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Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject: F1 Game - Singapore

Completely different circuit to Spa and Monza, so the last two races will be no good whatsoever as a form guide. Not that any previous race is this season. Therefore, just think of eight random drivers who might take the points in the race, and also two more random ones to take pole and fastest lap. And the (tediously obvious) bonus question: on what lap will the first safety car be deployed? Race is 61 laps in total.

Deadline for entries: Friday 25 September 2359 GMT
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BeN · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:08 am Post subject:

Can't believe there's been no posts until now.

First practice is underway, in the daylight. Bit odd to see them go along the roads I travel on ever so often.

Renault are running without their ING sponsorship too.

My predictions to come after second practice later tonight.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:26 am Post subject:

Better do one now

1 Button
2 Hamilton
3 Raikkonen
4 Barrichello
5 Alonso
6 Webber
7 Rosberg
8 Trulli

Pole: Hamilton
Lap: Raikkonen
Bonus: first lap

BeN · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:41 am Post subject:

Grosjean lost it at the same spot Piquet crashed last year.

Ooh wee...
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BeN · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:34 pm Post subject:

Rubens and Jenson top first practice. Alonso in fourth splits the Red Bulls, then the McLarens.

Looking good for Brawn, RBR and McLaren.
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TimR · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:44 pm Post subject:

Pole: Vettel
F/Lap: Hamilton
Bonus: Lap 2

1 Button
2 Vettel
3 Hamilton
4 Barrichello
5 Alonso
6 Webber
7 Heikki
8 Rosberg

Pole: Hamilton
Lap: Raikkonen
Bonus: first lap[/quote]

Eff One · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:17 pm Post subject:

TimR · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject:

I bet Renault will be a bit tense if a safety car helps them in anyway during the race.

Humphrey The Pug · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject:

Pole: Barrichello
F/L: Raikkonnen

1. Button
2. Raikkonnen
3. Alonso
4. Barrichello
5. Webber
6. Hamilton
7. Rosberg
8. Fisichella

Bonus, it wont
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BeN · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject:

Vettel tops second practice ahead of Alonso, but Hekki and Heidfeld were impressive.

Predictions to come.
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BeN · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject:

1) Vettel
2) Button
3) Alonso
4) Hamilton
5) Barrichello
6) Kovalainen
7) Webber
8) Heidfeld

Pole: Vettel
Fastest: Button

Bonus: First lap
I was inclined to say there won't be a safety car, but given that there were two red flags already in practice, I think there will be one somehow.

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Big Blue · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject:

1 F Alonso Renault
2 H Kovalainen McLaren
3 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber
4 J Button Brawn
5 M Webber Red Bull
6 L Hamilton McLaren
7 A Sutil Force India
8 K Raikkonen Ferrari

Pole Vettel
F/L Barrichello
Lap 8
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Big TC · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject:

Pole: Vettel
F/L: Hamilton
Bonus: 1 (first lap)

1. Button
2. Hamilton
3. Barrichello
4. Webber
5. Vettel
6. Raikonnen
7. Heidfeld
8. Rosberg
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Rodge · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject:

1. Button
2. Alonso
3. Vettel
4. Barrichello
5. Raikkonen
6. Webber
7. Hamilton
8. Trulli

Pole: Vettel
FL: Alonso
Bonus: Lap 5 - just to be different.
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Chris M Wants a V-10 · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject:

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Vettel
Bonus: Lap 23
1. Hamilton
2. Barrichello
3. Button
4. Vettel
5. Alonso
6. Webber
7. Raikkonen
8. Rosberg
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Sav · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject:

1. Barrichello
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
4. Button
5. Räikkönen
6. Webber
7. Kovalainen
8. Alonso

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Barrichello
Bonus: Lap 1
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Scouse · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject:

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Button
Bonus: Lap 1
1. Button
2. Hamilton
3. Button
4. Barrichelo
5. Raikonnen
6. Webber
7. Rosberg
8. Alonso
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the other ct · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject:

Pole: Kovalainen
F/L: Hamilton
Bonus: 6

1. Button
2. Hamilton
3. Vettel
4. Raikkonen
5. Webber
6. Kovalainen
7. Alonso
8. Rosberg
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Matt · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject:

Pole: Button
FL: Raikkonen
Bonus: Lap 13

1. Raikkonen
2. Alonso
3. Button
4. Barrichello
5. Vettel
6. Hamilton
7. Rosberg
8. Fisichella
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Skyhook · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject:

And the predictions from Team Spaced...

