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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:26 pm    Post subject: BMW 535D M Sport Touring  Reply with quote

So, after 15 weeks, I collected my new car this morning.  

Nice handover at the dealership, the car was in a special bay in the showroom and I had a couple of welcome notices up in reception and the entracnce to the collection area.  I had a good look around, then signed all the paperwork and went outside to get a run through of the controls and all the options.  Unsurprisingly a lot of the settings and controls are similar to the 520d, so it was a simple process and also unsurprisingly, I knew a couple of things the salesman didn't!

There only mistake was not noticing it had the M Sport badges on the wings, but that was easily rectified!

I'm really pleased with the colour choice inside and out (love the contrast stiching) and have chosen some options that will make it even nicer to live with.  The Panoramic sunroof is fantastic, it lets in loads of light which is important with an all black interior and it’s beautifully engineered, when the cover is closed you wouldn’t know it didn’t have a solid roof.  The LED headlights look great.  When the DRL’s are off the shape of them and indicator position (across the top of the light rather than at the side) make the lights look slimmer and improve the look of the front by quite a margin.  When the DRL’s are on, the effect is enhanced and it looks great when the headlights are on dipped beam because you get all 4 headlights lit rather than the outer two rings (the inner ring is a cornering light on Xenon equipped cars).  Comfort access includes handfree opening and closing of the boot and is so easy to use

The interior is fantastic quality and looks and feels really modern.  The first thing that Lindsay said when we got home was how dated the Boxster looks inside now….oh dear….

I always run new cars in, so I can’t comment on how fast it goes in a straight line or around corners, but even on partial throttle and keeping it under 3,000rpm it’s pretty quick.  It’s so quiet, comfortable and refined driving at running in pace and the gearbox is brilliant, you really can’t feel it change gear in comfort mode and it always seems to do the right thing, I’ve not felt the need to use the paddles apart from just trying them out.  It will take a while to get used to journeys with an mpg figure starting with a 3, but it’s done 41mpg so far (terrible wind and rain all afternoon) and it did 47mpg on the run back from Buckingham.  I’m not going to worry about that though, as it should do 550+ miles to a tank which isn’t too bad.  We’ve done just over 200 miles today, as we had a hospital visit to do.  Not ideal as the weather was terrible, but it was good to get a decent run out.

There is some sort of witchcraft going on with the headlights!  The intelligent high beam is fascinating to watch and works exactly as per the demos you see online.  Not once did I blind anyone, even on twisty roads, or when someone turned right across the front of me and watching the dark patches move around blows your mind!  It gives you so much more extra light than you get with dipped beam, which is pretty impressive compared to other lights I’ve experienced.  When you’re on the dual carriageway they’re even better, giving you full beam on your side of the road all the time, until you catch someone up and even then, you still get most of the power.  

That’s probably enough for now!

I’ve only got exterior photos at the moment because we ended up having to get a move on to get to the hospital, interior shots will follow tomorrow, when I just might end up washing it!

Before anyone says anything, the salesman parked it there!!  He pulled it out of the handover bay which is just behind it.













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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very, very nice. The colour looks perfect and the lack of badging is tasteful. The LED lights sound like perfection, I've only experienced the adaptive technology on xenons and even then it was mind blowing. Congratulations and hope you enjoy it.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats. That looks excellent.

Is the rear privacy glass standard or could you have it with normal ?
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I believe that's part of the M Sport plus package, Andy.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hits the spot on so many levels, engine, spec, colour, sheer elegance. What's not to like.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gurney wrote:
Hits the spot on so many levels, engine, spec, colour, sheer elegance. What's not to like.


I haven't found anything yet!

Yes, the sun protection glass is part of the M Sport+ pack and the car would have been more expensive without it, because the pack price is cheaper than the two items I wanted (19" wheels and HK Speakers) and it's one of only a couple of options that has an impact on the GVF.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice. I really want a 535d Touring, but they're well out of my league right now.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's as nice as any current 5 series (F10?)  I've seen! I haven't seen another with the magic lights, are they a new option?
Very very nice, hope it gives you as many happy and fault free miles as your previous one.
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The LED lights were introduced just over a year ago, but they're really rare.  I've only seen one car with them and I've been really looking out for them. If you look on Autotrader there are a couple of M5s, but no normal F10/F11s with them fitted.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin, that looks lovely! Stealthy, subtle. Damn near perfect to my eyes. Enjoy!  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks close to perfection to me.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just looked on AT and there appear to be no others with LED headlights. Are they stupidly expensive or just badly advertised?

