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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:23 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

I know what you mean.  Can't say I care for the watch section either.  Often the average price is north of £10k, which I doubt has much relevance to the average evo reader.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know what you mean.  Can't say I care for the watch section either.  Often the average price is north of £10k, which I doubt has much relevance to the average evo reader.


As I love watches* almost as much as cars I like it, but know what you mean. The "today I'm wearing" bit is hilarious as the picture often doesn't match the text making you wonder if it's basically an advert or that's all they could find on a google search, and a few months ago some designer chap said "I can't be without my XYZ and I ALWAYS wear it ...except today as I left it in the hotel"

*not really sure why!
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I think that's why I don't like it - I do like watches, but not the overpriced trophy ones that seem to feature there too often.
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From this week's Autocar - the letter of the week, no less...

'After owning more than 50 cars in my 68 years on the planet, I thought readers might be interested in my latest collection: Bentley W12 GTC for special occasions, Porsche Boxster S for open top fun and exhilaration and BMW i3 for saving the planet.  I deeply love them all for different reasons, and get a huge kick from driving them.  At the moment I can't think of a better mix of posh, fun and latest tech.'

I don't know whether I am being uncharitable, but all I can think is thanks for sharing, Martin A. Morris.
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I struggle to find Mr. smith's collection of interest despite two of those cars being interesting to me - maybe it's not what you say but how you say it
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I don't know whether I am being uncharitable, but all I can think is thanks for sharing, Martin A. Morris.


You're being very charitable. All I thought was "stupid wanker". And why that was the letter of the week will forever remain a mystery.
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I was at the Porsche Experience centre last week learnig how to drive my new Cayman in the spirit with which I was designed, apologies if I've dropped my car into the conversation Twelfth.

As I was having lunch, awesome lunch by the way, Jethro Bovingdon sat at the next table. I introduced myself as a bit of an Evo fan and progressed to bore the crap out of him for 10 minutes on cars and life. Anyway, what a lovely chap. He actually looked interested in my wittering on and had a good chat about his 996 and my Cayman. Interestingly when I mentioned I was on the Evo Triangle a couple of weeks earlier and he said to give it a bit of a wide berth as the Police were cracking down due to the number of bikers that were now up there. A shame as the roads are fabulous.
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I was at the Porsche Experience centre last week learnig how to drive my new Cayman in the spirit with which I was designed, apologies if I've dropped my car into the conversation Twelfth.


Nowt wrong with that, it's completely in context and appropriate.  I'm not sure that writing a letter for the perusal of a bunch of complete strangers qualifies on either count, though.  That just makes the writer look smug and self-satisfied, and hiding immodesty beneath the pretence of enthusiasm.  To me, at least.
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But because they're a bunch of strangers it's hardly showing off, is it?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that the whole letter or an extract?

I don't understand why anyone would feel the need to write in anyway, but less so without a decent / relevant point to make about something in the magazine.
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Martin wrote:
Is that the whole letter or an extract?

I don't understand why anyone would feel the need to write in anyway, but less so without a decent / relevant point to make about something in the magazine.


If that's the whole letter it either wins this game or is disqualified as there is not even an attempt to pretend they are talking about something else!
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I was at the Porsche Experience centre last week learnig how to drive my new Cayman in the spirit with which I was designed, apologies if I've dropped my car into the conversation Twelfth.

As I was having lunch, awesome lunch by the way, Jethro Bovingdon sat at the next table. I introduced myself as a bit of an Evo fan and progressed to bore the crap out of him for 10 minutes on cars and life. Anyway, what a lovely chap. He actually looked interested in my wittering on and had a good chat about his 996 and my Cayman. Interestingly when I mentioned I was on the Evo Triangle a couple of weeks earlier and he said to give it a bit of a wide berth as the Police were cracking down due to the number of bikers that were now up there. A shame as the roads are fabulous.


Please send is in to the letters page at Evo!
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Is that the whole letter or an extract?

I don't understand why anyone would feel the need to write in anyway, but less so without a decent / relevant point to make about something in the magazine.


Whole 'letter'!
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Well, I'm not particularly interested in his collection, but it might have been different if he had something interesting to say about them.   He must have a lot of time in his hands.  Maybe he should join a car forum?
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I was at the Porsche Experience centre last week learning how to drive my new Cayman in the spirit with which I was designed.


