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Chocy Rocky

Your motoring year.

After a rather eventful year, I reckon I have probably missed a few (car) comings and going, but fear not fellow forum cousins, now is your chance to let it all out.


For me it started with my trusted Black GTI, I just felt it was time to change and maybe get something with some fewer miles and that was a bit cheaper to run
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So after selling the Golf to  lovely lady fae Aberdeen... I bought this.

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A 2010 A3 Sportback 2.0TDI S-line and it was lovely in the time I had it, not as good as the GTI to drive but a great ownership experience. Unfortunately, I had to sell it to free up some cash, after I switched careers.

So, for a measly £1700 I bought this
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Yes only a little Ford Fiesta 1.4 but what a good little car. Reliable and the steering had that lovely Ford feel that they do so well. The car stayed for 9 months and was exactly what I needed...but, you know what it's like.
We don't judge people on what they drive but I don't think a Grandad blue Fiesta cuts it, so with funds a little freer, it was time for the forth change of the year.

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Probably fairly predictable but such a good all round car. This one has a full VW service history and has been well looked after. Can't argue for £4500, plus it came with a tank of fuel, just as well since I went to Shrewsbury on Tuesday to collect it, 260 miles from Edinburgh FYI.

My other motoring highlight is gaining my PCV driving licence, I think it has probably made me a better overall driver.

So, what about you? What's changed and what do you think will change soon?
Boxer6

How does Kyle like getting in the back of the 3-door then?

This year, really nothing much at all for me. No changes of car either happened or planned, only some biggish bills for stupid little things!  

ETA - the Legacy turned over 100K miles - but I think you knew that!

Maybe next year? Who knows.

Congrats (again) on the PCV matey.  
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Do you really want to know more than the Ka misbehaving itself in Jan/Feb, resulting in a loan Fiesta whilst the faulty sensor was being diagnosed and replaced, resulting in me chopping the PCP in early to get an Ecoboost Fiesta in its place?

The PCP on I 5UMO runs out in the middle of 2017 and I currently reckon that I'll end up buying it outright as I can't think of anything I'd like to replace it with and can afford.  Oh, I got to drop the rear of the headlining to replace the roof aerial after a bit of an incident with an unusual load on some Thule roofbars that I bought - great bars but crap instructions on how to set them up and fit them.

I got to drive the V70 after dad passed away, and took it for its MoT and a service.

Also contributed to repairs on Boris after elder daughter's car got assaulted in Nottingham, and bought 2 new rear tyres for younger daughter's Fiesta, which she now hopes to change in 2017.

Other than a long, shared drive in a Rabid Skoda for a business trip, it's been a bit of a boring motoring year for me; I didn't even get to drive the CapturD much
Big Blue

In April I sold Die Schreibmaschine for £250 less than I paid in January 2014.

I then bought the Gorilla, having found it on AutoScout24 (kind of the German Autotrader), flown to Munich to rent a DS3 to drive to Dachau to view it (taking in the Concentration Camp as a day trip), stayed with my Stepbrother in Ingolstadt, flew out again and drove it home.

I finally did the Ron Haslam Superbike school and next year it looks like we're (RAC fewer than four group) are doing the California Superbike school at Brands.

The year started with a mild January which was good as I hadn't ridden the Black Whanger since my accident on July 28th 2015. It's still a great bike and only an MV Agusta is piquing my interest as a replacement which is fine whilst I have an underground car park space at work but the next contract might not have....

Otherwise rental cars have been a shit Astra, a DS3, a Clio and a Grand French people carrier. Sportwise, snuck a day trip to the Czech MotoGP and Cal Crutchlow won it. Nothing like being in Central Europe watching your fellow countryman win a sporting event to make you feel patriotic. Went to a James Hunt memorial dinner at the RAC and chatted to Freddie, who I met last year at the BRDC, missed going to see John McGuinness get a Club award and swore a lot and thought this years F1 was the shittest in some years.
Blarno

I started the year with the Flying Postbox and intended to keep it forever. But, a shock offer landed on my lap in August that I couldn't really refuse and so old Postbox was offloaded and replaced with Billy The Flying Wardrobe, a 2008 SAAB 93 TiD 150 Sportwagon, which, barring a head gasket issue, has been absolutely brilliant. Currently creeping up on 130k.
simonp

I've only had 0.75 of a motoring year in 2016!
TreVoR

My motoring year started off with an ancient Discovery and ended up with a sorted but ancient Defender. It also meant a knackered TVR with subsequent repairs.

