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Chris M Wants a V-10

Surely we shoud "do" this?
Absolutely amazing. To take the remains of an F1 operation, with no engine contract, and turn it around on a very limited budget with so many "ifs and buts" hanging over every aspect of the operation, and turn it into an outfit that won its first race was outstanding enough. But to keep plugging away as your rivals caught up during the season, and take not just the Constructors Title, but the Drivers Title to.... almost defies belief.
Surely an MBE, at the very least ,becons?
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Big TC · Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject:

What the hell, get him in Number 10 running the country! Can't do worse than the one-eyed fucker in there at present, can he?
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SambaFi · Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject:

I am generallynot a fan of F1 but congratulations are due to Brawn, Button et al.

JohnC · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:39 am Post subject:

I agree that real recognition should be given to a man who has succeeded at the highest levels in the sport for years.

I hope they can continue their success next year although with the pack closing in I am not so sure. However smaller budgets should at least give most teams a chance of success and survival at the same time.
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Twelfth Monkey · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:03 am Post subject:

Agree with the gist, but let's not forget that the car bequeathed by Honda's hard work up to the point of changing hands was clearly very good indeed.

Clealy both titles are fantastic achievements, but it wasn't a startup team.
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Humphrey The Pug · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:42 am Post subject:

Nice Guy Eddie · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:22 am Post subject:

Its a shame that Honda haven't been able to take some credit for this. The way they transfered ownership of the team to the new entity has to be applauded. They gave Brawn enough time to find the funds and kept bankrolling the team to ensure that everyone kept their jobs and that R&D could still be continued.

Ross Brawn did very well keeping a winning formula going. I wouldn't suggest that he should be knighted as there are others in motorsport like Ron Dennis who probably deserve it more. Lets see how Brawn do next year before we all getcarried away. They did amazingly this year but only long term success will prove them to be a Mclaren or Ferrari.
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Scouse · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:35 am Post subject:

JohnC · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:24 am Post subject:

At the beginning of the season, just after the rear splitter issue, Ross Brawn said that he had told all the teams and the FIA that he thought there was a potential for different interpretation in the way the rules were written, well before the season had started. He was basically told that no-one else thought it was a problem, so it was ignored.

I bet the others wish they had listened.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:37 am Post subject:

I think Honda's greatest contribution was to leave, taking their underpowered and unreliable engine with them, and let the experts get on the with the job.

Humphrey The Pug · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:43 am Post subject:

Humphrey The Pug · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:54 am Post subject:

Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject:

Exactly - the very worst possible corporate culture for something like F1, where you need to be on the ball from race to race. And they forced out Dave Richards as well, after he'd rescued the team from its disastrous Pollock/Villeneuve incarnation.

Scouse · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:16 pm Post subject:

I don't think it was a case of forced Dave Richards out, more their own corporate arrogance led them to believe they could do a better job and didn't renew his and Prodrive's contract.
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Humphrey The Pug · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject:

Wasn't Mike Gascoigne forced out of Toyota as even though he can get things done they didn't like his no nonsence lets get it sorted attitude?
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TimR · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject:

We'll find out more about Mike Gascoyne's abilities soon as he's with Lotus.

Well done to everyone at Brawn.

the other ct · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:55 pm Post subject: