The Motor Forum talking cars since 2006    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Join! (free) >   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Surprising football transfer          The Motor Forum Forum Index -> General View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead My Car: pending Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 12122 Location: Europa Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject: Surprising football transfer If it happens ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/footbal...l-owen-manchester-united-transfer Back to top Bob Sacramento Petrolhead My Car: Lexus IS250 SE Auto & FIAT 500 1.2 Lounge Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 1880 Location: Newcastle Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Yesterday this surprised me but by today I could see the benefits to both parties. It's hardly a gamble for United and lets face it Sheringham, Blanc and Larson were all supposed to be past it but proved useful signings. _________________ Keep Calm & Carry On. Back to top Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead My Car: pending Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 12122 Location: Europa Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:37 am    Post subject: There's no truth in the rumour that his shirt number will be 999 ... Back to top BeN The Motor, Singapore branch. My Car: Toyota Corolla View My Motor: . Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 9012 Location: Singapore Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:36 pm    Post subject: It'll be very interesting when Man U travel to Anfield next season... _________________ On the other side of the world - Hurlecot de Millou Not the same since 2008 Back to top franki68 Petrolhead Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 2382 Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject: the united boards are awash with despair and anger. Personally the biggest issue is his fitness,Uniteds medical team are quite possibly the worst in the known universe (Saha,hargreaves ). If he is fit then fergy is the man to get him motivated ,and he is a natural goalscorer something that cannot be lost (or acquired). Still would rather have had benzema,but its all set up for rooney to excel next season,with no ronaldo to cover for. Back to top Gurney Turbocharged My Car: Town = fortwo. Country = 156 GTA Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 4103 Location: Here be dragons. Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: If Fergy does make this work - and if anyone can he can, well, what can you say. Big ask though. _________________ A Gentleman: Def: A male of the species who can play the Trombone. But refrains from doing so. Back to top woof woof Twin-charged My Car: Is Red. Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 9946 Location: Sat on the rug, nice and cosy. Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Madness. On the Rooney issue, covering for the oik seemed a waste of Rooney, other players might have spat their dummy out and asked for a transfer. Playing players out of position is common at Boro but surprising when the player involved is such high value and at such a high performing club as Man U with such a large squad. _________________ woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's." Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents." Back to top Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead My Car: pending Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 12122 Location: Europa Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: Apparently Ferguson has always been a fan and has considered signing him in the past. I suppose getting him on a free transfer and with wages based on playing and performance, he's not taking much of a risk. And who knows, maybe it'll be like Button in F1 this season, kickstarting a presumed moribund career. Back to top Mark Petrolhead My Car: Jaguar X-Type 2.0d Sport Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 2305 Location: Yorkshire Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:37 pm    Post subject: franki68 wrote: the united boards are awash with despair and anger Why? Surely he's costing the club relatively little. I think it's a good move for both parties - I'm sure he's still got it in him and as long as he's fit, he'll love playing for them and give it everything. Back to top woof woof Twin-charged My Car: Is Red. Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 9946 Location: Sat on the rug, nice and cosy. Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Maybe the despair and anger is caused by the thought that the best they can do is a player approaching the end of his career who hardly seems to kick a ball these days. Regardless of the quality and fitness of the guy I'd imagine that for Man U fans someone rapidly approaching the end might be seen as a bit of a let down when other clubs are paying £20M+ for players more at their peak. _________________ woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's." Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents." Back to top TimR Supercharged My Car: Fiat Coupe Turbo, BMW E39 M5 Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5096 Location: On the hard shoulder Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: woof woof wrote: Regardless of the quality and fitness of the guy I'd imagine that for Man U fans someone rapidly approaching the end might be seen as a bit of a let down when other clubs are paying £20M+ for players more at their peak. Maybe the Utd fans would rather they signed someone like, say, Drogba. Fantastic player when he's up for it but most of the time he seems to be either lying on the ground following an apparent assassination attempt or being childish/stroppy/petty/sulky and IMO rarely gives anything like a 100% effort. On balance they'll get more actual on field performance out of Owen and for a fraction of the cost. Back to top Apex clipper Turbocharged My Car: Is now fixededed... Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 3495 Location: Worcester..sauce..shire. Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: He'll injure himself signing the contract! _________________ Minky Moo & Millie Maloo. Back to top boc70 Running In My Car: SEAT Toledo Joined: 06 Jan 2009 Posts: 271 Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: I suspect Owen turning up makes the opposition supporters' chants a bit different: "You're coming here in a f***ing ambulance" At least he shouldn't have to commute by helicopter any more. Back to top Gooner Turbocharged My Car: Focus Sportback Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 3240 Location: here, there and every bloody where! Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:28 pm    Post subject: If it works he could become a legend like Sherringham did. He's out of contract with Newcastle so as a free transfer he's probably worth a punt. Especially as Real Madrid nick every other player Chelsea or United are interested in. _________________ - Insert clever and/or amusing quote here - Back to top franki68 Petrolhead Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 2382 Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: tevez ,5 prem goals in over 30 games owen 7 in 20ish in a shit team. I trust in fergy,owen will be a useful sub,shrek and berb will be the strike force to strike dread into the hearts of defenders. Back to top gonnabuildabuggy Turbocharged My Car: E36 328 & '90 Golf GTI for a while Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 4669 Location: Nr. Milton Keynes, Roundabout City Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:22 am    Post subject: franki68 wrote: I trust in fergy +1 The guys record is better than mine (and any other prem manager) so who am i to question his judgement. Sh!t buys I can recall easily - kleberson, veron, the czech winger and forlan. Wise buys - Sheringham, Cantona, Larson and more. I've learnt from Ince and many other transfers that Fergy knows what he's doing more than any of the rest of us so just trust in him. And on a free then he's great value - especially in an overheating market where players will be losing money rapidly in the next 12 months. _________________ Aint no substitute for cubic inches. Back to top DaveGibson Supercharged My Car: Lexus IS250 SE-I Auto. Triumph TR7V8 Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5458 Location: Worcestershire Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: I seem to recall a manager who peopled his team with apparent has-beens. Brian Clough was his name. He did something Ferguson has yet to do - won the European Cup and then retained it. Back to top franki68 Petrolhead Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 2382 Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:44 pm    Post subject: DaveGibson wrote: I seem to recall a manager who peopled his team with apparent has-beens. Brian Clough was his name. He did something Ferguson has yet to do - won the European Cup and then retained it. indeed,but winning the european cup and retaining it was a peace of piss in those days.One could argue it was harder to get into ,but once in it was much much easier to win.Liverpool once won it playing a grand total of 5 games I think,4 of which were against the likes of the champions of luxemborg and sweden or something like that. Since the ECL's inception no team has retained it ,which shows how tough it is. Back to top Rodge Turbocharged My Car: Needs a service Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 4367 Location: Schmocation. Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:42 am    Post subject: What's more surprising? That Ferguson has signed Owen or that someone has actually signed for Man Utd this summer instead of Madrid/Barca/City? It's a sensible move for both. I still think Utd are missing a player or two. They need to improve on last year's squad and haven't done that yet. _________________ http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm...ds.individual&VideoID=2869045 Back to top franki68 Petrolhead Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 2382 Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:35 am    Post subject: Rodge wrote: What's more surprising? That Ferguson has signed Owen or that someone has actually signed for Man Utd this summer instead of Madrid/Barca/City? It's a sensible move for both. I still think Utd are missing a player or two. They need to improve on last year's squad and haven't done that yet. wilst this is true,people forget that 2 of our best players from the previous year,brown and hargreaves missed the entire season.Hargreaves is very very importan player as he is the only ball winning midfield player we have. Back to top TimR Supercharged My Car: Fiat Coupe Turbo, BMW E39 M5 Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5096 Location: On the hard shoulder Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:27 pm    Post subject: Rodge wrote: It's a sensible move for both. I still think Utd are missing a player or two. They need to improve on last year's squad and haven't done that yet. It's funny when people think like this, after all talent comes from somewhere before you've heard of it and it