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woof woof · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject:

Jeremy has just said that £25k is family saloon money.

No it isn't you fooking idiot.
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Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents."

PhilD · Running In Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 406

Guitar Zero · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject:

Bryan M · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject:

Nice to see my employer beating a Porsche, good episode

DaveGibson · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject:

woof woof · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject:

"It's not far off - have you seen the list price of a mid spec Mondeo, or 2.0 diesel A4/3 series/C Class ?"

Regardless, my point is that not many people will be paying £25k for a family saloon. Not their own £25k (even if they've got it) anyway.

This annoyed me as much as their £11k "cheap" car last week. Maybe they've got more money than sense these days, they're certainly losing touch with reality.
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woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."

Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents."

Gooner · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject:

They're not too far off price wise. I mid spec diesel mondeo with a couple of options is pushing that. An Insignia and Passat are also getting on for 25k with a 2.0 diesel engine.

The 11k cheap car does seem a bit silly when a Panda costs closer to 7 as does an i10 or Picanto.
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woof woof · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject:

I don't think I know anyone who'd pay £25k for a family car.

I'd also argue the cars being put forward as family cars. It depends on how much you've got or your income, obviously, but those aren't what families generally buy here, a class or two below, maybe, or when they're a few years old but £25k? Not a hope for most.
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woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."

Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents."

Guitar Zero · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject:

PhilD · Running In Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 406

What was the context Alan? (I missed the beginning of the show) TG are often hopelessly inaccurate when talking about cars, deliberately so I suspect in order to make a point/joke.

woof woof · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject:

I think he was serious Phil.

He was reviewing a go fast Focus when he made the remark, his point being that the fast Focus was a bargain as it only cost the same as a family saloon.

GZ, If he'd simply said that you could pay £25k for a Mundano I wouldn't have too much of a problem, I'd just think that anyone who actually did that was off their trolley.

After his comments in recent weeks I honestly think his wealth is causing him to lose touch with reality.
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woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."

Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents."

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Twelfth Monkey · Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:57 am Post subject:

Hammond looks dreadful.

The car vs army bit was rubbish, as was the race.

Bolt was fast but dull, so all in all the low of the season thus far.
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simonp · Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:03 am Post subject:

Sienna Miller next week. Probably be dull again, but a hell of a lot easier on the eye!

BeN · Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject:

Not the greatest show. They seem to be tired and recycling old ideas now (Hot hatch torque steer was demonstrated on the Astra VXR; Clarkson vs military has been done numerous times).

Even the race seemed a bit dubious. I would have thought the car would win, and I think they sandbagged it a bit for dramatic effect.

I actually read something similar in an American magazine (Car And Driver I think) a while back. In that one they used a Bentley Conti GT Convertible to race against FedEx from Washington D.C to Miami. I thought that was a much more interesting race because FedEx promised overnight delivery with just one stop (Memphis), so the car really had to push it.
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Blarno · Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject:

I prefer the R26R. Lighter and less Halfords looking. Just. I can't warm to the Focus RS at all. I'm sure it's a brilliant car, but in green with all the black plastic, it looks properly Barryboys, and it doesn't sound that good. With a 300 horsey 5 banger up front, I'd be expecting ur-quattro-mid-stage noises, so the muted warble is disappointing.

The Panamera is doubtless a fine car, but looks like a dog taking a shit. And the centre console looks like one of those 7k mobile phones that publicity whores have.

Usain Bolt: Zzzzzzzzzzz
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Twelfth Monkey · Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:17 pm Post subject:

There's a green RS parked around the corner from our office, and its engineering excellence is utterly undermined by the Hot Wheels styling, for me at least. Come to that I saw my first GT-R this morning, and whilst it's in a different league, I have similar feelings about it.
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Bryan M · Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject:

Race was fairly easy to predict because each connection in the Network is scheduled so baring a tech plane, weather etc the letter side is pretty fixed.

They didn't seem to have too many hold ups en route so I would suggest they were a little ambitious in the planning stage, they were also reliant on ferry crossings etc

I helped set up the tracking system in the van's to follow the letter.

Mark · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:21 am Post subject:

Watched it last night.

The Porsche looks good on the road in motion - looks rubbish at the kerb and under-wheeled. Options are ridiculous.

Couldn't live with the plastic Megane - those windows?

Hammonds hair - what the fuck? The same goes for May - he looks like a Spaniel.

TimR · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:25 am Post subject:

woof woof · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:31 am Post subject:

"I think the Porsche looks like a 5 door Chrysler Crossfire"

Yup. At the back anyway.
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woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."

Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents."

Humphrey The Pug · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:01 am Post subject:

Twelfth Monkey · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:35 am Post subject:

I reckon that the show needs a breath of fresh air, and Hammond being replaced would be a good place to start. Along with one 'race' per series, maximum.
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"Accident Blackspot"? These aren't accidents. They're throwing themselves into the road gladly. Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness.'

Giant · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:59 am Post subject:

Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject:

I wouldn't change the team, as they work well together. Instead, get rid of nonsense like SIARPC, the Cool Wall and the Stig (replace the latter with a driver who can talk about cars as well as driving them), and do more full-length features like Vietnam.

Giant · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject:

DaveGibson · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject:

From what I've read about budget restraints, I doubt they could afford another 'Vietnam'.

simonp · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:46 pm Post subject:

Twelfth Monkey · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:07 pm Post subject:

TimR · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject:

I'm not sure CIARPC is dead but it does seem to last about 10 times as long as it used to and too often seems to involve JC gushing over the guest.

Mind you I've barely watched any of the last 3 series so maybe I've just been unlucky with the ones I've caught.

Dr. Hfuhruhurr · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject:

woof woof · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:30 pm Post subject:

I'll make a cup of tea or do something else while the "star" is on. I'm reasonably happy with the show just so long as the cackling "throbbing" frog doesn't feature...or Jason Plato...or any of that lot apart from Tiff, I like him.
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woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."

Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents."

Giant · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:44 pm Post subject:

Bryan M · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject:

Sabine or the frog?

Giant · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:31 pm Post subject:

woof woof · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject:

Sabine Schmidt every time, for lots of reasons

Frogs belong in ponds. That one doubly so.
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woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."

Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents."

DaveGibson · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:35 am Post subject:

Blarno · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:15 am Post subject:

woof woof · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:06 am Post subject:

Dave, what I said was "I'm reasonably happy with the show just so long as the cackling "throbbing" frog doesn't feature...or Jason Plato...or any of that lot apart from Tiff, I like him."

That seems to show that I know TG from FG to me.

Water is for washing and making tea.
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woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."

Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents."

simonp · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject:

Blarno · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:54 pm Post subject:

Doesn't have that ur-quattro appeal!
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simonp · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject:

Found another vid and the other green car sounds loads better. I wanna Jag!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRRiuqo0boA

The Insignia VXR is almost silent in this company.

DarthBalls · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject:

Am I alone in missing VBH? She's not been on FG this series yet.

Tiff would be the ideal replacement for The Stig on TG - but somehow I don't see that ever happening.
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woof woof · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:08 pm Post subject:

"Am I alone in missing VBH?"

YES.

I do like Tiff though.
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woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."

Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents."

Giant · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject:

woof woof · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject:

You are both banished to the naughty step!
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woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."

Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents."

Giant · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject:

woof woof · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject:

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.
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woof woof's defence lawyer claimed that "Booze played no part in his typo's."

Confucius says "all reckless speeding is caused by accidents."