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Eff One Petrolhead
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Just watched the video of the Evora at Goodwood, with Sutcliffe driving. What struck me was the noise. Not conclusive due to the limitations of the recording, but it to me it sounds pretty tasty from inside the cabin. _________________ "Racing is life. Everything before and after is just waiting." Steve McQueen |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| BeN wrote: | | I will say one thing: There is a reason why they are magazine journos. Sutcliffe's drone is such a bore. Some people really aren't meant to be on camera. |
And watching that Panamera video, I was ready to thump him if he said "Porsh" once more ...
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Eff One Petrolhead
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | And watching that Panamera video, I was ready to thump him if he said "Porsh" once more ...
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Why? That's how the spelling is pronounced in English. I'm sure BMW isn't pronounced bee-em-double-you in Germany either.
Personally I'd feel a bit of a cock pronouncing Porsche 'Porsha' in the UK. _________________ "Racing is life. Everything before and after is just waiting." Steve McQueen |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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I don't agree - it's originally someone's name, after all. And saying "Porsh" to me is just the worst kind of faux-blokeishness; the sadly too typical habit of pretending to be dumber than one really is, to appear more "down to earth", whatever that means. It's like people who say "them" instead of "those" even though they know it's incorrect.
Sorry - not having a go at you, it's just one of my pet hates ...  |
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Eff One Petrolhead
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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It's just what falls naturally to the tongue. Nobody in the UK pronounces Peugeot or Renault properly either - and would get some strange looks if they did.
I almost never hear Porsche pronounced in the original, German way - and when a Porsche salesman did, it sounded oddly pretentious to my ears. I have no rational explanation for that.
As to the grammar - saying 'them' instead of 'those' when you know better? Are there people that actually do that?! _________________ "Racing is life. Everything before and after is just waiting." Steve McQueen |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Eff One wrote: | | As to the grammar - saying 'them' instead of 'those' when you know better? Are there people that actually do that?! |
Maybe I'm being charitable assuming they do know better ... though there is a football columnist on the BBC website who does it all the time.
Spot on about Peugeot, or Pugh-jot as I believe it's sometimes called. |
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Edited as double keypress 
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Turbonutter Petrolhead
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Eff One wrote: | | Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | And watching that Panamera video, I was ready to thump him if he said "Porsh" once more ...
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Why? That's how the spelling is pronounced in English. I'm sure BMW isn't pronounced bee-em-double-you in Germany either.
Personally I'd feel a bit of a cock pronouncing Porsche 'Porsha' in the UK. |
Isn't BMW pronounced Bay-emm-Vay in Germany?
My wife has a friend whose name is pronounced 'Porsha'. She is quite tasty as well so it makes you feel a bit expensive when you say her name  |
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Presumably spelt Portia like the character in Merchant of Venice? |
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote: | | Presumably spelt Portia like the character in Merchant of Venice? |
I guess so |
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"him" Turbocharged
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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We should start a thread on this, and perhaps phonetically spell how we pronounce the marques.
Ford Ka for example, I say as KAH, whereas Ford salesmen locally refer to it as the "Kay ay".
Renault = Reno (I never pronounce the 't')
Citroen = Sitch ren
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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Propellorhead
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| "him" wrote: | Renault = Reno (I never pronounce the 't')
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Which is correct, so you're not an oik. I also say "Kah" for Ford's little 'un.
While we're on the subject, can't believe how many people pronounce German tuner Hartge as "Hartage", as in "Arnage", whereas it should be Hart-ger. |
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Eff One wrote: | | As to the grammar - saying 'them' instead of 'those' when you know better? Are there people (that) who actually do that?! |
I guess it depends on whether you did German at school. People who say 'Porsh' annoy me intensely. As far as I'm concerned, it's ignorant and lacks respect because, as Nick says, it's someone's name.
| "him" wrote: | | Citroen = Sitch ren ...... |
Losing the accent over the 'e' doesn't help but it's Sit-ro-en. |
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Eff One Petrolhead
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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The Evora that makes my heart beat a bit faster is the Type 124 racer:
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| The Evora wins CAR mag's Car of The Year contest as well. |
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Eff One Petrolhead
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Tasty... incidentally, Drive the Deal are offering them at £2k off... so my car (2 seater, Sports spec, Ardent Red) comes in at £47,289.
http://www.drivethedeal.com/buy-a-new-car/lotus/evora+coupe _________________ "Racing is life. Everything before and after is just waiting." Steve McQueen |
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