Looks great though and no matter how good your E60 was, just the step up to a 6cylinder engine makes it a worthwhile move, let alone the newer interior and options. Happy motoring.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dealers I spoke to don't seem to know much about them and don't push them as a result.  They are quite expensive, but I think they're decent value when you take everything into consideration.  Lindsay asked me how much there were when we we driving back and she thought they would have been more expensive.

They are very different to Xenons both in terms of light colour as well as distribution/pattern.

The engine is so much smoother and quieter when cold and at low revs than the 520d.
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Very nice, shame it sucks from the black pump.

I was followed by an X5 with LEDs the other day. They didn't appear to be a lot brighter than mine, but were noticeably bluer in colour. I think if I were in the market for a big German car I'd still opt for xenons. LEDs are definitely the future, but they've not caught up with HIDs yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks fantastic Martin, purposeful and understated - great choice.

The headlights sound brilliant as the YouTube video of them operating looks almost unbelievable, if they are that good then whatever they cost, worth every penny.
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I didn't pay much attention to the headlights when you were speccing the car, but having just watched the YouTube video of them operating they look unbelievably clever! If they work as the demo suggests I suspect you'll never buy another car without that technology! Perfect time of year to be trying then out, I'd be turning nocturnal just to be able to see them in action in every journey.
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Very nice, shame it sucks from the black pump.

I was followed by an X5 with LEDs the other day. They didn't appear to be a lot brighter than mine, but were noticeably bluer in colour. I think if I were in the market for a big German car I'd still opt for xenons. LEDs are definitely the future, but they've not caught up with HIDs yet.


Not really, I'm happy with the same power to weight and 50% more torque than I'd have got in a 535i and at least I've increased the cylinder count!  

Are you sure they were LEDs? Mine aren't blue at all, they're very white and when looking at them from the outside of the car, you'd never mistake them for anything else as they're so bright.

The Boxster has Adaptive Xenons which are very good, brighter than the MINI which had full fat Xenons and much brighter on main beam as its got a separate main beam light as well.  Even the upgraded xenons in the BMW only have one Xenon bulb.  The Boxster is a good base for comparison and initially the LEDs don't appear to be quite as bright because they don't have the clear beam cutoff and are much whiter.  However, the spread of light is wider and longer on dipped beam and you quickly realise they're a fair bit brighter and you get less reflection and better visibility is really poor conditions.  Being able to have main beam on all the time puts them into another league.  

My first impression is that they're well worth the extra over Xenons.
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Very, very nice. The colour looks perfect

Indeed... looks like Ford Ka strobe grey metallic  


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Wunderbar! Odd how I find a grey estate far more interesting than a blue saloon, must be an age thing. Oh and it's not quite completely badgeless, I can see some writing!
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I've just watched the BMW video on Youtube. I'd seen the Audi video before. I keep looking out for adaptive LED equipped cars and it would be interesting to follow one.
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Very nice, very understated. Twin scaffolding pipes at the back, no badging. Subtle.  

LED technology is coming on in leaps and bounds. The LED's I had on the S Class loaner were amazing, so to have them every day would be worth every penny.

Hospital visit eh? Anything you want to tell us Martin?
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Wunderbar! Odd how I find a grey estate far more interesting than a blue saloon, must be an age thing. Oh and it's not quite completely badgeless, I can see some writing!


The dealer sticker?  That's gone, I was going to ask them to take it off, but I'd already asked them to remove the M wing badges so I thought I'd do it myself.  I can't take the BMW badges off and the writing on the headlights is behind the plastic and can only be seen close up. I do think it's quite cool....

Lindsays dad is in hospital..it's not looking too promising unfortunately.

It's all clean again and has a layer of wax to try and keep it that way.  I've also got the winter wheels up to an acceptable level...i.e. Like new!

I'll post some interior pics later, Sunday lunch is calling!
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Does the writing in the headlight units light up as in the YouTube video, it's either nerdily cool or impossibly naff!
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Some more pictures.

Everything switched off.  It has the full black panel display, so all you see are the outer rings and dials.




Ignition on.  They're white during the day, but go orange at night.  Interestingly (or not!), that doesn't happen when the lights come on automatically, it has to be a bit darker and the central screen goes into night mode at the same time.






Close up of the steering wheel, which looks great (imo), feel lovely and has decent quality paddles too.




Really pleased I went with the 'Exclusive Stitching'




The tailgate window opens and the load cover powers up out of the way so you get good access, it then powers back down when you close it.




