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Racing Teatray
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:12 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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the 500X which we liked a lot and was even Racing-spec, being dark metallic green with brown leather seats.


Is there a write up of this?


I started it but never finished it. I will see if I can find the draft.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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 This ends on Thursday 22nd December and I will be unemployed again.  But with time on my hands and a GT4 crying out to be exercised.


I suggest an epic road trip! Unless you went for the same seats as Franki?


Same seats as Franki, but I have found them to be very comfortable so far.  Well, the driver's seat at least  
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Qashqai still really impresses all round - probably all the car most of us need really.


Probably true, the lacking in boot space according to those friends with one which makes it a little small for main family duties?


Plenty of boot space in ours - do they know they can remove the boot floor to increase it?


I know quite a few Qashqai owners and I've never heard one complain about the boot space!


Qashqai 430 litres, Golf 380 litres, Focus 318 litres, Astra  351 litres.

I suppose if the boot's not big enough you'd buy a Kadjar.


Golf's and Focus's aren't really main family cars though for a family of 4 with two teenagers.

Their solution has been a roof box.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love that in Italy the roof box gets referred to as the "mother-in-law carrier"...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PhilD wrote:
Stuntman wrote:

 This ends on Thursday 22nd December and I will be unemployed again.  But with time on my hands and a GT4 crying out to be exercised.


I suggest an epic road trip! Unless you went for the same seats as Franki?


Same seats as Franki, but I have found them to be very comfortable so far.  Well, the driver's seat at least  


I bet you can touch your toes.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Golf's and Focus's aren't really main family cars though for a family of 4 with two teenagers.



Really? When did that happen - did I miss the memo? Has anyone told Ford and VW?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gonnabuildabuggy wrote:


Golf's and Focus's aren't really main family cars though for a family of 4 with two teenagers.



Really? When did that happen - did I miss the memo? Has anyone told Ford and VW?


That was my immediate thought too! My previous boss has twin football-playing sons and they've managed with a Golf and/or variety of Fiesta's right through their growing years! And not because they couldn't afford bigger cars - they just never saw the need.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Golf's and Focus's aren't really main family cars though for a family of 4 with two teenagers.



Really? When did that happen - did I miss the memo? Has anyone told Ford and VW?


That was my immediate thought too! My previous boss has twin football-playing sons and they've managed with a Golf and/or variety of Fiesta's right through their growing years! And not because they couldn't afford bigger cars - they just never saw the need.


Nice as they are as cars, unless people are smaller up north, I'd say doing a 5 hr drive in the back of a Golf isn't much fun, compared to the back of a Passat.

Ditto, packing for a camping holiday is a bit of a stretch.

Totally different if you're just doing local runs.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Boxer6 wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:


Golf's and Focus's aren't really main family cars though for a family of 4 with two teenagers.



Really? When did that happen - did I miss the memo? Has anyone told Ford and VW?


That was my immediate thought too! My previous boss has twin football-playing sons and they've managed with a Golf and/or variety of Fiesta's right through their growing years! And not because they couldn't afford bigger cars - they just never saw the need.


Nice as they are as cars, unless people are smaller up north, I'd say doing a 5 hr drive in the back of a Golf isn't much fun, compared to the back of a Passat.

Ditto, packing for a camping holiday is a bit of a stretch.

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As it is in a Passat - that's why you have roofboxes.

Focus and Golfs are bigger than Mondeos and Vectras of only a few years ago.  Obviously Porkmeisters may need something extra big.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Focus is I'm sure, not been in back of a Golf for a while. My perspective is skewed to earlier versions.

But......space is a luxury and much as we can get away with less of it, more is nice.

We've been spoilt by the FRV which makes even an E Class feel small in the back (though, ironically, front leg room is poor so anyone over 6ft 2 would lack enough leg room.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had a day trip with 4 adults in a Mk1 Focus a few years back and I don't remember any particular discomfort (apart from that moment of terror when we went over a sharp crest at 70 and got airborne   ).
Mind you only the driver was over about 5 foot 7.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Focus is I'm sure, not been in back of a Golf for a while. My perspective is skewed to earlier versions.

But......space is a luxury and much as we can get away with less of it, more is nice.


The mk5 Golf certainly passed the 'me behind me' test and I would contend that they are perfectly capable as family cars for many people and perform the duty well.