I love my Defender even more than I love the TVR. Both are staying.
cbeaks1

Lots - for me S-Max Titanium, Mondeo Hybrid, C-Max 1.5 auto, C-Max 2.0 manual, Mondeo Estate

Other car Kuga Tit X, Focus RS, Mustang 2.3, Focus ST3 250
Frank Bullitt

The A2 passed its MOT on Thursday, a few advisories (headlights deteriorating but not affecting output - doesn't sound like the are deteriorating then, number plates being slightly damaged and the front right shock absorber misting lightly, something which has been flagged for 4 years on the trot) which as always at Audi was free. Apart from its alternator going pop earlier this year, it's been faultless (touch wood) and still doesn't feel like a 12 year old car.

It is closing in on 120k now and 12 years old at the start of Jan, my mind is turning more and more to a replacement which will probably be something very different, I find the car less relaxing to drive at the end of a busy day than I used to although having only done 6,500 miles since the last MOT I'm not spending hours in there, think I'm just getting old.

New car this year, with the purchase of a caravan the DS4 was replaced for a more powerful one - the new car is excellent and a real joy to drive. The 2.0HDi engine is strong and perfectly happy pulling the 1200kg shed - it's the only reason we sold the old car, it was really a very good vehicle and I guess that's why we bought another, they might be much derided by the motoring press but we enjoy the car in so many ways.
Twelfth Monkey

A quiet one in terms of mileage at 4.5k.  Remapped the car and extremely glad I did so.  Managed to get just under 31 mpg on a 70-mile run yesterday, so no detriment at the pumps either, it seems.  After ten years, mileage just gone over the 76k mark.  Car should be 15 before it reaches the ton.
franki68

Bought the other half a cayenne ,moved somewhere you can actually enjoy driving,appreciated the allroad in the winter even more.
Plans for next year ..nothing definite.Have an order in for a gt3 but doubt I will get one so it's subject to that ,the gt4 will go though I think.
Nice Guy Eddie

All change for me, out went the Gti and 993,





In came the Cayman to take both their places,



Kept the Gti for over 3 years and the 993 for 5 years which is by far the longest I've owned cars. The Gti I got bored of having done the hot hatch thing now I was keen to move on to a more interesting daily. The 993 was at that stage where I would need to spend 10k getting it fully striped and repainted which meant I'd have had to keep it.

I had planned on just keeping the GTi until the M2 turned up next year but a call from Porsche Guildford who heard I had sold the 993 met with an offer I couldn't refuse on a 3 month old, 1000 mile Cayman. When I said I wanted a manual the only one was a rather bright white which was far from ideal but I've got used to the colour.

Question is what to do next year, keep the Cayman or move on to the M2?

The Cayman is fabulous in every area so its a hard choice.
Nice Guy Eddie

franki68 wrote:
Bought the other half a cayenne ,moved somewhere you can actually enjoy driving,appreciated the allroad in the winter even more.
Plans for next year ..nothing definite.Have an order in for a gt3 but doubt I will get one so it's subject to that ,the gt4 will go though I think.


Can you not offer the dealer your GT4 back at the price you paid therefore giving them the opportunity to have a massive earn on your car and with that they should look at you more favourably on the GT3 list?
franki68

Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
franki68 wrote:
Bought the other half a cayenne ,moved somewhere you can actually enjoy driving,appreciated the allroad in the winter even more.
Plans for next year ..nothing definite.Have an order in for a gt3 but doubt I will get one so it's subject to that ,the gt4 will go though I think.


Can you not offer the dealer your GT4 back at the price you paid therefore giving them the opportunity to have a massive earn on your car and with that they should look at you more favourably on the GT3 list?


It is a thought,that or kill everyone else on the list.
Martin

NGE....what about swapping the Cayman for more of a 'keeper' colour and spec?

franki....are you not loving the GT4?

