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Big TC Supercharged
 My Car: Seat Toledo 20V SE, Citroen C1 Diesel
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5759
Location: Stuck in my ways
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: What should I do? |
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The MoT is up on my car the week before Christmas. It will fail, of that I have no doubt. I expect the bill to get it through would be several hundreds of pounds - maybe as much as 600 or 700. The whole car is worth not much more than that.
So my dilema is this:
1) Spend the cash to get the Toledo past it's MoT and keep it till I know what's happening with my driving instructing career.
2) Scrap the Toledo, and spend an equivalent amount on a replacement (which may well turn out to be a money-pit...)
3) Trade it in for a Fiat or Citroen (or similar) and get the scrappage alowance (although the rules for this mean I would have to do the deal the day before the MoT runs out....). The new car could then be used as a driving school car next year (Panda, C3 Picasso, or the like...)
What do you all recommend? _________________
It's a '57 Pontiac Star Chief, dontchaknow. |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
 My Car: pending
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 12120
Location: Europa
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds like a good candidate for the scrappage scheme to me. And the forum can have fun choosing your new car ... |
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BeN The Motor, Singapore branch.
 My Car: Toyota Corolla View My Motor: .
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 9011
Location: Singapore
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Give the car to me.  _________________ On the other side of the world - Hurlecot de Millou
Not the same since 2008
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Bryan M Running In
My Car: Audi A3 TDI S Line and BMW E30 318i Convertible
Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 417
Location: Nottingham
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Chuck it in for a free pre test - it may surprise you and pass.
Failing that go for the scrappage option and pick something different to what we all recommend!!!!! |
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gonnabuildabuggy Turbocharged
 My Car: E36 328 & '90 Golf GTI for a while
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 4669
Location: Nr. Milton Keynes, Roundabout City
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Put it through a pre MOT now to see what it will cost.
I did this with the Golf, paid £50 for an MOT type inspection so that I could fix whatever was necessary in the 4 weeks before the official test was due.
You might be suprised on how well your car does, an MOT is purely an assessment of roadworthiness. _________________ Aint no substitute for cubic inches. |
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the other ct Motoring On
 My Car: E34 525i sport
Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 579
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Bryan M wrote: | | Chuck it in for a free pre test - it may surprise you and pass. |
+1
I was convinced mine would need £££s of work doing but only had one advisory. Maybe do it at the end of Nov so you still have a chance to do 1,2 or 3 before MOT runs out and well before xmas. _________________ "I’m not gonna wear a ladies’ wetsuit I’m a man! ...Get me a small man’s wetsuit, please." |
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the other ct Motoring On
 My Car: E34 525i sport
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Or maybe find out how much you'd get for scrapping it then sick it on ebay (now) with that as the starting price.
Just be as honest as possible so you don't get a numpty messing you about when they turn up to collect. _________________ "I’m not gonna wear a ladies’ wetsuit I’m a man! ...Get me a small man’s wetsuit, please." |
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Jasper Turbocharged
 My Car: Is sitting just right.
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 2591
Location: Beyond the naughty step.
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if you are aware of this but.......BMW are doing 116i's for much cheapness with the scrappage deal.
I bet that's got you thinking? _________________
| franki68 wrote: | | If I wasn't married already I would marry the r8. |
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Big TC Supercharged
 My Car: Seat Toledo 20V SE, Citroen C1 Diesel
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5759
Location: Stuck in my ways
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Jasper wrote: | I'm not sure if you are aware of this but.......BMW are doing 116i's for much cheapness with the scrappage deal.
I bet that's got you thinking? |
...about what? _________________
It's a '57 Pontiac Star Chief, dontchaknow. |
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Boxer6 Turbocharged
 My Car: Subaru Legacy 3.0R Spec B Sports Tourer (Auto)
Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 3282
Location: What's it called?
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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I think I'd be tempted towards the scrappage choice in those circumstances, though the pre-MOT check sounds like a good idea too... if there's somewhere near enough to make it worthwhile. _________________ Just keepin' on keeping on. |
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Boxer6 Turbocharged
 My Car: Subaru Legacy 3.0R Spec B Sports Tourer (Auto)
Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 3282
Location: What's it called?
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Big TC wrote: |
...about what? |
Did someone say something?!?!  _________________ Just keepin' on keeping on. |
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Blarno Motorhead
 My Car: A homo's devil machine with Git Plate. Franc soon to be departed.
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 8433
Location: The corporate whore juggernaut
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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BANGERNOMICS!