The tailgate is electric and opens/closes at a decent speed.  The load cover moves out of the way, but the best feature is the hands free open and close.  All you do is put your foot under the edge of the rear bumper and it opens, even if the car is locked.  Doing the same again closes it.




Some decent storage under the boot floor, which has a gas strut so glides up nicely.  It also has two large compartments either side of the boot.  The battery is under there somewhere, but I forgot to look.




The torque monster!  It fills the engine bay quite nicely.  Lots of interesting things under there as well, such as 'venetian blinds' behind the grille to make the car warm up more quickly.






Last picture.  The 18" winter wheels are going to be a fairly tight fit.  These are the front brakes, but the rears aren't that much smaller.  It's definately got bigger brakes than other 5 series I've seen.



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Martin wrote:
PhilD wrote:
Wunderbar! Odd how I find a grey estate far more interesting than a blue saloon, must be an age thing. Oh and it's not quite completely badgeless, I can see some writing!


The dealer sticker?  That's gone, I was going to ask them to take it off, but I'd already asked them to remove the M wing badges so I thought I'd do it myself.  I can't take the BMW badges off and the writing on the headlights is behind the plastic and can only be seen close up. I do think it's quite cool....



I was thinking of the headlights!   Can you get a BMW badge which is just roundel? Interior looks great. I've like that design of steering wheel since the Z8.
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Nice on the inside too. Can we see a pic of the panoramic roof?

Couple of things - does the car know it's your foot waving under the bumper if it opens the tailgate even with the car locked?    I assume the key must be in a certain proximity? Weirdly I discovered last night that you can restart our X1 at work after you have removed the key from the slot. The button still starts it....!!!

Just a security hint - maybe edit/blur out the location on your photos, seeing as these pics are viewable to the whole web. Just a thought.
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Thanks, hadn't noticed the street name, have deleted that picture.  The key needs to be close to the tailgate, it's the same with the doors as it has full keyless entry and start.

I'll get a picture of the roof this week.

We went out to a nice country pub after lunch, any excuse for a drive and to test out the headlights again! It's even easier to see them working in he dry, they really do work exactly as they do in the You Tube video.  When you pull out to overtake you get even more light down the side of the car.  Really clever too, they aren't fooled by very bright reflections off road signs and can track a number of different cars.

Thankfully the text on the side of the lights doesn't light up as it does on the 7 series.


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..also interesting to see that the fuel gauge has "Diesel" printed in it.... never seen a car before with such an easy way to remind you what fuel to use!

I once requested a Scenic diesel as a loan car when my old Scenic was being worked on, and as usual the low fuel light came on as soon as I started it.  I didn't think it sounded very diesely, so filled it with petrol at the first garage I came to (thank goodness as it was a petrol-engined car, but there were no outward signs on the car, inside of the fuel filler or key fob to tell you what fuel to use)
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That interior looks a very nice place to be. Just a few bits of dark stained wood from perfection...  
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Martin wrote:
Lindsays dad is in hospital..it's not looking too promising unfortunately.


Sorry to hear that Martin. I feel a bit stupid now for my glib remark earlier re "hospital appointments" when you've just bought an estate car....  

I like that the dials don't go into night mode when the headlights come on in daylight. Very cool.
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That interior looks a very nice place to be. Just a few bits of dark stained wood from perfection...  


What, like my Dads 5 series?    

(or the 520d of course... )

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Those interior shots are very impressive. There's a lot of little details that just show what a quality product it is. The boot floor springs to mind. Manufacturers have put additional storage beneath the floor for a while now but it never crossed my mind to expect them to supply a gas strut for easy lifting big it's a really good idea.

Sorry to hear about Lindsay's dad.
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I was waiting for the interior pics. That does look like a very nice place to spend time. I loved the automatic electric load blind in the Merc - very useful.
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Martin wrote:
Thanks, hadn't noticed the street name, have deleted that picture.  The key needs to be close to the tailgate, it's the same with the doors as it has full keyless entry and start.

I'll get a picture of the roof this week.

We went out to a nice country pub after lunch, any excuse for a drive and to test out the headlights again! It's even easier to see them working in he dry, they really do work exactly as they do in the You Tube video.  When you pull out to overtake you get even more light down the side of the car.  Really clever too, they aren't fooled by very bright reflections off road signs and can track a number of different cars.

Thankfully the text on the side of the lights doesn't light up as it does on the 7 series.


I wonder if you would notice the lights if you were being followed. Fascinating technology and utterly, utterly cool!

