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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:14 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Quite a lot of light is thrown sideways too - the extra illumination was a definite advantage.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funnily enough, I found myself thinking only the other day that cornering lights would be quite useful when I turned off a main road into a country lane on the right that has a central kerb in its opening. The weather was filthy, the junction is unlit and I had to take care to spot the kerb. While my car has swivelling headlights it has no additional cornering lights. No foglights either.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 535d had its first Birthday on Sunday and had covered 25,250 miles in the 12 months.

I don't have a huge amount to add to the (huge!) amount I've written about it so far...other than...

It's fulfilled all my expectations and more, the performance still puts a big smile on my face and I'd order the same options again having used them for 12 months.  There may be a couple I'd add if I was ordering again now, but nothing significant or particularly easy to justify.  It's had one service at 19,000 miles, but hasn't required any other visits to the dealer, there isn't so much as a tiny rattle and it looks like brand new inside.  To be fair, I would have been really pissed off it that wasn't the case, but my Autotrader browsing shows that there are plenty of cars with less miles that don't look at all like new.   It will need new rear brakes in 3,000 miles and the fronts about 4,000 miles after that (will prob get them done together) and there is still plenty of life left in the tyres thanks to running the winter wheels.

12 month stats:

Mileage - 25,251
MPG - 37.3 (38.6 OBC)
Fuel - 3090 litres / £3528
Costs other than fuel/insurance - £0
Depreciation - A lot.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What options would you add?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there any left?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael wrote:
What options would you add?


I'd add the HUD and possibly surround view.  I would also think again about Adaptive Drive, but would probably make the same decision again, as it's £2,800.  I did seriously think about the Variable Damper Control (£985 iirc), but it increases the ride height to SE level, I couldn't find one to try and from what I've read, comfort is softer than SE (which I wouldn't like/use as the SE is too soft for me) and Sport is harder than the M Sport suspension.  

One option I would choose if it was available, is the ability to choose sport steering without the hair trigger throttle and 8th gear lock out you get in sport mode.  That's the only thing that occasionally annoys me really.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roadsterstu wrote:
Are there any left?


Not much!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael wrote:
What options would you add?


The badges
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I knew how these double posts arise!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnC wrote:
Michael wrote:
What options would you add?


The badges


Not even if you say it twice!  

I love the subtle look.   A grey estate with no badges doesn't get any attention at all, not until you open it up anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:
and 8th gear lock out you get in sport mode. †That's the only thing that occasionally annoys me really.


Mine doesn't have the 8 speed lockout in Sport if you are using the paddles. However it never stays in 8th if using the auto Sport mode - it might change into 8th but no doubt at speeds that are unattainable (legally) in the UK.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, using the paddles means you can select 8th, but I'd like to have the sport steering more often than I want to use the paddles. † Also, in sport mode with sport manual (or sport auto) as well, the gear changes are a bit †jerky, which I assume has been done to make it feel more 'sport', but it doesn't suit a big estate car!

Not exactly big issues.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, using the paddles means you can select 8th, but I'd like to have the sport steering more often. † Also, in sport mode with sport manual (or sport auto) as well, the gear changes are a bit †jerky, which I assume has been done to make it feel more 'sport', but it doesn't suit a big estate car!


I agree. The sport setting on the gearbox gives me smooth changes but only if I extend it to the limits. Earlier shifts at 3,500/4000rpm are a bit jerky.

Fully adjustable in all modes should be the default and I can't see how it is any more than a bit of programming.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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..... has been done to make it feel more 'sport', but it doesn't suit a big estate car!

Nothing wrong with a big, sports estate. Having driven a few 183/185BHP V70's, driving a large exec estate like a sports car brings a certain smile to the face
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:
Yes, using the paddles means you can select 8th, but I'd like to have the sport steering more often than I want to use the paddles. † Also, in sport mode with sport manual (or sport auto) as well, the gear changes are a bit †jerky, which I assume has been done to make it feel more 'sport', but it doesn't suit a big estate car!

Not exactly big issues.


Every time we talk about sport modes on auto boxes, I can't help feeling that the people who programme them are all 16 year old Fast & Furious fans and nobody else ever stops them doing their damage. I simply loathe the Sport auto setting on my car. Sport Dynamic is full manual. Otherwise Drive plus the paddle over-ride is great and I use that every day. Sport auto holds the gears way too long, locks out 6th most of the time, does not change up even if you back off, plus shunts and hunts. Hopeless.