Last year in France there was a family of 5 from Shropshire who'd driven down in a mk6 Golf, the youngest was ten but the older two were 16 and 14 - they didn't even have a roof box as the 5 bikes they had were spread between the roof and towbar! We had a Skoda Estelle when my sister and I were teenagers which was okay space-wise
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds like child cruelty to me!  Mine are too far the other way, apparently my next car should have reclining heated rear seats..... I can't moan too much, I loved my Dads Granada Scorpio with its comfy, electrically reclining l rear seats and aircon.  It made long journeys and summer holidays so much more enjoyable.

I had a Bora when my eldest was born and has moved to a Passat by the time my second arrived, but that was due to a job change rather than the need for any more spaces. I had a saloon followed by an estate (both taken from the pool) and the chose a saloon again.  Never had an issue with a lack of space, even on self catering family holidays to France and I didn't have to resort to strapping a shed to the roof.   I went for the estate this time because it looked and drove better than the saloon.  The extra practicality is useful now we don't have a hatchback in the garage, but it's not essential.  

I've always preferred big cars and even if I didn't have kids, I'd still have something of a decent size.  Maybe an S Class coupe, or a new Panamera....
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:
That sounds like child cruelty to me!


Hardly! Kids today don't know they are born.

In 1964, we drove 5 up as a family 1000 miles to Valencia, Spanish Costa Brava in an Austin 1100. It took three days.

In 1969 we did the same trip 6 up in a Jag 340. I sat on a seat fashioned between the front seats.

Motoring wide 2016 has been stable. I've had the XFR for 12 months on 1 December - service and MOT passed. Slight hiccup over a headlight but all on warranty.

The Shogun just carries on. It'll be 8 in April.

Loan  / hire car wise my memory is terrible. From Jag it has been XE or XF 2.0 diesels. Hire cars in the US have been a Kia people wagon (surprisingly comfortable for US driving); a Buick 2.0 - aka an Insignia (nice to drive one with a petrol engine); and recently a Chevy Impala (white goods).
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:
or a new Panamera....


That car in Turbo S flavour is stirring my loins a tad. And not just because of the crazy spoiler, which I think was on the old Kyphosis model. Perfect family car maybe...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree.  It's a lovely thing, apart from the fact that it's absolutely enormous.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Boxer6 wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:


Golf's and Focus's aren't really main family cars though for a family of 4 with two teenagers.



Really? When did that happen - did I miss the memo? Has anyone told Ford and VW?


That was my immediate thought too! My previous boss has twin football-playing sons and they've managed with a Golf and/or variety of Fiesta's right through their growing years! And not because they couldn't afford bigger cars - they just never saw the need.


Nice as they are as cars, unless people are smaller up north, I'd say doing a 5 hr drive in the back of a Golf isn't much fun, compared to the back of a Passat.

Ditto, packing for a camping holiday is a bit of a stretch.

Totally different if you're just doing local runs.


I meant to put in that post both of them topped 6 ft by age 13! (They're not identical twins)

They have a villa in South-East Spain and have driven there on at least two occasions that I know of in his Mk.6 Golf, with no reported issues. Well, none related to space anyway!  
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some pictures of the cars from earlier in the year, starting with the day the Cayman turned 10 - in the car park of Hitchin Priory hotel when I was contracting at Luton Airport:



The blue brothers:


How low?


Too bloody low to go in my garage - this V shaped slope at the entrance defeats it:


And with a Prescott shed on the spoiler:


Driven it 50 miles today - first time since Mid November!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Cayman GTS and an E90 M3 - I don't think there's a better line-up in the real world. Stunning.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A Cayman GTS and an E90 M3 - I don't think there's a better line-up in the real world. Stunning.


Except perhaps a Cayman GT4 and an M3 perhaps  
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A Cayman GTS and an E90 M3 - I don't think there's a better line-up in the real world. Stunning.


Except perhaps a Cayman GT4 and an M3 perhaps  


Perhaps!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Heresy maybe, but I think the GTS is probably better in the real world more of the time.  It would certainly go into my garage...
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Ooops ....I would take either of those Cayman's - not fussy!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been a straightforward motoring year for me. The C Max has not skipped a beat and is still far more fun to drive than it has any right to be. It will be the last car with raised rear seats that we buy now Lu is taller, I don't love going in the back when she decides she wants the front, but its got a few years with us yet.

The XFR has been superb. There are many days when I would not rather have been in anything else. It is so quick yet understated, fun to drive yet refined, and just so exuberant for a brand with such an old man image. 2016 was the year I got used to it's performance and on-tap queefability and made good use of both. It's a fantastic car and has also cost less to run than expected (though the 2 year warranty is up in the spring - that and the road tax will cost a fair bit!). I'd have another.

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