Nothing new for me in 2016 or any dramas to report, just a couple of new rear tyres and a service.
Nice Guy Eddie

Martin wrote:
NGE....what about swapping the Cayman for more of a 'keeper' colour and spec?



There is that. A nice manual Cayman GTS in Guards Red or Sapphire Blue with all the right boxes ticked would be a winner but currently they're mid 60k and a lot of other car options open up at that money.

I'm in no rush and if something nice comes up, who knows.
JohnC

I would think a Cayman of almost any variety would be a more special place to spend time than an M2 which will feel a bit cheap and brutish by comparison. Don't get me wrong the M2 will impress massively but I think when you've crossed that Porsche line you'll always be trying to get back (although your first major service might change that opinion)
JohnC

Back to OP.

2016 brought little new to me. My wife's car threw a bobbly about its oil level and consumption earlier this year and we seriously thought about moving it on and replacing it with something different, probably with 4 doors and 4WD. We looked at making us a two 4 series family, with an XDrive 4GC but the Audi seemed to behave itself again and has only consumed about 1/4 litre over the last 2,000 miles so we decided to save some money and keep it.

I have toyed with the idea of changing mine for a petrol with all the anti diesel stuff flying about but I have spoken to a few people in the motor trade who reckon any change will be relatively slow and highly unlikely to change things and make it worthwhile selling mine money wise. If there was a 440i XDrive I would probably do it but I don't see the point if I end up going RWD again and having to buy a set of winters as well. I'm still getting high 30's to the gallon and giving it full throttle whenever I get the chance and it still puts a smile on my face. Diesels shouldn't be that fast!

Anyway between now and 31st January I am surrounded by Tax Returns and long days so I don't have time to think about cars.
franki68

Martin wrote:
NGE....what about swapping the Cayman for more of a 'keeper' colour and spec?

franki....are you not loving the GT4?

Nothing new for me in 2016 or any dramas to report, just a couple of new rear tyres and a service.


I do love it ,immense fun.But it was bought because I couldn't get a gt3,and the combo of the bucket seats and manual box is playing havoc with my back.
Roadsterstu

Started the year with the V50 at around 92k miles. Ending it at around 110k. After Xmas it will need new lower suspension bushes at the front, a service, new brake fluid and coolant. It's on the winters currently but before the summers go back on it will need a pair of tyres for the front. MOT due in May. It's highly likely that once that comes round it will be time to change it. Still loving it, though.
BeN

Not been an easy year for me. The Lancer proved a bit too much to run and ended up in the workshop far too often, so it had to go. I really thought I could have run it forever, but sadly it turned out not to be.

It's been about a month since I had my Prius now. Liking it more and more by the day. :)

And of course in between there are all the cars that pass through my hands temporarily, with particular highlights including the new MX-5, BMW M2 and Audi R8.
Michael

Volvo.

I have managed to get through 2016 without travelling any distance on a bus which is a result.
simonp

In late August (I think) I passed the year anniversary of having the A3, so, thinking about it, I've probably been driving it for around 12 months now. It's a very good car, but ultimately rather dull to drive. It's a conflicting thing because I like the huge increase in economy and the obvious financial saving that brings, but I miss having the extra performance that all its predecessors had. I spend far too much time stuck behind stuff now because the Audi's weak mid range shove means it's crap at overtaking.

Unfortunately, because I assumed I was going to be hit with huge insurance premiums I signed up for a 4 year PCP rather than something shorter. That means I'm probably gonna be stuck with it for quite a while before I'm ahead of the negative equity curve and can get shot of it...
Roadsterstu

simonp wrote:
it's crap at overtaking.


Perhaps for the best, eh?  
gonnabuildabuggy

First year in a long time with no sales or purchases.

Big little GBB passed his test which was good and makes life a lot simpler.

That said 2016 isn't over yet....
Grampa

Nothing of note at all - no changes and none on the horizon - the Mini is 10 years old in 5 days time and the Scirocco hits 7 in May.
Giant

This year I sold the A2, which I still miss a great deal, had a short term company 116D before getting the Astra in mid Feb. It has been on here noted how dull Astras are, but I really don't think many cars, certainly none on my company car list, could meet my criteria better, with minimal cost admittedly being high on priorities at the current time. It has proven relaxing, comfortable and utterly reliable. The seven weeks I spent in Meriva, 2008 and Fiesta courtesy cars only made me appreciate the Astra more.

