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Twelfth Monkey Supercharged
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: Why the long face? |
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A glum- (and grim-) looking car if ever I saw one. _________________ "Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'
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Nice Guy Eddie Turbocharged
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Maybe I'm just used to butt ugly BMW's but thats not to bad.
It probably steers rather well _________________
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cbeaks1 Petrolhead
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| Looks like it has a mighty fine 'tache under its nostrils. |
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Mark Petrolhead
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Not nice at all.
And more dumbo-like mirrors - even worse than the A5/Q7. |
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DaveGibson Supercharged
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| It fascinates me how many car designers put sad 'faces' on their cars these days. Having a 'smiley' grille was always supposed to engender a positive, feel-good response from the viewer. |
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woof woof Twin-charged
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Horrible but coming to a housing estate near you shortly. _________________ woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."
Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents." |
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Blarno Motorhead
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| woof woof wrote: | | Horrible but coming to a housing estate near you shortly. |
Not the ones near me. They're full of rotten old Rover 600s and Peugeot 406s. _________________ Arms held out, in the Jesus Christ Pose. |
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Humphrey The Pug Supercharged
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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It looks just like how an estate 1 series may look. _________________ Mummy, Daddy, Sissy, Sassy Baby. |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| No, the estates it'll be coming to are ones with "executive starter homes". |
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Twelfth Monkey Supercharged
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Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 6246
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| DaveGibson wrote: | | It fascinates me how many car designers put sad 'faces' on their cars these days. Having a 'smiley' grille was always supposed to engender a positive, feel-good response from the viewer. |
Speaking of glum, I saw one of these yesterday:
Remarked to Mrs 12th that I still can't believe that at least one member of the design team didn't come to his or her senses and gouge their own eyes out.
I wonder whether some of the current crop of munters will engender similar thoughts in ten years' time? _________________ "Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'
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cbeaks1 Petrolhead
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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| That's a facelift version, which were much prettier than the originals. I loved mine - looks aside it was a great car. |
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BeN The Motor, Singapore branch.
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| DaveGibson wrote: | | It fascinates me how many car designers put sad 'faces' on their cars these days. Having a 'smiley' grille was always supposed to engender a positive, feel-good response from the viewer. |
Probably to reflect the doom and gloom of the current times? _________________ On the other side of the world - Hurlecot de Millou
Not the same since 2008
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DaveGibson Supercharged
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| BeN wrote: | | DaveGibson wrote: | | It fascinates me how many car designers put sad 'faces' on their cars these days. Having a 'smiley' grille was always supposed to engender a positive, feel-good response from the viewer. |
Probably to reflect the doom and gloom of the current times? |
I think the current crop would have been signed off during the good times. |
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Racing Twin-charged
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think the X1 is a dreadful piece of design - I'd want to hear the thought process that went into it. _________________
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boc70 Running In
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Looks like an ill-matching photofit picture. |
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Matt Nuclear
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Whereas it used to be difficult to find the turds in BMW's line-up, it's hard to find the few gems they still make these days.
Not nice at all. _________________
Small car, big heart. |
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TimR Supercharged
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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You can understand the car looking sad because it's so fucking ugly.
Still no doubt the M version - probably a mildly breathed on 2.0 Diesel - will look better with body coloured bits, etc.  |
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Giant Petrolhead
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Where have all the lovers of this design gone, when I voiced my disgust at the styling of the concept I got shot down by two or three lovers of it, have they come to thier senses, can't remember who you were! The lower vent seems to be the shape of Kia's new corporate grill. |
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Frank Bullitt Turbocharged
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:51 am Post subject: |
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It is wilfully ugly but I think this is all part of a shift from elegance to 'fuck you' design. It wasn't the first but the watershed moment was probably the Porsche Cayenne; the aim of the design is to intimmidate rather than enliven.
Give it an M-spaz kit, M-spaz badges littered all over it and Dustbin-lid wheels and it'll start to look more like the baddy robots in Short Circuit 2... _________________ Shame your mind don't shine like your possessions |
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Sav Forum F1 Champ 07, 08, 09
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Well its no worse looking than the grotesque looking Q7. _________________
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Big TC Supercharged
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Well, as some of you may know, I'm not a fan of BMW's 1-series or either model of Compact, nor the X-series. That one can go right on the list as it's just as ugly.
Course there will be people who just love it and would do anything just to be given a ride in one...(even if they can't afford to buy one) _________________
It's a '57 Pontiac Star Chief, dontchaknow. |
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Boxer6 Turbocharged
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| Big TC wrote: | Well, as some of you may know, I'm not a fan of BMW's 1-series or either model of Compact, nor the X-series. That one can go right on the list as it's just as ugly.
