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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject: The Motor F1 Game - Rules  Reply with quote

This thread is for the rules only - I will start a separate thread for each race for you to post your guesses.

The object of the game is to predict the top eight finishers in the race, the drivers who get pole position and the fastest race lap, and to answer a bonus question which will be unique for each race.

Points are awarded as follows:

3 for each correct finishing position

1 for each finishing position out by one place, e.g. if you guess a driver in third place and he finishes second or fourth. This includes guessing a driver eighth who finishes ninth.

1 for correct fastest lap

1 for correct pole position

1 for correct bonus question (there is no "nearest guess" - if nobody gets it right, no bonus points are awarded)

Deadline for entries is 2359 GMT the Friday before each race.

If the race result is changed (by protest or disqualification), the points will be recalculated accordingly.

Pole position is taken as the driver who starts the race on pole. A driver who sets the fastest lap in Q3, but is then demoted because of engine change or other penalty will not count.

If the driver who sets the fastest race lap is subsequently disqualified, the next fastest driver will count.

If a driver misses the race following an accident in qualifying, your guess will be taken as his replacment, where applicable.

All data relating to number of laps completed, classified finishers, pit stop and lap times will be taken from formula1.com

If you forget to submit your entry, you will be awarded a "deemed" entry: this will be equal to the lowest scoring "proper" entry for that race.

Note that there will be no deemed entry for the first race, as it is only awarded for existing players who have (for whatever reason) failed to submit an entry.

If you join the game any time after the first race, you will start with the same points as the lowest scorer at that point.

[edited to reflect rule change for the deemed entry]


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair rules there, good luck to everyone else...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, will we see Sav retain his title? Or will someone more deserving nick it from him?

Just joking of course.

I shall sit out this season. I doubt I will have time to post regularly once I'm in the Navy.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, will we see Sav retain his title? Or will someone more deserving nick it from him?

Just joking of course.



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only a week and a half away, where has the last 5 months gone?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make a note; moderation is rare!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just updating the driver lineups page, at the moment.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooh, harsh rules on the deemed entry there, Nick!  It'll encourage participation for each race though, because you'll forfeit the chance of three points straight away if you go for the deemed entry.

No 'late entry' rules/deductions this year?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These people have got to learn Goddamn it!

Thanks for running the game so successfully last year Stunters, it was fun and good luck Stevie. I take it you'll be following the Dan template of the organiser being mysteriously top of the league every race (until Sav flukes it)  

A quick suggestion - how about a post in General to drum up a bit more trade - especially the new forum members who may not be aware of the game.

And can we have a recap of last years standings?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jealousy is a cruel thing Skyhook...  
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuntman wrote:
No 'late entry' rules/deductions this year?

If your entry is after the deadline, you get the deemed entry. Can't really allow entries any later as you're guessing pole position, so you have to enter before qualifying starts. As to the "harshness" of the deemed entry, I don't want it to be too comfy an option - it's a bit unfair if someone who posts before the deadline gets less points than someone who doesn't.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you edit your entry, as long as it's before the deadline?

I've just realised that I've forgotton to include either Renault in my predicted list of the top 8 - I could leave it as it is, I suppose, and hope that Alonso takes Piquet out at the first corner....
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but please make a new post rather than editing the original - makes it easier for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another quick question.  Reading the rules, it seems that you don't get a point if your driver finishes anywhere in the first eight places.  Is this true?

Example - you say Kimi will finish second but he finishes 5th.  Zero points or one point?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero - you only get a point if you guess one place out. For example, Massa finished second in Brazil last year, so you'd have got:
- three points if you had him finishing second
- one point if you had him finishing first or third
- no points if you had him anywhere else in your top eight

You DO get a point if you guess a driver in eighth and he finishes ninth.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooooh, harsher than last year!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a thought. It hasn't been done yet, but how about awarding a couple of bonus points to the first person to correctly predict the first 8 drivers in a race?
It would be a unique occurance and in that case, I think it would warrant a few extra points.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

141 days to go chaps!
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I'm excited already.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm actually going to enter!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BeN wrote:
Well, will we see Sav retain his title? Or will someone more deserving nick it from him?