Overall this year, I have covered 23500 miles (14500 of which work mileage) at a total cost to me (including tax, all sundry items and cleaning products) £1255.
More depressingly, my average speed has been 29.5mph, so I've spent 804 hours (33.5 days!!) at the wheel.
Bob Sacamano

My year started with a leased Ford Focus 1.5Tdi Zetec  - a very good car, rode and handled very well, with quite a refined engine and nicely specced with the Sync 2 phone/nav interface. Really difficult to find fault with.

That was followed by a BMW 1-series 116d Sport which, to be frank, was a bit crap. It wasn't much of a looker with it's 16" wheels, the 3 pot diesel engine was fairly unrefined (although it delivered 60mpg all day long) and it had one of the worst manual gearboxes I've had the misfortune to use for ages, stiff and obstructive it made gearchanges a chore. Couple this with a set of pedals offset far too far to the right, everyone who drove it came back saying the same.
After that it was a 1-series 118d M Sport auto - a complete revelation. Estoril blue with black leather and in M Sport trim it didn't look half bad. Add in a really good auto box and an engine that only really lost out at the top end, I really enjoyed it. Even the ride was good - the leather lifted the interior and a nice chunky steering wheel gave it a nice tactile feel.
Currently I have a 320d M Sport Auto which isn't such a big difference from the 1-series, but it has a few extra toys, a good quality feel, a bit more punch and the same excellent gearbox. The only thing lacking is the folding rear seat (someone forgot to tick that box).
In between I've had a Skoda Fabia Estate in Norway - instantly forgettable, just dreary really, and we've changed our petrol Qashqai for the 1.5 diesel and added the panoramic roof. The Qashqai still really impresses all round - probably all the car most of us need really.
gonnabuildabuggy

Bob Sacamano wrote:
The Qashqai still really impresses all round - probably all the car most of us need really.


Probably true, the lacking in boot space according to those friends with one which makes it a little small for main family duties?
Tim

Changes this year amount to selling my 2002 BMW 320d estate in May, buying a 2005 320d estate (with 210k miles on it!) in August for £500 and then Mrs Tim trading that for a 2013 320d XDrive last month as the other 320 was deemed as 'unsafe'.
She kindly waited until I'd put £300 worth of winter tyres on it but managed to get £1,100 as a trade-in.

The only other car of note that I can recall driving was a test in a Mustang V8 that turned out to be mildly disappointing, as it felt slightly slower than the M5 and didn't make enough noise.
Bob Sacamano

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
The Qashqai still really impresses all round - probably all the car most of us need really.


Probably true, the lacking in boot space according to those friends with one which makes it a little small for main family duties?


Plenty of boot space in ours - do they know they can remove the boot floor to increase it?
Frank Bullitt

Bob Sacamano wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
The Qashqai still really impresses all round - probably all the car most of us need really.


Probably true, the lacking in boot space according to those friends with one which makes it a little small for main family duties?


Plenty of boot space in ours - do they know they can remove the boot floor to increase it?


I know quite a few Qashqai owners and I've never heard one complain about the boot space!
Bob Sacamano

Frank Bullitt wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
The Qashqai still really impresses all round - probably all the car most of us need really.


Probably true, the lacking in boot space according to those friends with one which makes it a little small for main family duties?


Plenty of boot space in ours - do they know they can remove the boot floor to increase it?


I know quite a few Qashqai owners and I've never heard one complain about the boot space!


Qashqai 430 litres, Golf 380 litres, Focus 318 litres, Astra  351 litres.

I suppose if the boot's not big enough you'd buy a Kadjar.
Roadsterstu

They must have too much clobber.
Chip Butty

Started the year with the ST3 and a speed awareness course (nabbed on Jan 2nd)

XF S eventually turned up at the end of Jan (should have arrived Nov 2015)

Discovery 4 and S-Type R in August.

I miss the ST - the gearbox, the noise it made and the way it delivered it's performance.
Andy C

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
The Qashqai still really impresses all round - probably all the car most of us need really.