Freudian slip?
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As I was only saying to the Queen last week, there are an awful lot of namedroppers around.....
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CAR mag October:-

I agree with the comments about the current range of M Cars being unworthy of the badge. The first thing I did when I got my X6M was remove the badges.......

Tosser

For the price of that piece of hideousness he could've bought a top of the range X6 diesel (probably as fast in 99% of situations) and had enough left over for what he probably thinks is a real M car.

Double tosser  
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Some guy called Hendrie banging on about his Citroen in this week's Autocar (picture included)!
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Some guy called Hendrie banging on about his Citroen in this week's Autocar (picture included)!


I'll stop by Smiths for a butchers tomorrow. Glad to here he's still got it (assuming it is the CX he's talking about)
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Yup, it's got "the plate" on it in the photo.......
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'Courtesy' of Andrew Roberts, this week's Autocar letters page:

'My wife and I have three cars each that cover the whole spectrum of driving needs.  I have a Tesla P85DL as a daily driver, which is quick across country in Ludicrous mode, an Aston Martin DB9 for special occasions and a Jaguar E-Type roadster V12 S3 for when the sun shines or popping down to Le Mans Classic.

My wife uses a Mercedes ML for carting the dog about, a Porsche 911 (996) which has been in the family since new, and a Citroen 2CV which again has been with us since 1974.

What is noticeable is how our fuel bills have dropped since the Tesla: 14,000 miles in 9 months at a cost of £400 in increased electricity use at home.  All are on the road throughout the year, the 2CV being particularly good in the snow.


How much do I not want to meet him...

I was also surprised by a chap who describes his Discovery as 'nothing comes near it for comfort, physical presence, capability, off-the-mark acceleration and just pure, unadulterated driving pleasure.'  What?!
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Just popped this off, and air it here as the chances of it being aired there are, I suspect, rather slim!


Good old British reserve!

The letters page over the last few weeks has made me wonder what happened to the famed British modesty.  It now seems full of people writing in to talk in (barely) coded terms about how much their car collections cost - it's like being invaded by a Cheshire golf club.

Me?  I have one of Senna's F1 cars, Thrust SSC and a Saturn V for when the roads are busy.  Actually I don't.  I have a decade-old RS4 (which the current convention means I must stress was bought from new) as a daily driver, an A3 (which was not) and is largely adapted to the role of dogs' conveyance, and the third?  Shanks's Pony.  Almost zero emissions, depending upon when I last had a curry, anyway...
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I know we disagree on the content of the letters page but if you don't get letter of the week for that, its a fix.
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Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Good old British reserve!

The letters page over the last few weeks has made me wonder what happened to the famed British modesty.  It now seems full of people writing in to talk in (barely) coded terms about how much their car collections cost - it's like being invaded by a Cheshire golf club..


You could not have said it better.
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Twelfth Monkey wrote:
'Courtesy' of Andrew Roberts, this week's Autocar letters page:

'My wife and I have three cars each that cover the whole spectrum of driving needs.  I have a Tesla P85DL as a daily driver, which is quick across country in Ludicrous mode, an Aston Martin DB9 for special occasions and a Jaguar E-Type roadster V12 S3 for when the sun shines or popping down to Le Mans Classic.

My wife uses a Mercedes ML for carting the dog about, a Porsche 911 (996) which has been in the family since new, and a Citroen 2CV which again has been with us since 1974.

What is noticeable is how our fuel bills have dropped since the Tesla: 14,000 miles in 9 months at a cost of £400 in increased electricity use at home.  All are on the road throughout the year, the 2CV being particularly good in the snow.


How much do I not want to meet him...



"Dear Autocar. I have bought an electric car and my fuel costs have come down"

In other news the sun came up this morning and there's good probability it will go down again at some point later today.
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...and the third?  Shanks's Pony.  Almost zero emissions, depending upon when I last had a curry, anyway...


LOL ! I do hope that it gets published
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I have a decade-old RS4 (which the current convention means I must stress was bought from new) ...

Not good enough - you have to have been the first on the list at your dealer. Though given the timescale, you possible were ...
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Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Some guy called Hendrie banging on about his Citroen in this week's Autocar (picture included)!