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Webber
Bonus: 25

1st: Hamilton
2nd: Barrichello
3rd: Raikkonen
4th: Button
5th: Vettel
6th: Alonso
7th: Webber
8th: Kovalainen
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Mrs Skyhook · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:53 pm Post subject:

At the last second... (well, I have been a bit busy recently

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Pole: Button
F/L: Vettel
Bonus: 11

1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Barrichello
4. Alonso
5. Hamilton
6. Kimi
7. Rosberg
8. Kubica
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Matt · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:56 pm Post subject:

Good show Mrs. S and congratulations.
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BJH · Running In Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 83

Pole: Hamilton
F/L: Barrichello
Bonus: 23

1. Button
2. Barrichello
3. Alonso
4. Hamilton
5. Vettel
7. Kimi
8. Kovalainen

Nice Guy Eddie · Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:59 am Post subject:

Pole - Button
FL - Hamilton
Bonus - 1

1. Button
2. Hamilton
3. Barrichelo
4. Vetel
5. Alonso
6. Webber
7. Raikonnen
8. Kovalinen
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BeN · Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:45 pm Post subject:

Kimi and Jenson out in Q2. Uphill task for them now.
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BeN · Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject:

Oh dear Rubens.

Hamilton gets pole as a result, ahead of Vettel. Bummer.
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DaveGibson · Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:40 pm Post subject:

Fuel adjusted grid, for once, shows very little difference from qualifying:

1 Lewis Hamilton (lap 17)
2 Nico Rosberg +0.553secs (lap 16)
3 Sebastian Vettel +0.617 (lap 14)
4 Mark Webber +1.023 (lap 15)
5 Rubens Barrichello +1.097 (lap 16)
6 Fernando Alonso +1.243 (lap 17)
7 Timo Glock +1.289 (lap 17)
8 Robert Kubica +1.511 (lap 19)
9 Nick Heidfeld +1.752 (lap 14)
10 Heikki Kovalainen +1.759 (lap 19)

BeN · Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:43 pm Post subject:

Safety car out on lap 20.

What an accident between Sutil and Heidfeld.
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Twelfth Monkey · Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject:

Am I alone in finding the new street circuits (Singapore, Valencia) to be stupefyingly dull?
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BeN · Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject:

Rodge · Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject:

I've yet to see a decent street circuit anywhere.

They're too narrow for proper racing and there are rarely any overtaking manouvres made.

Monaco is included in that, it's all about the money, racing has nothing to do with it.
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Chris M Wants a V-10 · Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject:

Sav · Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject:

I don't see what the problem is, at least Singapore proved to be hugely demanding for drivers and cars where precision and bravery are particularly rewarded (not to say that all the other tracks do not). It isn't like their is a lot of great racing at Barcelona, Shanghai, Turkey or in Hungary.

I think however Valencia is terrible because it actually isn't a street track because only 10 % of it is held on public roads and with the high speed corners it may as well be a permanent track. Singapore is a unique track on the F1 schedule and the drivers should face a variety of different tracks.
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BeN · Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:46 pm Post subject:

It's demanding because it's hot, and also there is a lot of corners, some of which I think is quite unnecessary. I mean, that turn 10 chicane towards the Anderson Bridge, what was that about? The normal road is just one smooth flowing curve, what's wrong with that? And don't get me started on the complex area after the big grandstand going towards the pit straight.

The race is won through strategy, and not proper driving with overtaking. It is a nice visual spectacle no doubt, but not very appropriate for racing.

Singapore is planning a purpose-built track capable of hosting MotoGP races, probably ready in 2012 or 2013. I much rather have that instead of racing through our congested city centre.
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Big TC · Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:15 pm Post subject:

I have to say it looks as though Button's going to luck into the Championship, based on his last several races (notwithstanding Monza, maybe).

If he ties it up with a race to go, no doubt he'll lap the field in the final race....
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Skyhook · Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject:

BeN - did you get to see any of the action up close? Any scoop shots taken over the weekend with local knowledge for your job?

Singapore looked fantastic on screen, but I agree with your view on some of the corners/chicanes. It's rather a shame because the event could make for a wonderful spectacle - if the racing wasn't so dire!
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BeN · Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:57 am Post subject:

Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:37 pm Post subject:

Pole: Hamilton
Lap: Alonso
Bonus: 21

1 Hamilton
2 Glock
3 Alonso
4 Vettel
5 Button
6 Barrichello
7 Kovalainen
8 Kubica
9 Nakajima

Results:

7 - Chris M, Skyhook
6 - BJH
5 - BeN, Nice Guy Eddie
4 - TimR, Sav, Mrs Skyhook
3 - Humphrey, Rodge, the other ct
2 - Dr H, Big TC, Scouse, Matt
1 - Big Blue

Deemed (1 point):

Eff One, Gooner, Stuntman, Andy C, Giant

Standings:

83 - Sav
82 - Mrs Skyhook
78 - the other ct
74 - Chris M
72 - Nice Guy Eddie
69 - Big TC
65 - BJH
63 - Humphrey, Skyhook
61 - Dr H, Big Blue
60 - Rodge
58 - Eff One
57 - TimR, BeN
56 - Scouse
51 - Matt
46 - Gooner
42 - Stuntman
41 - Andy C
29 - Giant

BeN · Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:44 pm Post subject:

5 points for my home race, which I suppose is decent.

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Eff One · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:10 pm Post subject:

Great spectacle - again - but a promising start developed into a disappointing race, with Hamilton's main rivals all taking themselves out of contention. Great drive by Our Lewis though, and I enjoyed Button's swashbuckling efforts mid-race to get himself ahead of Ruby.

Could that have been Alonso's last time on the podium as a Renault driver?
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