Bang another 5-600 quid on a runaround with a year's tax and ticket. _________________ Arms held out, in the Jesus Christ Pose. |
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Stuntman Supercharged
My Car: M3 Saloon & Cayman S
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5205
Location: Cheltenham
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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I'd vote scrappage and the Forum collective choice of replacement. _________________ Drifting through life |
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Blarno Motorhead
 My Car: A homo's devil machine with Git Plate. Franc soon to be departed.
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 8433
Location: The corporate whore juggernaut
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Sell it to me for next to nowt if it fails and I can get it working. Then I can give it to Jo for work and I can spend more on my new car! _________________ Arms held out, in the Jesus Christ Pose. |
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Frank Bullitt Turbocharged
My Car: Audi A2 View My Motor: .
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Location: The edge of civilisation
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Keep it, spend £X on it and then drive the car for a few more years with minimal cost - still cheaper than squandering £6K on a new car.
Or sell your nice 1.8 Toledo and buy a Panda 1.1 Active Eco - no, I didn't think so... _________________ Shame your mind don't shine like your possessions |
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Martin Supercharged
 My Car: BMW 520d M Sport & MINI Clubman Cooper S
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5351
Location: Swindon
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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It's a no brainer. Buy a new car!! _________________
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Matt Nuclear
 My Car: Astra Coupe 1.8 SE2
Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 12018
Location: Plymouth, UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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How much are Omegas these days? RWD fun for not a lot. I may save up for one next year. _________________
Small car, big heart. |
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gonnabuildabuggy Turbocharged
 My Car: E36 328 & '90 Golf GTI for a while
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 4669
Location: Nr. Milton Keynes, Roundabout City
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Matt wrote: | | How much are Omegas these days? RWD fun for not a lot. I may save up for one next year. |
From next to nothing to a few grand for a nice MV6.
I'd preMOT the Toledo and if it looked too expensive find something for about £1K that had a good few years in it.
What do you think it will fail on? It shouldn't need any welding should it? _________________ Aint no substitute for cubic inches. |
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Blarno Motorhead
 My Car: A homo's devil machine with Git Plate. Franc soon to be departed.
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 8433
Location: The corporate whore juggernaut
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Omega? Hmmm.
Maybe I won't get a Primera GT.... _________________ Arms held out, in the Jesus Christ Pose. |
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gonnabuildabuggy Turbocharged
 My Car: E36 328 & '90 Golf GTI for a while
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 4669
Location: Nr. Milton Keynes, Roundabout City
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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There's a semi stripped Omega MV6 on sale on Pistonheads or Ebay last week....... _________________ Aint no substitute for cubic inches. |
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Blarno Motorhead
 My Car: A homo's devil machine with Git Plate. Franc soon to be departed.
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 8433
Location: The corporate whore juggernaut
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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If I'm going to go for an Omega, I may as well get one with some kit! _________________ Arms held out, in the Jesus Christ Pose. |
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Big TC Supercharged
 My Car: Seat Toledo 20V SE, Citroen C1 Diesel
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5759
Location: Stuck in my ways
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| gonnabuildabuggy wrote: | | What do you think it will fail on? It shouldn't need any welding should it? |
No, it won't need any welding, but.....
Front pads and discs (probably); it has an exhaust blow; I'm sure there is a rear o/s suspension issue - bumps mid-bend to the left require a quick wind-off of steering lock - not quite oppo - possibly damper or drop-link; an abs sensor is not working, meaning the abs warning light is always on (brakes work fine apart from a bit of a judder on the front suggesting discs.)
The car cost me £810 last December with a year's (dodgy) ticket. I've replaced the rear discs and pads, and put two tyres on it. To date, I've done 18,000 miles in 10 months.
Trouble is, I like the car, but there are other issues with it that I'd like to get fixed - the fag lighter doesn't work so I can't use SatNav plugged into it, nor re-charge my mobile on it; the electric mirror adjustment button is u/s; the heater fan is u/s - gonna be a problem with the windscreen misting in the winter; the elctric window switches don't work to close the windows, apart freom the driver's side.
I like the 6-disc autochanger, the obc, the big boot and the good compromise between performance and economy. Oh, and it's a nice colour, being dark metallic blue (its not fucking silver) _________________
It's a '57 Pontiac Star Chief, dontchaknow. |
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Matt Nuclear
 My Car: Astra Coupe 1.8 SE2
Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 12018
Location: Plymouth, UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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Trouble is, the facelift cars had some pretty nasty 'wood' and I'm not sure what engines came with the base spec that included matte silver plastic on the console. _________________
Small car, big heart. |
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Blarno Motorhead
 My Car: A homo's devil machine with Git Plate. Franc soon to be departed.