becomes expensive to buy. Shouldn't people be looking to the upcoming youths (I presume there are some) at Man U and wondering if one/several of them is ready for the big team? Imagine the joy if they could find the next Ronaldo from their own ranks and not have to spend any of the £80 million. On a mildly related issue I see the spotty one has been mouthing off pending his presentation in Madrid. Apparently the best players are in Spain (maybe) and the referees protect players better there. So who exactly are the refs protecting the players from? Oh, that's right. From other players. The man's a 6 foot tall penis. Back to top Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead My Car: pending Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 12122 Location: Europa Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:41 pm    Post subject: TimR wrote: Shouldn't people be looking to the upcoming youths (I presume there are some) at Man U and wondering if one/several of them is ready for the big team? Imagine the joy if they could find the next Ronaldo from their own ranks and not have to spend any of the £80 million. I imagine that's what they're planning to do, but they've always managed to avoid over-exposing promising young players to early, hence the value of having a few wise old heads who don't cost too much. And if Owen does find good form, maybe he can put some pressure on the under-performing and expensive Berbatov. Back to top gonnabuildabuggy Turbocharged My Car: E36 328 & '90 Golf GTI for a while Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 4669 Location: Nr. Milton Keynes, Roundabout City Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: TimR wrote: Shouldn't people be looking to the upcoming youths (I presume there are some) at Man U and wondering if one/several of them is ready for the big team? Imagine the joy if they could find the next Ronaldo from their own ranks and not have to spend any of the £80 million. I imagine that's what they're planning to do, but they've always managed to avoid over-exposing promising young players to early, hence the value of having a few wise old heads who don't cost too much. And if Owen does find good form, maybe he can put some pressure on the under-performing and expensive Berbatov. Macheda and Wellbeck are planned for great things but this keeps the pressure of for a while rather than need them to perform week in week out. I suspect Owen will be on the bench for most games and used as a late sub as he was at Madrid, and if he puts pressure on Berbatov then fine. If he can then sell him on in 1/2 seasons for a few mill then good business. Personally I'd have preferred they'd kept Tevez but the true machinations of what happened will never be public I guess. _________________ Aint no substitute for cubic inches. Back to top woof woof Twin-charged My Car: Is Red. Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 9946 Location: Sat on the rug, nice and cosy. Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject: I know it doesn't matter but isn't Tevez the ugliest bloke ever? _________________ woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's." Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents." Back to top Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead My Car: pending Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 12122 Location: Europa Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:16 pm    Post subject: True - I was imagining if United had kept him and signed Ribery: they'd win by scaring the opposition to death. Back to top BeN The Motor, Singapore branch. My Car: Toyota Corolla View My Motor: . Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 9012 Location: Singapore Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Not to mention Wayne "Shrek" Rooney. _________________ On the other side of the world - Hurlecot de Millou Not the same since 2008 Back to top Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead My Car: pending Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 12122 Location: Europa Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:57 pm    Post subject: And Carrick and Neville are hardly oil paintings (except ones by Hieronymus Bosch, or maybe Picasso) Back to top woof woof Twin-charged My Car: Is Red. Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 9946 Location: Sat on the rug, nice and cosy. Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: It makes you wonder why footballers are such a big hit with the ladies. OK, maybe not with the ladies, but with women anyway. I suppose they must all be just really nice guys. _________________ woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's." Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents." Back to top Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead My Car: pending Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 12122 Location: Europa Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: woof woof wrote: It makes you wonder why footballers are such a big hit with the ladies. OK, maybe not with the ladies, but with women anyway. I suppose they must all be just really nice guys. Or, as Mrs Merton once asked Debbie McGee: "so Debbie, what first attracted you to multi-millionaire Paul Daniels?" Back to top BeN The Motor, Singapore branch. My Car: Toyota Corolla View My Motor: . Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 9012 Location: Singapore Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Yes. Money over-rules everything (for some people anyway). _________________ On the other side of the world - Hurlecot de Millou Not the same since 2008 Back to top tali Motoring On My Car: Peugeot 307 1.6s auto Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 790 Location: witherbury,upper berkshire Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Owen arrived at Man Utd in his BMW M6 (Motorway).......in a colour that can only be described as Man City Blue.     _________________ 23 mpg -94pug 405td 22mpg -87mg montego turbo 18-22mpg -83toyota camry 1.8 17-mpg -91citroen ax gt 17 mpg -80 toyota starlet 1.2 16mpg -85montego 1.6 15mpg -99mondeo 2.0auto Back to top Gooner Turbocharged My Car: Focus Sportback Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 3240 Location: here, there and every bloody where! Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: I love the mash: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/spo...ng-contract-signing-200907061879/ _________________ - Insert clever and/or amusing quote here - Back to top Matt Nuclear My Car: Astra Coupe 1.8 SE2 Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 12018 Location: Plymouth, UK Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Haha, that's hilarious, especially this Quote: Charlie Reeves, a United fan from Surrey, said: "I remember that goal he scored for England when he was 12. Marvellous. His cheeky little face made him look like one of the sprites from The Magic Flute. "And now he is playing for my favourite team unless I start supporting Liverpool or Chelsea, or that one with all the nice Jewish people." _________________ Small car, big heart. Back to top Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead My Car: pending Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 12122 Location: Europa Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Talking of visually challenging footballers, how about this lovely pair - Schalke 04 players Mesut Ozil and Timo Kunert ... Back to top BeN The Motor, Singapore branch. My Car: Toyota Corolla View My Motor: . Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 9012 Location: Singapore Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject: How about the wonderfully named Kermit Erasmus? And then there's Luke Chadwick. So awful I'll spare you guys pictures. _________________ On the other side of the world - Hurlecot de Millou Not the same since 2008 Back to top TimR Supercharged My Car: Fiat Coupe Turbo, BMW E39 M5 Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5096 Location: On the hard shoulder Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: [quote="Dr. Hfuhruhurr" [/quote] Is the next picture in the sequence him in a Hitler Youth uniform? Back to top Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead My Car: pending Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 12122 Location: Europa Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:16 pm    Post subject: BeN wrote: And then there's Luke Chadwick. So awful I'll spare you guys pictures. I won't! And then there's Bulgarian player/werewolf Trifon Ivanov: And how could we leave out Iain Dowie: Back to top franki68 Petrolhead Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 2382 Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: BeN wrote: And then there's Luke Chadwick. So awful I'll spare you guys pictures. I won't! And then there's Bulgarian player/werewolf Trifon Ivanov: And how could we leave out Iain Dowie: Im perturbed that you have these pictures,and so many of them. Back to top Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead My Car: pending Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 12122 Location: Europa Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: They're all from Who Ate All The Pies. Back to top TimR Supercharged My Car: Fiat Coupe Turbo, BMW E39 M5 Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 5096 Location: On the hard shoulder Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:01 pm    Post subject: Any of Davie Dodds? Back to top Gooner Turbocharged My Car: Focus Sportback Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 3240 Location: here, there and every bloody where! Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: What about Martin Keown, he was never much of an oil painting! _________________ - Insert clever and/or amusing quote here - Back to top canadian bacon Petrolhead My Car: 1959 Austin Healey Sprite View My Motor: . Joined: 27 Dec 2006 Posts: 2394 Location: toronto Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:13 pm    Post subject: Iain Dowie, or at least his twin: the resemblence is uncanny... _________________ wtf happened to summer ?   Back to top Rodge Turbocharged My Car: Needs a service Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 4367 Location: Schmocation. Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: I was working beside Ronaldo yesterday. Well, Real Madrid are training in the hotel beside my job. It was funny though, they arrived on Monday night. Ronaldo, fresh from his transfer to sunny Real Madrid found himself starting his career on the first day of pre season training in weather that could only be described as worse than anything he experienced in Manchester. It was horrendous, there was even hailstones! _________________ http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm...ds.individual&VideoID=2869045 Back to top kraftwerk Twin-charged My Car: Mercedes-Benz SL500; Fiat 128; Fiat 238B Weinsberg Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 8436 Location: London Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:55 pm    Post subject: Ex-Partick Thistle, Franck Ribery _________________ I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it through not dying. 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