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Pkh72
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| Clunes wrote: | The figures for the ST may well be down to the Rolling Road but I think both cars were tested on the same rollers (although not sure if it was the same time) which still shows how strong the Mountune setup is in comparison to the RS (more torque)
There are loads of people remapping the 2.5T in the ST and claiming approx 260Bhp and 295lb ft with a simple chip/remap e.g. Code Red, Bluefin, Dreamscience, AMD and so on for about £400 and the Mountune goes further so I wouldn't be surprised if the others are optimistic or Mountune conservative.
Clearly the main difference the Mountune brings has to be the intercooler upgrade which, even if it doesn't bring gains on the rolling road, should definitely ensure those figures are valid no matter what driving you are doing whereas many cars running new maps with the standard cooler probably get heat soak.
Please see if you can find out how seriously they are investigating the Mondeo 2.5T. I know the intercooler is not a direct fit and the ECU is different but would be interested to know if they are paying lip service to those asking or are actually thinking about bringing something to market.
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I'll try to remember to ask for you.
Off on a tangent - I have read that Mountune will be doing an upgrade for the Mk2 RS but this one won't be covered by the Ford warranty. I wonder if the RS's version of the engine is closer to it's limits, even with the changes they have made to it. |
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Clunes
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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So...
Did you get the Mountune kit fitted yet (it was today wasn't it?)
Hope it's going well and your out enjoying it to the full
O. |
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"him"
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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I heard it only made 4 more BHP, but 140 more torques...
(but only when it rains)
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| "him" wrote: | I heard it only made 4 more BHP, but 140 more torques...
(but only when it rains) |
Sounds like the perfect engine for the new Not Noble. |
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Pkh72
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| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| Clunes wrote: | So...
Did you get the Mountune kit fitted yet (it was today wasn't it?)
Hope it's going well and your out enjoying it to the full
O. |
I've just put a post in the Your Cars section.
It's everything i hoped it would be.
I asked about whether there were any rumblings about a kit for the Mondeo but the chap i spoke to (i think it was the gaffer and he appeared to know what he was talking about) said he hadn't heard of anything coming from Mountune so far.
He suggested trying something like a Dream Science remap, they have a good reputation but i have no knowledge of the Mondeo scene, as it were. |
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Gooner
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| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | | Clunes wrote: | | There are loads of people remapping the 2.5T in the ST and claiming approx 260Bhp and 295lb ft with a simple chip/remap ... |
Hardly surprising - Volvo having been getting much bigger outputs than the ST from that engine for years. |
And the Focus RS gets 300 out of it too don't forget.
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Clunes
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| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Very true - but not with a sub-£400 chip/remap
I am still running in my car and am happyto wait to see if Mountune offer an upgrade as I would prefer to spend £1k on them sorting the fundamental weakness (intercooler) and get the guaranteed performance and warranty it offers than half that on a chip about which little is known/proven. |
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Guitar Zero
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| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:31 am Post subject: |
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http://www.fordmondeo.org/forum/s...818327/pid/1838135/post/last/m/1/
More than a few people are enquiring about Mountune conversions for Mondo - from the last reply it would appear it is officially on Mountune's radar.
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Guitar Zero
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| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:36 am Post subject: |
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http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/showdetails.php?id=50
s-max uprated intercooler - I wonder if this will fit Mondeo ?
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Clunes
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:52 am Post subject: |
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I got a similar response from Mountune a few weeks ago (and posted the penultimate post on the thread you linked)
I'm happy to wait a bit - the car isn't even run in yet and I don't have that kinda money kicking about at the moment as most is being set aside for next years wedding/honeymoon etc but still v.interested to find out :) |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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| Gurney wrote: | Great new EVO issue 137. Seems the Panamera Turbo really is hamstrung by that air suspension, good news for the XFR and QP in this group test.
Oh and Fiat's MultiAir engine is the greatest advance in engine technology since Mercedes fitted fuel injection to Me109's.
And, I want/need an Artega.
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Just read this - interesting that their Panacotta/XFR/QP test comes to the exact opposite conclusion to Autocar's. My own experience of the Quattroporte is certainly closer to EVO's.
As to the Artega, you know how one detail can jar so much it spoils the rest of the car? For me, it's the generic automatic gear lever, that would look a bit crap on a ten-year old Chevrolet Cavalier, so on an 80k supercar is completely awful and unacceptable. I know it's a VW part, but that's no excuse - VW should do better as well. Compare and contrast with the new BMW auto-selector, or the lovely old Mercedes one with the stepped gate. |
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Gurney
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | | Gurney wrote: | Great new EVO issue 137. Seems the Panamera Turbo really is hamstrung by that air suspension, good news for the XFR and QP in this group test.
Oh and Fiat's MultiAir engine is the greatest advance in engine technology since Mercedes fitted fuel injection to Me109's.
And, I want/need an Artega.
In Orange. |
Just read this - interesting that their Panacotta/XFR/QP test comes to the exact opposite conclusion to Autocar's. My own experience of the Quattroporte is certainly closer to EVO's.
As to the Artega, you know how one detail can jar so much it spoils the rest of the car? For me, it's the generic automatic gear lever, that would look a bit crap on a ten-year old Chevrolet Cavalier, so on an 80k supercar is completely awful and unacceptable. I know it's a VW part, but that's no excuse - VW should do better as well. Compare and contrast with the new BMW auto-selector, or the lovely old Mercedes one with the stepped gate. |
The Autocar QP test goes contrary to the Top Gear one too, I have never heard that the QP understeers in such a dramatic fashion in any test - ever.
Anyway, make mine a QP, with the QP's engine + MultiAir and the Pandemoniums interior, job done.
Re the Artega gearshift, well now you mention it i have to concede it does look naff. Like the new BMW shift, very F18 joystick.
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Gurney wrote: | | Like the new BMW shift, very F18 joystick. |
Nice to use as well. |
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DaveGibson
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Gurney wrote: | | ...... Like the new BMW shift, very F18 joystick. |
Does it steer the car as well?  |
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