I'll stop by Smiths for a butchers tomorrow. Glad to here he's still got it (assuming it is the CX he's talking about)


He's bought it back.
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Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Some guy called Hendrie banging on about his Citroen in this week's Autocar (picture included)!


I'll stop by Smiths for a butchers tomorrow. Glad to here he's still got it (assuming it is the CX he's talking about)


He's bought it back.


I wasn't aware he's sold it.
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He did, but now he has it back and just completed a European honeymoon in it.
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Seen on Twitter that Catchpole is quitting EVO. If Meaden goes as well there will hardly anyone worth reading (aside from Dario's column).
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Seen on Twitter that Catchpole is quitting EVO. If Meaden goes as well there will hardly anyone worth reading (aside from Dario's column).


Where is he off to? and is Meaden really going? Nick is also Trotting off (no great loss) so it will be the Bov and mini Bov show. Hopefully they will replace them with someone decent.
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Seen on Twitter that Catchpole is quitting EVO. If Meaden goes as well there will hardly anyone worth reading (aside from Dario's column).


Where is he off to? and is Meaden really going? Nick is also Trotting off (no great loss) so it will be the Bov and mini Bov show. Hopefully they will replace them with someone decent.


He's joining Drivetribe or somesuch. Don't know about Meaden, my comment meant that IF he left there'd be no one left to read.
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Bov and Meaden are gone as well, I'm led to believe.
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And editor Hunter Skipworth (great name). Five leaving at once hints loudly at a bigger story.
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Sounds serious ,although personally I found it difficult to distinguish between who wrote what article ,and only the fact I watch evo you tube allowed me to realise there were actually different people writing the articles .
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And editor Hunter Skipworth (great name). Five leaving at once hints loudly at a bigger story.


Except there'll be no one around to write it!
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Perhaps Porsche have said they aren't producing any new models for 12 months and they've got nothing else left to write about (now that they've done the McLaren grand test!)?  
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Not even a new tyre compound option on the 991 GT whatever that requires 10 pages of driving and a special on the history of the GT2/3/RS with a first drive of an obscure spec Cayenne
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I'm sure Singer or someone similar will be releasing another vastly expensive retro pastiche mod of a 911 sometime soon but then maybe all the 911 fans are the ones departing.
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Spoiler alert for anyone buying the Crimbo edition then.
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Well, having read most of the newest EVO (Car of the year edition) I think it's time for a change.

I'm not sure how they could recommend, for example, the M4 GTS so highly without taking account of the readership - they make the point that it gave several of them a fright and they're professional drivers.
Also what's the point of including the supercars when they're limited edition and in the back of the mag they report that a 911R went for £400k+ at auction, 3 times the list price.
Etc, etc, etc.

I should change sub to something more sedate  
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Not a lot that appeals in terms of the monthlies, though?
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Tim
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No not really. I buy CAR most months but don't feel like taking out a sub, I've mentioned Octane elsewhere and the classic mags only appeal occasionally.

I do, however, like planes too so might consider a sub to something like 'Jets' or Flypast.

I'll probably stick with EVO for a bit longer to see what changes they make.
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Frank Bullitt
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me there seems to be a general lack of quality journalism - I've made no secret that CAR is my preferred monthly but even so some of the contributors are at best poor, invariably when there is an attempt to be youthful.

To be honest, Modern Classics is probably the best-written of the lot but clearly it has a limited scope.

I miss CAR of 20 years ago.
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Tim
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frank Bullitt wrote:
To be honest, Modern Classics is probably the best-written of the lot but clearly it has a limited scope.

I miss CAR of 20 years ago.


+1, or even better from 30 years ago.

I've not looked at Modern Classics but might see if I can track one down, it sounds like something I'm looking for - classics of the 60s and earlier don't interest me whereas things from my youth do.
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TreVoR
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Modern Classics - so much so that I have subscribed.  I also have LRO International and Land Rover Monthly on subs.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TreVoR wrote:
I also have LRO International and Land Rover Monthly on subs.


Is that like a support group for the afflicted  
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim wrote:
TreVoR wrote:
I also have LRO International and Land Rover Monthly on subs.


Is that like a support group for the afflicted  


Something like that!  There are people who have bought a lot worse than me, it has to be said.

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