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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok VBH and Sabine - now there is a threesome
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it looks properly Barryboys, and it doesn't sound that good. With a 300 horsey 5 banger up front, I'd be expecting ur-quattro-mid-stage noises, so the muted warble is disappointing


Bollocks

http://motoring.sky.com/features/...eo-ford-focus-rs-triple-test.aspx

2 minutes and 55 seconds in - sounds top, looks top.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it looks properly Barryboys, and it doesn't sound that good. With a 300 horsey 5 banger up front, I'd be expecting ur-quattro-mid-stage noises, so the muted warble is disappointing


Bollocks

http://motoring.sky.com/features/...eo-ford-focus-rs-triple-test.aspx

2 minutes and 55 seconds in - sounds top, looks top.


It does sound 'top' around that time, but not as good in the later clips.  It certainly doesn't look 'top'.  In my humble opinion of course!

The 135i for me, without question.  
It sounds the best (although not as good as a 130?)
It looks the best (inside and out)
So is the best!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BMWs turbo engines sound nowhere near as good as its n/a ones.  Hence the surprise that M cars will be turbocharged.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a go in a 335i Coupé when they first came out and that sounded pretty good. Maybe not as nice as an M3, but then few things do.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the turbocharged whoosh that seems to mute most of the engine's natural growliness. An N/A Veyron engine would sound a lot more epic than the real one does.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's always been my impression of turbocharged engines.  I know there are exceptions (F40 etc etc), but they do seem to dampen 'character.'
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Subaru turbo engines sound good with a decent pipe. Miles better than the Evo, which sounds like an XR3i with a Motorworld special backbox.

I must admit to liking the sound of turbo engines, especially the bassy, low compression rumble at low revs. I was passed the other day by a turbocharged Clio 182 at slow speed and it sounded brilliant: All bass with a slight wastegate chatter when he changed gear.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XFR: Yummy. Bye bye M5.

Sienna Miller: Boring skinny tramp.

RWD motors: Hammond's ZX looked like an import with nice wheels, Clarkson's 944 was a mega shed that no-one in their right mind would have paid 1500 green queens for and May's Capri was in a sad state. They must have modified the Marina to high heaven to get it to ice race. The 5 stud wheels gave it away.

I enjoyed the ice-racing segment. Yes, it's obviously scripted, but those races always amuse me, especially the childish decals on the cars.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had a go in a 335i Coupé when they first came out and that sounded pretty good. Maybe not as nice as an M3, but then few things do.


And me, I thought the 335i Idrove soundced quite 'bassy'.
Then my Sierra is only a 4-pot so doesn't sound as refined - just a loud 4-cylinder noise.

Quite enjoyed the Top Gear £1500 feature.....I somehow suspected the Capri would overheat/blow a hose. Few people ever go to the trouble of replacing water hoses on old cars as it is quite expensive to do a proper job and the extra 7 years of age was bound to tell
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loved the XFR, sat in one at Goodwood and it's a car I'd buy, prefer it over the M5.
The race was ok, I kept wondering who was the best racing driver in France, cos I'd rate Loeb above them all.
The stickers were funny, but I didn't see them all. Lesbien Hats and Coq were the only ones I made out.
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Hammond's driver's door said 'Merde' and JC's passenger door said 'Phart Industries'

Not big, not clever, but it tickled me.

The more I think about it, the more I realise that Hammond got a hell of a lot of car for 1500 notes. As near as damnit 300 Bhp and it was reliable.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

James May's car had "Les Bien" on his, so childish but so funny.

A very funny episode, that Ice driving looks suicidal, did anyone hear one of them call him Olivier Penis?

Sienna Miller just gets on my wick how borning and personality less is she?

Another funny episode but god sort out Hammonds hair.
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IIRC One car had Petit yaourt which became Tit yaourt when the door was opened.
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I had no idea who the IIARPC was.  Mrs 12th wasn't adequately able to tell me why she's actually famous either.  Talked too much and started speaking before JC had finished, which might have been nerves but could just as easily be lost-in-showbiz.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had no idea who the IIARPC was.  Mrs 12th wasn't adequately able to tell me why she's actually famous either.  Talked too much and started speaking before JC had finished, which might have been nerves but could just as easily be lost-in-showbiz.