Can I also pass on my best wishes for Lindsey's dad.
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Those interior shots are very impressive. There's a lot of little details that just show what a quality product it is. The boot floor springs to mind. Manufacturers have put additional storage beneath the floor for a while now but it never crossed my mind to expect them to supply a gas strut for easy lifting big it's a really good idea.

Sorry to hear about Lindsay's dad.


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Those interior shots are very impressive. There's a lot of little details that just show what a quality product it is. The boot floor springs to mind. Manufacturers have put additional storage beneath the floor for a while now but it never crossed my mind to expect them to supply a gas strut for easy lifting big it's a really good idea.

Sorry to hear about Lindsay's dad.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giant wrote:
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Those interior shots are very impressive. There's a lot of little details that just show what a quality product it is. The boot floor springs to mind. Manufacturers have put additional storage beneath the floor for a while now but it never crossed my mind to expect them to supply a gas strut for easy lifting big it's a really good idea.

Sorry to hear about Lindsay's dad.


My 2003 BMW engineered MG ZT-T had a gas strut.


Indeed, yes. The gas strut, the split tailgate, the retracting load cover and pull up load net. All recognisable and that's before you get to the HVAC system, the multi link suspension and the 2.0 diesel engine. An outstandingly good and much under rated car.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of interest, what options didn't you tick?

Also, what sized wheels can a 5 be specced up to? Yours look perfect sized, but there still seems plenty of room in those arches should you have wished to go OTT.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That does look very nice indeed - must admit, it puts my Legacy to shame in many respects. Except the fuel!

Incidentally, when did 5's gain wipers which wipe the "right" way? Can't recall ever seeing that before the F10.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely car Martin. The interior is so much more together than the tablet on a dash versions they are coming up with now. You might find yourself holding on to this one for a very long time.
All the 35 brakes are larger and provide great reassuring stopping power. An added advantage I have found is that with the large brakes, you don't go through pads, nor do the discs wear anything like as much as the smaller versions on lesser cars.
I love the idea of those adaptive headlights. I've never even considered these due to the price but they might just be the next must have item!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wonder if you would notice the lights if you were being followed. Fascinating technology and utterly, utterly cool!

I think you’d see the light changing down the side of the car, but I’ll set up an experiment with the Boxster at some point!

Giant wrote:
Out of interest, what options didn't you tick?

Also, what sized wheels can a 5 be specced up to? Yours look perfect sized, but there still seems plenty of room in those arches should you have wished to go OTT.


Quite a few things actually, such as comfort seats, leather dashboard, self parking, surround view cameras, head up display, night vision, active cruise, adaptive dampers, driving assistant (lane assist etc), ventilated/massage seats, 4 zone climate, B&O speakers, TV, rear screens.  There’s not much I’d go for even with an unlimited budget, probably only the head up display.

The 19” wheels are the largest you can get from the factory, but there’s a 20” wheel you can have as an accessory.

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I love the idea of those adaptive headlights. I've never even considered these due to the price but they might just be the next must have item!


I’m convinced they’re a must have item now.  It means you’ll have to have a 4 rather than 3 series!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wanted to say thanks for all the positive comments. I know it isn’t what everyone would choose, but you’ve all been very kind!  

Also, thanks for the best wishes, we’ve got everything crossed that he’ll get through this but it’s not looking great….


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's lovely,like the colour and spec..the stitching was a good call.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loving that. I was going to pick the same colour for my next one (but with red leather interior), but with a change of job coming up it looks like I won't get the chance.
I've loved having the Touring - it has proved useful on so many occasions, not least the split tailgate which allows us to park up with the dog in the back and leave the rear glass up for him so he can look out and get plenty of fresh air. Trips to IKEA are also less of a chore!

(I'd have left the M Sport badges on though, they look good with that colour).
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've kept the badges, want to make me an offer?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As well as the adaptive LED lights one of the things I'd really like to try is the spotlight option. It works with the night vision and directs the fog lamp, like a spotlight, at objects it detects which are out your vision - things like unlit cyclists etc. Driving around on rural roads at this time of year really does make you appreciate good illumination.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin wrote:

Giant wrote:
Out of interest, what options didn't you tick?


Quite a few things actually, such as comfort seats, leather dashboard, self parking, surround view cameras, head up display, night vision, active cruise, adaptive dampers, driving assistant (lane assist etc), ventilated/massage seats, 4 zone climate, B&O speakers, TV, rear screens.  


I'd add fancy seats, leather dash, HUD and night vision and the TV set up. I'm fairly sure I'd add 50% to the price if I ever specced a car, what did you manage?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks amazing - can I buy it off you in a couple of years?

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