feel slightly unsettling.  There's a bump before corner-entry to a fast 3rd gear right hander on one of my favourite driving routes and I have to take that corner slower in the GT4 than in my other steeds to avoid being discombobulated in my seat!

Economy - well, pretty good really at 24ish to date.  It will probably end up behaving similarly to the Cayman S unless I really cane it for prolonged periods of time.

Noise - fabulous.  I have to say I'm a fan of the sports exhaust.  I've done one tunnel run in it (A40 near Monmouth) and I couldn't believe how good it sounded.  However, it's impossible to start the car and drive off quietly.  The noise is loud on startup and then quietens down after about 1 minute.  This is a bit childish and annoying, I wish the car was more discreet.

Power - strong.  I've yet to take it out for a proper spirited drive on quiet roads for an extended period using the full rev range.  

Handling: turn-in is close to immediate, and you can feel the diff working on corner exit when you add power.  Grip is very strong in the dry.  Wet handling and grip is predictable and good, although I tend to drive smoothly and precisely in those conditions anyway. Steering feel is acceptably OK to very good.

Seat comfort: personally I am very pleased with how comfortable the buckets are over any distance.  All 7 passengers so far have agreed!!

Interior stuff: well the satnav isn't as good as the M3's system and the audio isn't up to much either, but that's not what makes the car.  That said, I wish they were a bit better considering the enormous cost.  The plastic 'chrome' accents around the dashboard vents are too reflective, it would be better if they were a matt finish.  The leather/alcanatara certainly lifts the interior and the quality is very good.

Exterior stuff: the headlights are excellent and I like the quality and finish of the details on the front and rear bumpers and spoilers etc.  The car has a few small stonechips already but it's there to be used and enjoyed.  I didn't pay for any film or serum protection.

The one downside: the car is so low to the ground at the front that it doesn't go into my garage.  My driveway is on a downslope and then there's a small upslope into the opening of my garage.  This resultant V shape causes the front splitter to ground out.  I will need someone to fix the driveway or I will need to move house.  In the meantime, the car either lives on the drive or is kept somewhere else.

Those of you coming to Prescott will probably see it then!
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds great, pleased you're enjoying it and it living up to expectations.  Will you be able to / want to use it a bit more now the weather is better?
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using it in all weathers anyway, but yes!  More opportunity to lean on the car when it's dry and reasonably warm.  Kills Bugs Fast, as Porsche's memorable slogan rightly has it
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm very much looking forward to seeing it at Prescott and really hope there is time for a passenger ride too. I'd better bring some decent wine...!
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking forward to seeing, and hearing, it too. I'm glad it's in the hands of someone like you who appreciates it for the driving experience on offer not the pride of place it can take in a car collection.
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuntman wrote:
Mostly all good.  

I've done 1965 miles now, official running-in ended at 3000km (circa 1865 miles).  The ride is pretty good in mixed driving, firm but not harsh, though it does find more bumps than the Cayman S, and can therefore feel slightly unsettling.  There's a bump before corner-entry to a fast 3rd gear right hander on one of my favourite driving routes and I have to take that corner slower in the GT4 than in my other steeds to avoid being discombobulated in my seat!

Economy - well, pretty good really at 24ish to date.  It will probably end up behaving similarly to the Cayman S unless I really cane it for prolonged periods of time.

Noise - fabulous.  I have to say I'm a fan of the sports exhaust.  I've done one tunnel run in it (A40 near Monmouth) and I couldn't believe how good it sounded.  However, it's impossible to start the car and drive off quietly.  The noise is loud on startup and then quietens down after about 1 minute.  This is a bit childish and annoying, I wish the car was more discreet.

Power - strong.  I've yet to take it out for a proper spirited drive on quiet roads for an extended period using the full rev range.  

Handling: turn-in is close to immediate, and you can feel the diff working on corner exit when you add power.  Grip is very strong in the dry.  Wet handling and grip is predictable and good, although I tend to drive smoothly and precisely in those conditions anyway. Steering feel is acceptably OK to very good.

Seat comfort: personally I am very pleased with how comfortable the buckets are over any distance.  All 7 passengers so far have agreed!!