She's an actor, dahling, doncha know. Oh, and I thnik she was shacked up with a serial-shagger for a while, til he got caught (again). Or maybe that was sommeone  else............
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Twelfth Monkey wrote:
I had no idea who the IIARPC was.  Mrs 12th wasn't adequately able to tell me why she's actually famous either.  Talked too much and started speaking before JC had finished, which might have been nerves but could just as easily be lost-in-showbiz.


She's an actor, dahling, doncha know. Oh, and I thnik she was shacked up with a serial-shagger for a while, til he got caught (again). Or maybe that was sommeone  else............


Sometimes she is out in Shrewsbury as she is quite matey with Otis Ferry ( son of Roxy Music frontman ) who lives round here.

I too didn't know who she was until my wife pointed her out  and told me she was the totty out of 'Layer Cake'
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She's shagging Balthazar Getty.
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She has quite a small part in Layer Cake and she doesn't look good in it IMHO.
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She has quite a small part in Layer Cake and she doesn't look good in it IMHO.


She's certainly got quite small parts!!

BTW, I must apologise for the glaring spelling errors whilst incarcerated in here - the keyboards here are "soft touch" rubberised jobs, with no feel whatsoever and a consequent lack of subtly when typing.

And, I usually can't be arsed to edit it after.
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There is something about the feel of rubber though isn't there?
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Sometimes she is out in Shrewsbury as she is quite matey with Otis Ferry ( son of Roxy Music frontman ) who lives round here.


Along with Nick Griffin, another unfortunate import into our County IMHO.
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Turbonutter wrote:


Sometimes she is out in Shrewsbury as she is quite matey with Otis Ferry ( son of Roxy Music frontman ) who lives round here.


Along with Nick Griffin, another unfortunate import into our County IMHO.


Do you think he'd agree to being 'voluntarily repatriated'?
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Wasn't Jude Law hanging out the back of her for a while ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just watched it.

Cheap car challenges are one of TG's better features. This one wasn't the best by any means, but still entertaining.  I truly did laughed out loud when Panis yelled at May's car. "What is this shitbox?"  

XFR looks brilliant. It's gone straight to the top of my list of "Performance sedans to drive before I die".

The plant feature was just plain stupid and unnecessary.

Guest was boring.
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Bone-crunchingly unfunny from start to finish, my wife enjoys it more than I do.  The cheap car challenges were good, but last nights was pants.
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Humphrey The Pug wrote:
She's shagging Balthazar Getty.


Once again, the question on my lips is 'who?'
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As Blarno wisely put it - "Sienna Miller: Boring skinny tramp"

PS - Oh, sorry, you mean who is Balthazar Getty...

He's an actor, he's in a band, he's a bit odd looking (IMHO) and his great granddad was suuuuuuuuuper rich.
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Anyone watch "5th Gear" last night?
Plato seemed quite impressed with the TT RS - shame they chose to do a challenge rather than head to some good driving roads and give a real report on the dynamics. Thought it looked quite good in red although I'm no particular TT fan. Better than a Cayman.....?  
Quite surprised that they chose to recommend an R-reg Calibra V6 as the cheap alternative to the 40k TT-RS. With early Mk1 TTs coming in at under 5k I would've thought they would make an ideal budget choice?

Somehow knew Tiff "I'll get you Butler" Needell would win the drift challenge On The Buses  

Last in the series next week and I'm looking forward to the Merc/Sierra head to head with Plato driving  





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"Quite surprised that they chose to recommend an R-reg Calibra V6 as the cheap alternative to the 40k TT-RS. With early Mk1 TTs coming in at under 5k I would've thought they would make an ideal budget choice?"

That does seem odd. I don't know too much about them but I don't think I'd trust an R reg Calibra further than I could throw it, or further than I could walk home anyway.

I missed the show, I'll have to see if I can catch a repeat.
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woof woof wrote:
He's an actor, he's in a band, he's a bit odd looking (IMHO) and his great granddad was suuuuuuuuuper rich.


