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Coggiola Volvo P1800




Ital Design Tapiro (Porsche 914/6)



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I remember this from Cars International 1990...
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Zig and Zag.

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I like this one!

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Maserati Boomerang:






Alfa Caimano (Sud-based):






Alfa Navajo:



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Great thread.

Anyone got the Mercedes C111 from about 1978?
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Wow - I used to have a Corgi Junior (or maybe it was Matchbox) toy of this car when I was a wee lad.
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Yeah, I had models of quite a lot of these. Is it just because that was when I was getting into cars, or were the late 1960s/early 1970s the greatest time ever for concepts?
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Yeah, I had models of quite a lot of these. Is it just because that was when I was getting into cars, or were the late 1960s/early 1970s the greatest time ever for concepts?


There certainly seemed to be a lot of imagination around then. Perhaps the moon landings inspired some of the designs.
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True, and it was before the first fuel crisis, so perhaps the last time we had the sense of "no limits".
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I think it's important to remember that how concept cars are used has changed. In the past they were visionary and experimental seemingly for the sake of attention but these days the marketing sorts use them as a mechanism to preview future models and ideas.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Yeah, I had models of quite a lot of these. Is it just because that was when I was getting into cars, or were the late 1960s/early 1970s the greatest time ever for concepts?


There certainly seemed to be a lot of imagination around then. Perhaps the moon landings inspired some of the designs.


Or maybe acid?
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I think it's important to remember that how concept cars are used has changed. In the past they were visionary and experimental seemingly for the sake of attention but these days the marketing sorts use them as a mechanism to preview future models and ideas.

The other difference is that most concepts then were from design houses rather than mainstream manufacturers, so obviously they wanted to show what they could do.
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Also true. The idea of concept cars can probably be traced to GM who had the Motorama shows that toured the US. For them it started out as an advertising mechanism and grew from there.
It's a shame so many design houses are now owned or in the pocket of manufacturers as it limits their output. Worse still the likes of Ghia who are gone except for a badge on Fords.
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And the first concept car was.....?
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And also very sad to see the likes of Bertone struggling to survive. These days most manufacturers are so concerned about corporate identity that they tend to keep styling in house, which for Peugeot and Subaru - to name but two - is a big mistake, but also means the independents don't get the work they used to.
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And the first concept car was.....?


The 1938 Buick Y-Job, apparently.

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I knew it was the Y-Job, just couldn't remember who made it.
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Of course, you realise with this thread we've totally fucked "Guess the car" for the next six months ...
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I'm pretty fucked when it comes to 'guess the car' anyway, they're always obscure oldies...
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Now considerably more obscure

Incidentally, amazing how much of this has ended up in the last two Lagunas ...

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This will be stickied and moved to 'best of' when it's stopped growing. Love it.
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Nice one, Matt - if nothing else, it's an amazing reference source ...
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That is beautiful beyond words. Shame it wasn't made.

I found a tenner on the way to school once and with it I bought two car books from Woolworths. One was a concept car book, which I still have and enjoy a look through once a while.

Some favourites from it

BMW Just 4/2





Vauxhall Equus - the last car Vauxhall designed before the merger with Opel.



Renault Fiftie - It was thanks to this concept and the rendered picture in the book with the original mirrored underneath it that I fell in love with the Renault 4CV




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Love this, BMW Just 4/2:



How the Mini should have developed:




Anyone see a bit of Focus in this?



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Matt, have you just been flicking through Concept Cars by Jonathan Wood by any chance?
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Those last two are in the book.

The very same!
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Is it just me or is there a hint of R8 in that? If they'd extended the contrasting colour all the way up ...

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The 100EX is my favourite concept car of recent times:



I wonder if I can get a gratuitous RR photo into every thread?
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My favourite recent concepts were the Audi Nuvolari (much more beautiful somehow than the A5 which it spawned) and the Lancia Fulvia.
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A couple of super sexy Italdesign BMW's from the early 90's

Italdesign BMW Nazca C2





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Quite similar to this, which was always one of my favourites ...

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I remember the Nazca. Was included in the game Need For Speed 2, along with an early Pagani Zonda (way back in 1995!).
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Concept cars do go further back than the Y-Job.

There was the 1933 Cadillac Aerodynamic Concept Car:


The Volvo Venus Bilo from 1933:


And even the 1905 Cadillac Osceola Concept Car:
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Ah, so that's where Suzuki got the idea for the X90...
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What a marvellous thread, have we had the Fulvietta yet?
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We do now!

Love the front end on it.


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Lovely, front end is surely production ready, very neat indeed. Still want one.
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Renault Nepta


Aetek FYK


Saab Aero X


Ford Airstream


Maybach Excelero (!)

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The Nepta is stunning, Riva-esque in profile






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