All people really need from "Sport auto" is that it holds the gear longer in acceleration surely? Not that it becomes a rally car.....
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I followed a 535-something touring (no badge) earlier that had the LED headlights - I know this because it went by as I was waiting to leave a parking space. The spread of light looked good but I was disappointed that the driver was just using them like 'normal' lights, ie simply flicking main beam on and off rather than activating voodoo mode. Probably a case of RTFM...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Martin wrote:
Yes, using the paddles means you can select 8th, but I'd like to have the sport steering more often than I want to use the paddles. † Also, in sport mode with sport manual (or sport auto) as well, the gear changes are a bit †jerky, which I assume has been done to make it feel more 'sport', but it doesn't suit a big estate car!

Not exactly big issues.


Every time we talk about sport modes on auto boxes, I can't help feeling that the people who programme them are all 16 year old Fast & Furious fans and nobody else ever stops them doing their damage. I simply loathe the Sport auto setting on my car. Sport Dynamic is full manual. Otherwise Drive plus the paddle over-ride is great and I use that every day. Sport auto holds the gears way too long, locks out 6th most of the time, does not change up even if you back off, plus shunts and hunts. Hopeless.

All people really need from "Sport auto" is that it holds the gear longer in acceleration surely? Not that it becomes a rally car.....


I know what you mean and have experienced this myself in some cars, but I have found the sport mode in the Benz to be almost perfect, only occasionally needing a paddle to prompt an upshift.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PR wrote:
I followed a 535-something touring (no badge) earlier that had the LED headlights - I know this because it went by as I was waiting to leave a parking space. The spread of light looked good but I was disappointed that the driver was just using them like 'normal' lights, ie simply flicking main beam on and off rather than activating voodoo mode. Probably a case of RTFM...


What a waste.

I usually switch to paddles or sport when pressing on, but I left it in comfort tonight while going quite quickly and it figures out what you're up do and adapts accordingly.  I ended up with pretty close to Sport in terms of readiness to kick down a couple of gears, but it also went back into 8th eventually and I had the smoother changes.
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It's in for service today and have just received the health check video.  Surprised at how little the brake pads have worn, fronts have 10mm and the rears 8mm which is only 20% worn.  I was expecting to have to replace them soon, so that's a nice little bonus.  Big service today which includes brake fluid so it's going to take a while and will be the last one I don't have to pay for.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick question on Voodoo lights: I think it says in the manual that you're not supposed to use them when driving on the "wrong" side for the car (so for me in the UK, for you in the ROTEU).

Is that correct?
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I'm not completely sure about the current Xenons, but you will be fine as the 'auto high beam assist' on the earlier models just switches between dipped and high beam, they're not voodo lights.  The LEDs are OK too, as they're the same light unit for LHD/RHD and are camera/computer controlled.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:
†The LEDs are OK too, as they're the same light unit for LHD/RHD and are camera/computer controlled.


Mine are LEDs so great. I'll blind all and sundry.
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Big Blue wrote:
Quick question on Voodoo lights: I think it says in the manual that you're not supposed to use them when driving on the "wrong" side for the car (so for me in the UK, for you in the ROTEU).

Is that correct?


That's correct for the M135i.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Blue wrote:
Martin wrote:
†The LEDs are OK too, as they're the same light unit for LHD/RHD and are camera/computer controlled.


Mine are LEDs so great. I'll blind all and sundry.


They're not LEDs, they're adaptive xenons with LED DRLs and indicators.
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Martin wrote:


Mine are LEDs so great. I'll blind all and sundry.


They're not LEDs, they're adaptive xenons with LED DRLs and indicators.[/quote]

So they are.
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I was followed home  for about 10miles by an M5 with full voodoo lights. It was genuinely unnerving, sitting in a puddle of darkness whilst my entire peripheral vision was flood lit. Bloody fantastic.