Just joking of course. :grin:

I shall sit out this season. I doubt I will have time to post regularly once I'm in the Navy.

First posted March 05, 2008.  Revisited.....

...and are "our" rules staying unchanged for 2009?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're going to have less aerodynamics and KERS...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slick tyres too.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris M Wants a V-10 wrote:
BeN wrote:
Well, will we see Sav retain his title? Or will someone more deserving nick it from him?

Just joking of course.

I shall sit out this season. I doubt I will have time to post regularly once I'm in the Navy.

First posted March 05, 2008.  Revisited.....

...and are "our" rules staying unchanged for 2009?


Blimey. That's one prediction I got right...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, new rule for 2009: in order to cut costs, your guess has to last three races. If you change your guess before that time, you take a ten-point penalty ...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That'd actually be quite a cool rule.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the first race is creeping up on us; are we having the forum game again?

Nick - are you happy running it again? Same rules?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just thinking about this too.

I shall make my long awaited comeback...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, yes I'm happy to run it. Same rules. Will post a thread for first race soon.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondering about the forum F1 game, is the good doctor happy to run it again this season? Cheers.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sav wrote:
Just wondering about the forum F1 game, is the good doctor happy to run it again this season? Cheers.

He is. Don't know if we're going to let you play though.
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Presumably forum points will go down to top 10 finishers, will that be much more work?
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Sav wrote:
Just wondering about the forum F1 game, is the good doctor happy to run it again this season? Cheers.

He is. Don't know if we're going to let you play though.


Yeah - a hat-trick is quite enough, thank you!!  
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Sav wrote:
Just wondering about the forum F1 game, is the good doctor happy to run it again this season? Cheers.

He is. Don't know if we're going to let you play though.


Outrageous, anybody would have thought you were from the FIA.  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any more titles and you'll have to call yourself Savmacher.  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BeN wrote:
Any more titles and you'll have to call yourself Savmacher.  

Come now BeN, no-one has accused Sav of cheating...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SAV CHEATED!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the other ct wrote:
Presumably forum points will go down to top 10 finishers, will that be much more work?

That's a good question, therefore I'm open to views against and in favour. Would people like to guess the first ten finishers instead of the first eight, with the same rules (three points for exactly right, one point for one place out), or just stick to guessing the top eight? We don't have to change just because the F1 points system does.
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I'm open to either way, doesn't bother me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're doing the work, Nick: your call
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top 10 would be a nice change. Gives us more points to fight for...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say go for the top 10, but I'm more than happy to stick with whatever the good doc decides to do as he's doing all the work.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, top ten it is. To summarise:

1. Guess the top ten finishers. You will get three points for each correct one, and one point if you're one place out (including if your tenth guess finishes eleventh).

2. Guess the drivers who will take pole position and set fastest lap. One point for each correct guess.

3. Answer the bonus question, which will vary from race to race. One point for correct answer.

4. Only classified finishers will be eligible for points. So if only eight cars cover enough to distance to be classified, only guesses for the top eight will be counted. However, if a car retires, but near the end, and so is classified as a finisher, that will count.

5. Pole position is taken to be the driver who starts the race on pole. If someone is fastest in Q3, but then penalised, they do not count.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:


Any questions?


1. Are there overtaking lanes, like Bernie wants?
2. Can we have some kind of handicap for Sav, like in Touring Cars?
3. To spice things up how about a dice throw for the "deemed" scorers, so they score 1-6 points depending on your throw? I might actually score more if this is implemeted!

Well done for volunteering......
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a habit of noticing the thread for the upcoming race early in the preceeding week but thinking I'll wait until after practice to make my entry, then promptly forgetting on Friday. If I make an entry early in the week am I allowed to make an amended entry post practice(but prior to midnight)?

Apologies if this has been covered before.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Changing is allowed before the deadline.
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Thanks! No good for me this weekend.

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