Interior stuff: well the satnav isn't as good as the M3's system and the audio isn't up to much either, but that's not what makes the car.  That said, I wish they were a bit better considering the enormous cost.  The plastic 'chrome' accents around the dashboard vents are too reflective, it would be better if they were a matt finish.  The leather/alcanatara certainly lifts the interior and the quality is very good.

Exterior stuff: the headlights are excellent and I like the quality and finish of the details on the front and rear bumpers and spoilers etc.  The car has a few small stonechips already but it's there to be used and enjoyed.  I didn't pay for any film or serum protection.

The one downside: the car is so low to the ground at the front that it doesn't go into my garage.  My driveway is on a downslope and then there's a small upslope into the opening of my garage.  This resultant V shape causes the front splitter to ground out.  I will need someone to fix the driveway or I will need to move house.  In the meantime, the car either lives on the drive or is kept somewhere else.

Those of you coming to Prescott will probably see it then!


1950 miles on mine now.
Seats are interesting,did a six hour stint and got out with no backache,also made me realize I have my adjustable seats a bit too reclined .

It's not a great long distance car ,road noise is too intrusive,it's also crap in traffic as the clutch is too heavy for such stuff.

Amazing fun on a good road though,genuinely difficult to think of many cars that can match it for entertainment.

It has a feel good factor that only a gt3 matches in the Porsche range.

could do with a smidge more power or better gear ratios as it does slightly lack straight line oomph.
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with you on the road noise, although it's not absolutely terrible.  Longest continuous journey I've done in the GT4 was about 140 miles.  Yes, clutch a bit heavier than the cooking cars but again, not ridiculous.

Funnily enough I think the car is quick in a straight line at low to medium revs, but the couple of times I've taken it above 5000 so far it has seemed just a touch flat.  Certainly didn't build speed as quickly as i was expecting.  More research needed, probably this evening!  
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuntman wrote:
Agree with you on the road noise, although it's not absolutely terrible.  Longest continuous journey I've done in the GT4 was about 140 miles.  Yes, clutch a bit heavier than the cooking cars but again, not ridiculous.

Funnily enough I think the car is quick in a straight line at low to medium revs, but the couple of times I've taken it above 5000 so far it has seemed just a touch flat.  Certainly didn't build speed as quickly as i was expecting.  More research needed, probably this evening!  


Franki's perception of straight line speed may suffer from the Aston he had before!
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Stuntman wrote:
Agree with you on the road noise, although it's not absolutely terrible.  Longest continuous journey I've done in the GT4 was about 140 miles.  Yes, clutch a bit heavier than the cooking cars but again, not ridiculous.

Funnily enough I think the car is quick in a straight line at low to medium revs, but the couple of times I've taken it above 5000 so far it has seemed just a touch flat.  Certainly didn't build speed as quickly as i was expecting.  More research needed, probably this evening!  


Franki's perception of straight line speed may suffer from the Aston he had before!


Yep,look at the performance figures and there doesn't seem much in it,but the difference is huge.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 70 mile research today suggests that the car accelerates pretty strongly with 6000-7000 revs showing, and the sound changes again too
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuntman wrote:
My 70 mile research today suggests that the car accelerates pretty strongly with 6000-7000 revs showing, and the sound changes again too


Good man!
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having had a passenger ride yesterday, I can certainly vouch for how good the car sounds from inside. The engine and transmission noise are seriously addictive. From outside, it's even better - following Dan at a sedate pace there are pops and growls and the auto blip on down changes sounds very naughty!

On the road the ride is firm but the damping is excellent, giving a feeling of tight body control with a very forgiving ride. Even from the passenger seat I could get a sense of the front end biting into corners at the relatively mild speeds we were doing.

The carbon buckets are great - very comfy, very grippy - athough I felt a slight lack of lumbar support but I do sit with my arse right back in the seat so maybe with time it's something I'd be able to adapt to.

The interior is very nice with the leather and alcantara.

It drew a fair amount of attention in the car park. I'm not sure how I'd like that, having never owned anything that attention-grabbing.

Fab car.  Definitely something very special.
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That wasn't you today near the fossbridge dip Dan?
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I don't think so - I was driving to Reading in the M3 to meet some recruitment consultants.  I drove the GT4 later on but not until about 6pm and nowhere near there.

I finally saw another GT4 on the road last week.  This one was Agate Grey, going North up the M5 motorway between Taunton & Bridgwater whilst I was going the other way in the BMW.  I thought of you when I saw it, as I know it was a colour you nearly chose.