I'm guessing his acting and musical talents are about on a par with, oh I dunno, Paris Hilton, then?
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"Quite surprised that they chose to recommend an R-reg Calibra V6 as the cheap alternative to the 40k TT-RS. With early Mk1 TTs coming in at under 5k I would've thought they would make an ideal budget choice?"

That does seem odd. I don't know too much about them but I don't think I'd trust an R reg Calibra further than I could throw it, or further than I could walk home anyway.

I missed the show, I'll have to see if I can catch a repeat.


I think they repeat it on Saturday mornings woof...alternatively you can watch it from the website for 5th Gear
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That does seem odd. I don't know too much about them but I don't think I'd trust an R reg Calibra further than I could throw it, or further than I could walk home anyway.

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They were picking the V6 model - I always remember it as not being particularly maintenance friendly (  I've never had one though so don't know how true that is ). Probably a cheaper option than the 4x4 Turbo though even if that had the 4wd like the TT.
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With any luck, next series it won't be the "Tim & Tom" show. I know VBH can be an annoying bint most of the time, but at least she can drive a bit, and (mostly) has a fair idea of what she's talking about.
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It's the cackling though...and the "Thwaaarrrr's" and the constant references to throbbing. As she ages I can just imagine "Young Maaaan" becoming another of her catch phrases.

I wish her well and happiness but the sooner she decides to spend more time with the family the better.
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It's the cackling though...and the "Thwaaarrrr's" and the constant references to throbbing. As she ages I can just imagine "Young Maaaan" becoming another of her catch phrases.

I wish her well and happiness but the sooner she decides to spend more time with the family the better.


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Well I would yes and I wouldn't even hate myself in the morning. I wouldn't be nice though, I'd be nasty.
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Anyone watch "5th Gear" last night?
Plato seemed quite impressed with the TT RS - shame they chose to do a challenge rather than head to some good driving roads and give a real report on the dynamics. Thought it looked quite good in red although I'm no particular TT fan. Better than a Cayman.....?  
Quite surprised that they chose to recommend an R-reg Calibra V6 as the cheap alternative to the 40k TT-RS. With early Mk1 TTs coming in at under 5k I would've thought they would make an ideal budget choice?

Somehow knew Tiff "I'll get you Butler" Needell would win the drift challenge On The Buses  

Last in the series next week and I'm looking forward to the Merc/Sierra head to head with Plato driving  







If the Sierra doesn't mince that fat panzer wagon, I'll shave my testicles...
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If the Sierra doesn't mince that fat panzer wagon, I'll shave my testicles...

Now you know what happened the last time you made a rash promise involving your plums ...
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I'd prefer them bald than not there at all....
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Ref  Fifth Gear
How come no crash helmets for Bus race?
Why didn't bus tip over with Tiff thrashing it beyond its designed limits?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Blarno wrote:
If the Sierra doesn't mince that fat panzer wagon, I'll shave my testicles...

Now you know what happened the last time you made a rash promise involving your plums ...


I think your short and curlies are fairly safe ( knowing the result )  

Not sure if it will get the overall nod in the summation but in terms of raw speed it's a winner
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Frank Bullitt
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Citroen Ami - just lovely.
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Richard (ex-MB_insider)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The view from the onboard camera of the Citroen Ami - just lovely.
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Twelfth Monkey
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lordy, it was dull last night.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am getting bored with the format now.  The so called challenges are getting somewhat tedious as well.

I normally hate the SITRPC bit but I actually enjoyed last night's.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always found AC/DC deeply tedious, but at least Johnson has an interest in cars.  Contrast with the likes of Mark Wahlberg, who was on the show purely to further his career and made no attempt to conceal his boredom...

Driving the VW BlueSport thingy would have added something.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AC/DC: one of the few rock bands that admit they're just there to have a laugh.

I liked last night's show but I am a man of simple tastes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked last night's show. Groaned at the auction at the cars they bought - thinking they would just smash them up - but they really seemed to like them.

Would have been nice to hear more about the 370z. Rather than it is really good on track and really bad on the road.
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