Course there will be people who just love it and would do anything just to be given a ride in one...(even if they can't afford to buy one) |
Really? Nope, I never would have guessed that!
 _________________ Just keepin' on keeping on. |
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woof woof Twin-charged
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Does it really matter what it looks like? It's German and it's a BMW, the British inspirational class will ache to own it. _________________ woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."
Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents." |
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BeN The Motor, Singapore branch.
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Better pics.
 _________________ On the other side of the world - Hurlecot de Millou
Not the same since 2008
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Matt Nuclear
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:41 am Post subject: |
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From that 3/4 view is its best angle. With the lights off. _________________
Small car, big heart. |
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Gurney Turbocharged
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Don't know what it is but the second shot is far more appealing. _________________ A Gentleman: Def: A male of the species who can play the Trombone.
But refrains from doing so. |
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DaveGibson Supercharged
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| Gurney wrote: | | Don't know what it is but the second shot is far more appealing. |
Better if the photographer had focused differently. |
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Twelfth Monkey Supercharged
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: |
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It'll take some serious metal to fill those wheel arches. Which will mean delving into the options list...
Horribly tippy-toe, and the second shot shows just how badly the new pedestrian regs have been integrated. The bonnet looks horribly high and long.
Given how few X3s I see (unlike the ubiquitous X5), why is BMW so keen on the soft roader sector? _________________ "Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| Twelfth Monkey wrote: | | Given how few X3s I see (unlike the ubiquitous X5), why is BMW so keen on the soft roader sector? |
Because in America and the Middle and Far East, SUVs are even more popular than in Europe. |
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Blarno Motorhead
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry Ben, but I thought you said better pics? It still looks awful.. _________________ Arms held out, in the Jesus Christ Pose. |
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Gurney Turbocharged
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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I was going to say it's a 3 series touring on stilts but that would be an insult to my (personal) favourite 3 series.
I guess they have to follow the market though and if there is the demand then they must attempt to fulfill it. _________________ A Gentleman: Def: A male of the species who can play the Trombone.
But refrains from doing so. |
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woof woof Twin-charged
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Those pictures don't show the Land Rover which is just out of shot waiting to pull the BMW out of the sand. _________________ woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."
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Big TC Supercharged
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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The second shot is ruined by a big white piece of shite, and the focus is bollocks (as has been noted) _________________
It's a '57 Pontiac Star Chief, dontchaknow. |
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BeN The Motor, Singapore branch.
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Blarno wrote: | | Sorry Ben, but I thought you said better pics? It still looks awful.. |
At least they threw in some sort of distraction...  _________________ On the other side of the world - Hurlecot de Millou
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Frank Bullitt Turbocharged
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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The models were somewhat confused to have been paid by BMW, having been under the impression they'd spent the day with the Ssangyong Rodius' little brother _________________ Shame your mind don't shine like your possessions |
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Guitar Zero Turbocharged
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:22 am Post subject: |
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It looks like the dolly bird has been photoshopped into those pictures
Now - why is that so ?
Do you think the pictures taken originally featured the gimp with the surf board and subsequent review and emotional response testing with the key market demographic ( ) resulted in an emergency re-conceptualising ?
" Blart !!, we need blart ! - I'm thinking blond, with teeny jubblets who looks like she sucks off BMW drivers " _________________ Previous convictions :
2006 Focus ST 2.5
2001 BMW 520i
2002 Focus 2.0 zetec
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Gurney Turbocharged
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Think you hit the nail on the head there Peet.
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But refrains from doing so. |
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Mark Petrolhead
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:12 am Post subject: |
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DaveGibson Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| She's positively buxom compared with a lass I used to work with. |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Interior is a step forward:
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TimR Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like it was a long day for the photoshoot as in the 1st picture the burd is much more red about the chest than the 2nd one.
Perhaps it took all day to find the 'best' angles to shoot the heap from. |
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woof woof Twin-charged
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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From underneath? _________________ woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."
Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents." |
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TimR Supercharged
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Should've waited until it was dark. |
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Matt Nuclear
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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | Interior is a step forward:
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That interior is lovely. Along with the 7-series and new Z4, these are the best BMW interiors in years. _________________
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Matt Nuclear
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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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The X1 has been usurped by Mercedes already...
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DetmoldDick Motoring On
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The white turd (you dont see many of those these days) cannot have got to that position under its own steam (steaming turd?) as there are no tracks left in the sand. _________________ A thing of beauty is a joy forever; Keats. |
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DaveGibson Supercharged
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| The tyre treads are suspiciously free of sand, too. |
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