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 8433
Location: The corporate whore juggernaut
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Judging by what you think it'll fail on, I'd say you're looking at 200 quid, tops to get it through.
Droplinks are about 15 quid a pop, ABS sensors are Bosch jobs and probably the same as the ones I had on Graham (Which cost me nothing). Discs and pads?
www.buypartsby.co.uk.
Simples! _________________ Arms held out, in the Jesus Christ Pose. |
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Bob Sacramento Petrolhead
 My Car: Lexus IS250 SE Auto & FIAT 500 1.2 Lounge
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 1880
Location: Newcastle
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| Blarno wrote: | | If I'm going to go for an Omega, I may as well get one with some kit! |
Mate of mine opted out of the company car scheme and managed to secure a mint 5 year old top spec Omega that had been used by the company chauffeur and had been serviced regularly. Chuffed to bits he was.
A year later, after a catalogue of expensive faults and failures he ditched it for pennies vowing never to go near one of the big barges again. _________________ Keep Calm & Carry On. |
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gonnabuildabuggy Turbocharged
 My Car: E36 328 & '90 Golf GTI for a while
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 4669
Location: Nr. Milton Keynes, Roundabout City
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| Bob Sacramento wrote: | | Blarno wrote: | | If I'm going to go for an Omega, I may as well get one with some kit! |
Mate of mine opted out of the company car scheme and managed to secure a mint 5 year old top spec Omega that had been used by the company chauffeur and had been serviced regularly. Chuffed to bits he was.
A year later, after a catalogue of expensive faults and failures he ditched it for pennies vowing never to go near one of the big barges again. |
Most seem to be generally reliable but you did hear of a few problem ones.
What were the "expensive failures"? I'm guessing Electrical frippery? _________________ Aint no substitute for cubic inches. |
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DradusContact Turbocharged
 My Car: MG ZS 180
Joined: 19 Feb 2008 Posts: 4663
Location: North-West
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:08 am Post subject: |
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If you wanted something like an Omega, how about a Scorpio Cosworth? _________________
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Blarno Motorhead
 My Car: A homo's devil machine with Git Plate. Franc soon to be departed.
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 8433
Location: The corporate whore juggernaut
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Rare as rocking horse shit and rusty by now. _________________ Arms held out, in the Jesus Christ Pose. |
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DradusContact Turbocharged
 My Car: MG ZS 180
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Location: North-West
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Blarno Motorhead
 My Car: A homo's devil machine with Git Plate. Franc soon to be departed.
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Location: The corporate whore juggernaut
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Walk away and keep walking....
Automatic as well. _________________ Arms held out, in the Jesus Christ Pose. |
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DradusContact Turbocharged
 My Car: MG ZS 180
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: |
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They were RWD wernt they? _________________
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Blarno Motorhead
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Yep, some early ones were 4wd. _________________ Arms held out, in the Jesus Christ Pose. |
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DradusContact Turbocharged
 My Car: MG ZS 180
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Blarno Motorhead
 My Car: A homo's devil machine with Git Plate. Franc soon to be departed.
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: |
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@ the price!
That, slammed on black 18s, with a PA system in the back, would make a quality mobile rock gig.
I can just see my band logo on the bonnet... _________________ Arms held out, in the Jesus Christ Pose. |
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Roadsterstu Petrolhead
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:14 am Post subject: |
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The price of that nearly killed me...
(here we go) |
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"him" Turbocharged
 My Car: is 'wikkid innit' & '04 Scenic Dynamique
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:16 am Post subject: |
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...all this punnery is hearsery! _________________ Remember - A gym without chalk is a heath spa... |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
 My Car: pending
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| It would be a grave mistake coffin up that much money for it. Is the vendor in Bury? |
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Matt Nuclear
 My Car: Astra Coupe 1.8 SE2
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it wouldn't just be the staff who had to dig deep. _________________
Small car, big heart. |
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Gooner Turbocharged
 My Car: Focus Sportback
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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With only a 2.3 engine in something that big, I imagine it'll be dead slow. _________________
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Blarno Motorhead
 My Car: A homo's devil machine with Git Plate. Franc soon to be departed.
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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And they're prone to head casket failure. _________________ Arms held out, in the Jesus Christ Pose. |
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