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Pkh72 · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: Mountune ST v RS

In the new issue of Evo (134) they have run both their Mountune equipped Focus ST and RS together to compare performance figures and whilst i've not read the article yet the figures certainly make interesting viewing.

ST RS
0-30 2.6 2.7
0-40 3.6 3.7
0-50 4.6 4.8
0-60 5.8 6.0
0-70 7.5 7.9
0-80 9.3 9.7
0-90 11.7 12.1
0-100 14.3 14.4
0-110 17.5 17.8
0-120 21.8 22.3
0-130 27.0 27.4

1/4 Mile
Sec 14.5 14.7
Mph 100.5 100.8

Top Speed
Mph 148.5 149.9

This Mountune kit keeps trying to tug at my purse strings, there are a multitude of reasons why i can't go for it but i'm getting more and more tempted the more i read about it.
I understand the 256bhp(?) you get is the gauranteed minimum but to run with the RS like that it's got to be putting out more than that surely.
Evo's ST has done 7961 miles and the RS 6476 so it's not down to the RSs lump being tight.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Martin · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject:

All the straight line performance, but you get to keep the standard cars looks and save a shed load of cash. Makes a lot of sense!!

The RS is surprisingly poor when it comes to straight line pace.
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"him" · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject:

Sounds like a no-brainer doesn't it? An ST with a Quaife LSD and a Mountune kit would appear to be just as fast (in a straight line at least) and infinitely more stealthy than the brash RS.

What are your "multitude of reasons", just so we can convince you they aren't really important...

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Pkh72 · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject:

"him" · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject:

Now that is more like it...
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Guitar Zero · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:05 pm Post subject:

I told you lot the Mountune goes like a fucker.
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simonp · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject:

I think it's more a case that the RS can't put all its power down efficiently and that 260 or thereabouts is the absolute top limit for FWD. The TT RS only has 10% more power than the Ford RS but it's a hell of a lot faster off the line and proves to my mind that Ford were wrong to eschew 4WD for a 300bhp car. What they've achieved is impressive but flawed.

Does the Mountune remap remove the low gear torque reduction?

Apex clipper · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject:

*Yawns*
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"him" · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject:

Are we keeping you up?

Kick off those Moonboots and get some sleep...

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Apex clipper · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:03 am Post subject:

Apex clipper · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:46 am Post subject:

Apex clipper · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Mountune ST v RS

simonp · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:31 am Post subject:

simonp · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:36 am Post subject:

Talking of the RS, I still haven't seen one on the road yet.

There was a green one at the local dealers a while back that was up for £28K and it suddenly went down to £26K before being sold. I later found out that this price drop was because someone stuffed it into a kerb on a test drive and mangled the wheel and suspension arm!

Turbonutter · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:09 pm Post subject:

simonp · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject:

I'm only about 20 minutes away from CC. I should try and get down there more often!

I went to the RS owners day in around 2000 and have pics of a Sierra Sapphire RS being pulled out of the tyre wall after the driver lost it big time!

Turbonutter · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:44 pm Post subject:

Turbonutter · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject:

simonp · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject:

Turbonutter · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject:

simonp · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject:

Looking at the plan I'd say Old Paddock too. Maybe the wobbler started at the Esses, though?

Turbonutter · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject:

Pkh72 · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: Mountune ST v RS

Turbonutter · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Mountune ST v RS

Clunes · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:58 pm Post subject:

Especially as the article states the Mountune St is not only faster upto 140 than the RS but also faster through the gears just about everywhere (100-120 in fifth apart)

There is also a question in the same mag as to how the original RS can post similar figures to the new RS with a significant power disadvantage (even taking weight into account). The answer basically points to traction issues an the 'healthy' horses of the original.

TimR · Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject:

Traction may be an issue up to, say, 60 but from then on it shouldn't matter which makes the Mountune performance even better.

simonp · Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:34 am Post subject:

I see for an extra 500 quid Mountune now do a zorst to go with the kit so it'll sound as good as it goes.

GonnaBreakABuggy · Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:20 pm Post subject:

simonp · Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject:

Well perhaps the RS only makes 255bhp then?

Turbonutter · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:15 am Post subject:

Got the Megane 250 up against the RS in Autocar next week.

From what Sutcliffe hints at this week the 250 Cup version is at least as quick as the old R26R.
Hopefully for Renault it will sell better as well