I see lots of other Astras with vauxhalls version of Voodoo lighting and am very jealous.
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Have you got your Astra back yet?
Any idea what the final damage bill was, and what got changed?
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Had the Astra back for two weeks now. Seven weeks without it, over four of which was waiting for a rear screen. Repair bill was just over £4K. So pleased to have it back after the various courtesy cars, it might only be a low spec Astra powered by boat fuel, but it fits my needs (including low tax and fuel costs) very, very well.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giant wrote:
I was followed home †for about 10miles by an M5 with full voodoo lights. It was genuinely unnerving, sitting in a puddle of darkness whilst my entire peripheral vision was flood lit. Bloody fantastic.

I see lots of other Astras with vauxhalls version of Voodoo lighting and am very jealous.


Great stuff  

I've seen a few BMWs with voodoo lights, but never seen them in action.  It's the one good thing about the dark evenings, you get to appreciate them and they are fantastic lane clearers.
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Martin wrote:
Giant wrote:
I was followed home †for about 10miles by an M5 with full voodoo lights. It was genuinely unnerving, sitting in a puddle of darkness whilst my entire peripheral vision was flood lit. Bloody fantastic.

I see lots of other Astras with vauxhalls version of Voodoo lighting and am very jealous.


Great stuff †

I've seen a few BMWs with voodoo lights, but never seen them in action. †It's the one good thing about the dark evenings, you get to appreciate them and they are fantastic lane clearers.


I'm still waiting to see them in action. At this rate I will need to go and see Martin one evening.
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Always welcome Stu!
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It's in the garage at the moment because it needs new pads.  The good news is that it only needs pads, the discs are fine, but £237 is a bit steep for a couple of pads and sensors.  They've lasted 51,000 miles and the fronts are OK, so I'm not complaining too much.
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The 535d has just had its second Birthday. †Not a lot to say that hasn't already been said, it continues to be a great car.

It's done 53,000 miles, has used just over 6,300 litres of fuel (38.1mpg) at a cost of £7,000 (only £1,500 back for business miles) but other running costs have been pretty low. †Just 2 new tyres at 46k miles (33,500 miles on those tyres) at £410 and £750 for two services and new front pads, if you include the cost of the service pack.
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Just had a major service including an extra filter, as it's done nearly 60,000 miles. † £458 isn't bad revenue for less than 90mins in the workshop. †At least it's the first service I've had to pay for, the service pack was in the purchase price, so man maths made the first two services 'free'.
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It was the 400 quid air filter that did it.
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£400 pollen filter more like!
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I wonder how much Porsche get away with charging for a similar service?
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It's £475 on our Boxster, which is a reduced price because it's the old model, a new one would be £615 (both plus a brake fluid change if required). †911 pricing is the same as the Boxster until you move up to a Turbo/GT3, the Macan/Panamera/Cayenne are around the £500-600 mark depending on the engine.

Not that I've been looking.....
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Martin wrote:
Not that I've been looking.....


Of course not.
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How often are the services? If it's every 20k or-so then I could live with that, half that and it's more of a piss-take.

I guess it's part of running a big, heavy estate car!
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It's supposed to be variable, but has worked out to be broadly every 19k miles and the first two were £495 (for the 5yr/50k service pack), so not too bad.
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19K is about as good as it gets (or 2 years, whichever comes first). I have a bit more stop start than Martin I reckon and I am currently looking at about 15K between services.
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I just paid £590 to have one of W2.0's watches serviced, so stop complaining.
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That's why I bought an iWatch!
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I wasn't complaining, just pointing out it's a good earner, as is watch servicing, although that is a more highly skilled job.  However, looking at the bill, a bigger than expected chunk of cost was parts.
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How is it driving at 60k miles ? - is it starting to feel looser in places ?, any suspension bits in need of a refresh ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It still feels like it did when it was new, but I guess I wouldn't notice small changes.  There aren't any rattles and nothing has worn / broken / fallen off, but that's as you'd expect.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:
It still feels like it did when it was new, but I guess I wouldn't notice small changes. †There aren't any rattles and nothing has worn / broken / fallen off, but that's as you'd expect.


You've really looked after it and that must help. I think suspension wear is so incremental that you don't really notice it until you drive a new car (or change some parts) and then think "wow"!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite possibly.  I've not driven or ridden in a lower mileage 5 series, but have been in a few different cars and mine always feels much nicer when I drive it again, so it can't be that worn.

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