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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:20 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

I have a strange liking for this:

http://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/M/3.0-s...197-3497069.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_

Is this a mid life crisis?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YES!!  

I'm not sure I could bring myself to actually buy a £20k used 330d but I like them a lot more than I used to.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the MS looks better IMO.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Autotrader has broken. Everything says "There is a problem" and will not open.  
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnC wrote:
I have a strange liking for this:

http://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/M/3.0-s...197-3497069.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_

Is this a mid life crisis?


In that colour, I think it could well be!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit of a turn going on there. HRT pills going ok?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A bit of a turn going on there. HRT pills going ok?



Now you've said that.....I had a bad back last week and literally couldn't move on Wednesday. I went to see the doctor and got a copious supply of horse pills. The back is nearly sorted but it has maybe done some permanent damage!

Still tomorrow I have to get my kit off for the nubile osteopath and "suffer" 40 minutes of her manipulation. Can't wait.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No wonder you are getting ads on here for Intimissi John, M&S must have logged your bra-fitting on line  
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhilD wrote:
No wonder you are getting ads on here for Intimissi John, M&S must have logged your bra-fitting on line †


I definitely think these adverts are for the whole forum: Currently seeing a Halifax mortgage advert and I have never been there or looked up mortgages on this PC. Likewise I had a B&Q advert earlier and I can't remember the last time I searched their site. Still can't complain about the Intimissi adverts even though I haven't seen them for a few weeks now.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
I had a 2.4 Diesel Brera as a hire car one weekend - really nice interior where what looked like metal typically was ...


Not sure if you are saying the interior was nice or wasn't?

Brera 3.2 4wd is in my bucket list.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't the 2wd Brera S 3.2 the preferred choice?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim wrote:
Isn't the 2wd Brera S 3.2 the preferred choice?


The Prodrive? A lot pricier.

4wd is one of the attractions.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that one.
I'm sure the mags reckoned it was the car the Brera should've started out as, lighter and much nimbler.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim wrote:
Yeah that one.
I'm sure the mags reckoned it was the car the Brera should've started out as, lighter and much nimbler.


It's in this months Modern Classic as one of the ten cars expected to appreciate in value - does look good and I hadn't realised they did a 2wd Brera 3.2
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnC wrote:
Would something like this not be better with 4WD and an array of extras. It looks like it has the adaptive headlights as well and the boot mat suggests it has been well looked after.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...ising-location=at_cars&page=1


does the BMW pan roof open? If so that looks like the perfect combo, full length and opening. I know I said I'm not bothered about the opening bit but your post about it the other day John made me change my mind!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frank Bullitt wrote:
Tim wrote:
Yeah that one.
I'm sure the mags reckoned it was the car the Brera should've started out as, lighter and much nimbler.


It's in this months Modern Classic as one of the ten cars expected to appreciate in value - does look good and I hadn't realised they did a 2wd Brera 3.2


http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...MEO&sort=price-asc&page=4
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
Tim wrote:
Yeah that one.
I'm sure the mags reckoned it was the car the Brera should've started out as, lighter and much nimbler.


It's in this months Modern Classic as one of the ten cars expected to appreciate in value - does look good and I hadn't realised they did a 2wd Brera 3.2


http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...MEO&sort=price-asc&page=4


Me likey. I occasionally think I should just get one of these; good looking (*don't think about the wheel base*), room for Mini D in the back, decent boot. Soul, passion etc etc

before I remember how much I curse not having rear doors.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhilD wrote:
[ room for Mini D in the back, decent boot. Soul, passion etc etc


I sat in the front of one of these and with the seat set for my mighty 5 foot 7 there was no legroom. I'm really not sure if someone 6 feet tall would be able to push the seat far enough back.

I agree on the decent boot though, not sure about passion since it's got some godawful (allegedly) GM based engine  
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I thought they had some space in the back. I guess the bloody wheelbase strikes again. Why didn't they make this!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They did and called it the 8C
It solves the problem of rear seat legroom by being a 2 seater  
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim wrote:
I sat in the front of one of these and with the seat set for my mighty 5 foot 7 there was no legroom. I'm really not sure if someone 6 feet tall would be able to push the seat far enough back.


I drove a Brera when they came out. I thought I would like it, but I just could not  find a comfortable driving setting.
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I've read up now and apart from the leg and headroom the rear seats are really good!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhilD wrote:
I've read up now and apart from the leg and headroom the rear seats are really good!

So ideal for short amputee back seat drivers. Or headless tall ones.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tim wrote:
I sat in the front of one of these and with the seat set for my mighty 5 foot 7 there was no legroom. I'm really not sure if someone 6 feet tall would be able to push the seat far enough back.


I drove a Brera when they came out. I thought I would like it, but I just could not †find a comfortable driving setting.


I test-drove a Prodrive 2wd Brera 3.2 back in the day - my thoughts are here: http://themotor.myfastforum.org/about9875.html

I preferred the GTA as a steer.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That M4 is a fantastic colour - just a shame it's paddle shit. It's easy to get sucked into the "just another BMW" syndrome, but the 4-series coupe is one of the best looking cars on sale, IMHO.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
That M4 is a fantastic colour - just a shame it's paddle shit. It's easy to get sucked into the "just another BMW" syndrome, but the 4-series coupe is one of the best looking cars on sale, IMHO.


I am glad someone agrees!
I walked back to my car last night in the supermarket carpark and thought it looked fantastic as it glinted in the LED carpark lights.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thoughts have already turned to a replacement for the, er, new 320 although it'll probably be next spring since I've just put winter tyres on it.

Mrs Tim thought a 5 series estate might be appropriate but I wondered if the current(ish) 3 might now be big enough compared with a teeny tiny E46 version.