Still enjoying life with it?  I haven't driven mine much since Prescott but will probably put some decent miles on it again in mid July.  2300 miles on mine.  It just feels 'sharp' compared to my other two.
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Stuntman wrote:
I don't think so - I was driving to Reading in the M3 to meet some recruitment consultants.  I drove the GT4 later on but not until about 6pm and nowhere near there.

I finally saw another GT4 on the road last week.  This one was Agate Grey, going North up the M5 motorway between Taunton & Bridgwater whilst I was going the other way in the BMW.  I thought of you when I saw it, as I know it was a colour you nearly chose.

Still enjoying life with it?  I haven't driven mine much since Prescott but will probably put some decent miles on it again in mid July.  2300 miles on mine.  It just feels 'sharp' compared to my other two.


Mine is in storage with 2200 miles on it ,we moved to a rental property down in south cerney,so with limited parking and another move in a few weeks along with a holiday Inbetween moves I couldn't bring the gt4 with,it's up in Manchester.
The day I dropped it off I drive back home and see an identical spec one ,sapphire with black wheels driving just near my then house,and I saw a sapphire one with silver wheels on fosse way hence the question.
Apart from that one white one is all I have seen.
The plan was to bring it down when we move to our proper house in August,but I am missing driving it on these roads,so I may be it when I return from holiday.
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With the decision made to sell(although if no gt3 god knows what will replace it) I decided to drive it a bit more despite the atrocious roads and weather.
Now I have no idea why but its got 4000 miles on and feels like somehow in the last 500 miles it has developed another 50 bhp.

Either the engine has loosened up,or I recall Mr motorsport talking about how the large vents given the right atmospheric conditions can take it easily over 400bhp....maybe the freezing cold air ? whatever it is it is y quicker than it has been.
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Interesting.  Haven't been in mine for a couple of weeks now (3200 miles).  I look forward to the further performance...

Have fun with it until it finally goes.
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Interesting.  Haven't been in mine for a couple of weeks now (3200 miles).  I look forward to the further performance...

Have fun with it until it finally goes.



It's probably my imagination,so don't get your hopes up.
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Interesting.  Haven't been in mine for a couple of weeks now (3200 miles).  I look forward to the further performance...

Have fun with it until it finally goes.


Get out in the really cold weather and see!

Franki, how are prices on the GT4 now? Softened a bit or still rising?
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Either the engine has loosened up,or I recall Mr motorsport talking about how the large vents given the right atmospheric conditions can take it easily over 400bhp....maybe the freezing cold air ? whatever it is it is y quicker than it has been.


... or maybe Porsche have written the engine management siftware to restrict power output for ths first 3500 miles or thereabouts, and gradually liberate a few more horses as the miles are added.  I know that in "olden days", turbo boost valve springs on some cars were changed at the "running in" service as in ex-works state, power was restricted by this means
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Roadsterstu wrote:
Stuntman wrote:
Interesting.  Haven't been in mine for a couple of weeks now (3200 miles).  I look forward to the further performance...

Have fun with it until it finally goes.


Get out in the really cold weather and see!

Franki, how are prices on the GT4 now? Softened a bit or still rising?


Still Getting premiums but not as strong.
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franki68 wrote:
Roadsterstu wrote:
Stuntman wrote:
Interesting.  Haven't been in mine for a couple of weeks now (3200 miles).  I look forward to the further performance...

Have fun with it until it finally goes.


Get out in the really cold weather and see!

Franki, how are prices on the GT4 now? Softened a bit or still rising?


Still Getting premiums but not as strong.


So a good idea for anyone thinking of buying one to do it now, for as soon as you sell yours Franki values will rocket!
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PhilD wrote:
franki68 wrote:
Roadsterstu wrote:
Stuntman wrote:
Interesting.  Haven't been in mine for a couple of weeks now (3200 miles).  I look forward to the further performance...

Have fun with it until it finally goes.


Get out in the really cold weather and see!

Franki, how are prices on the GT4 now? Softened a bit or still rising?


Still Getting premiums but not as strong.


So a good idea for anyone thinking of buying one to do it now, for as soon as you sell yours Franki values will rocket!


correct.I am guaranteed to sell at  the wrong time.

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