I found this in Mrs Tim's favourite colour combo (for all cars, not just BMs and Alfas).

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...ising-location=at_cars&page=1

The only reason it's the 4x4 version is because we anticipate moving to a more rural location in the next couple of years.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam interior as the 3'er my missus has although she's got the Fineline wood as it makes the interior a lot warmer than the aluminium.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That has a decent spec. although you lose some functionality with the Business Nav instead of the Pro.

The current F31 is a good bit bigger than the E46 but it is not quite as big as the previous model 5 series touring (E61?). However in comparison to an E46 you will definitely notice the difference. The storage pack adds useful under floor storage in the boot and an extra cubby at the driver's right knee.

Xenons are a must and the Harman Kardon sound is a massive improvement over the standard offering. The big brakes (blue calipers) are probably a  marketing ploy but they look good and work well.
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Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
Sam interior as the 3'er my missus has although she's got the Fineline wood as it makes the interior a lot warmer than the aluminium.


Good choice. Something very right about a black BMW with red leather.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's nice. †Agree that it's worth getting one with professional nav (shouldn't be too difficult) and memory seats are well worth getting as the manual adjustment is rubbish, but that would be harder to find. † How much more would a 330d X Drive be?  £2-3k?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How much more would a 330d X Drive be? †£2-3k?


Unobtainium.
I didn't see any in my search.

I never thought about memory seats.
I can see that when the time comes I'm going to need some expert assistance from the BMW spotters club  
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just looked and there are 177 x 330d/335d XDrive Tourings on Autotrader....starting from £16,500 with plenty around the £20k mark.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:
the manual adjustment is rubbish,


That's only because there are so many things you can adjust that you never get back to the same position after a service, when they move everything.
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Wish we'd ordered electric seats on our car. The manual seats are an absolute ball ache when we swap cars. The back rest is imposible to adjust upright when your sat in the seat. I remember my dad swearing everytie he got in my mums 3 series 30 years ago and its not improved since.
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The height adjustment is the worst isn't it?

With memory seats they've adjusted (including the steering wheel and headrests on the 5) by the time you've opened the door if someone else has been driving the car, providing you use different keys. †It's ideal for us as we switch cars several times a week and have very different driving positions.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:
Just looked and there are 177 x 330d/335d XDrive Tourings on Autotrader....starting from £16,500 with plenty around the £20k mark.


D'Oh.
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Martin wrote:
The height adjustment is the worst isn't it?

With memory seats they've adjusted (including the steering wheel and headrests on the 5) by the time you've opened the door if someone else has been driving the car, providing you use different keys. †It's ideal for us as we switch cars several times a week and have very different driving positions.


There is that, I have to stand outside the car, pull the leaver with my right hand and then put all my weight on my other hand and push the seat down to its lowest setting before I can get in. The seats feel over stuffed too.
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Do BMW still have the system that relies on all weight beong removed from the seat for it to lift? If so, that's pretty shit.
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They do and it is.  The 5 series and above gets part electric seats as standard, so are OK (had that on the 520d) but full electric is much better.
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Giant wrote:
http://www.classicandsportscar.co...roup-2---fia-papers---lhd/6443510


That's the kind of rich boys toy I would happily buy if the numbers came up!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim wrote:
Martin wrote:
Just looked and there are 177 x 330d/335d XDrive Tourings on Autotrader....starting from £16,500 with plenty around the £20k mark.


D'Oh.


I withdraw my D'Oh  
I was looking for a manual, all the 6 cylinder cars are auto.
Mrs Tim is currently doing some, er, woman maths to make the car i linked to a good choice  
Website were out in the 320 today and she really hates it even compared to our older, 5 speed one.
It's also only doing 41mpg which is terrible
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Tim wrote:
I withdraw my D'Oh †
I was looking for a manual, all the 6 cylinder cars are auto.


Accept your fate. Eventually you have to go over to the dark side. A nice auto is what you need.  
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Tim wrote:
It's also only doing 41mpg which is terrible


Good as it is, if 41mpg is terrible, the 3 litre is not for you! I am currently doing about 37mpg with plenty of shorter journeys.

EDIT: this is the only one I can find with manual and electric seats. Far more autos have electric seats and you can get far more car for your money with the 3 litre cars and the autos. You really would wonder why you stuck out for a manual if you drove a modern auto for a few weeks.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...ew&onesearchad=New&page=1

EDIT2: I have just spent a good while searching 3 series touring Xdrives and I have to say the black one with red leather is right up there in value terms although it is a bit higher mileage but it has lots of nice extras.

On the mpg front, remember that diesels don't do as well in the winter due to the slower warm up (better thermal efficiency) and the diesel additive to prevent waxing which robs most cars of 1 to 2 mpg especially on shorter journeys.

This one is up your way if you need a comparison:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/class...c&postcode=ky155un&page=3

I think the service plan is 5 years or 50,000 miles though so that is probably expired now despite what the advert says.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

41 is poor for the 2 litre . My old one, a 5 speed, did 50 with the same driving. I suppose the 41 is the result of the current car having done 210k miles.
I used to get better from my E39 530d and it did more town commuting.

I'd seen the grey one but the part of the attraction of the black one is the colour scheme, Mrs Tim has made it clear she doesn't want a grey Car!

We're going to see it this afternoon.
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Deal done at £15,750.
I had a go on the BMW configuration last night and got to £40,500 for a new one with similar options. It's got the M Performance exhaust as well as the brakes too which must surely add at least 50BHP  
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Well done. It is a nice spec.
You just need to consider a warranty now!
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Good choice.

M Performance exhaust on a diesel?

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