Probably true, the lacking in boot space according to those friends with one which makes it a little small for main family duties?


Plenty of boot space in ours - do they know they can remove the boot floor to increase it?


I know quite a few Qashqai owners and I've never heard one complain about the boot space!


Qashqai 430 litres, Golf 380 litres, Focus 318 litres, Astra  351 litres.

I suppose if the boot's not big enough you'd buy a Kadjar.


Or the estate versions of those hatchbacks, which are bigger than those cross over things
Andy C

Bob Sacamano wrote:
The Qashqai still really impresses all round - probably all the car most of us need really.


I'm glad you said most!
PhilD

Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
All change for me, out went the Gti and 993,


Thought the air-cooled Porsches were increasing in value exponentially? Or is that balanced by the £££ you need to spend on upkeep?
simonp

Roadsterstu wrote:
simonp wrote:
it's crap at overtaking.


Perhaps for the best, eh?  


True. I learnt a hard lesson that day, but it is still frustrating not being able to do it any more without a huge run up...
Stuntman

My motoring year started with the highlight of taking delivery of the GT4 on 9th Jan.  I have just received the tax reminder and insurance renewal quote!

The silver Cayman turned 10 in March and now has 92k under its wheels.  It failed its MOT on a few minor items which required replacing a few parts, and it needed an AA man to visit it in November when the battery lost charge.  Apart from that, it continues to delight.  It'll stay for a while longer I suspect although a big brake disc/pad bill may be imminent.  The current ones have lasted very well (no trackday action for 5 years) but I suspect they don't have much decent service life left in them.  

The M3 now has 56k under its wheels and is seven and a half now.  Again it threw me a couple of wobblies with control unit failures which were fixed under my extended warranty at the cost of one and a half warranty excess payments.  It also mostly continues to delight, and average fuel economy has improved slightly this year to the heady heights of 22 mpg!

Next year I hope I can drive more miles in the GT4.  I have barely driven it over the last 4 months as I have been working away from home, long hours in a very stressful contract job.  This ends on Thursday 22nd December and I will be unemployed again.  But with time on my hands and a GT4 crying out to be exercised.
Rodge

No change in motors,still got the RX300 and it's about 600 miles shy of 250,000 which is pretty good. New tyres have helped the cause.
The Honda has been a different story. Very unreliable, now it's high mileage but it's like there's one thing after another breaking on it.
In other news, I had to apply for my California driving licence now that I'm a resident.
Brought my EU licence, passport, visa, work permit and social security card to the DMV to get a learners permit.
Passed the theory test and vision test only to be told I have to wait as they need to verify my date of birth and this could take up to 60 days...
So I'm waiting for a piece of paper to allow me to do my test, 33 years after I first drove a tractor!
Boxer6

Rodge wrote:
No change in motors,still got the RX300 and it's about 600 miles shy of 250,000 which is pretty good. New tyres have helped the cause.
The Honda has been a different story. Very unreliable, now it's high mileage but it's like there's one thing after another breaking on it.
In other news, I had to apply for my California driving licence now that I'm a resident.
Brought my EU licence, passport, visa, work permit and social security card to the DMV to get a learners permit.
Passed the theory test and vision test only to be told I have to wait as they need to verify my date of birth and this could take up to 60 days...
So I'm waiting for a piece of paper to allow me to do my test, 33 years after I first drove a tractor!


So FIVE official pieces of identification isn't enough for the DMV to work your date of birth out? Jeez . . . .
PhilD

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
The Qashqai still really impresses all round - probably all the car most of us need really.


Probably true, the lacking in boot space according to those friends with one which makes it a little small for main family duties?


Plenty of boot space in ours - do they know they can remove the boot floor to increase it?


I know quite a few Qashqai owners and I've never heard one complain about the boot space!


Qashqai 430 litres, Golf 380 litres, Focus 318 litres, Astra  351 litres.

I suppose if the boot's not big enough you'd buy a roofbox.


FYP.
simonp

Or an X-Trail...
Racing Teatray

My motoring year went thus:

On the rental front, at various points we got through a Renault Clio SportTourer thing, an Audi A1 TDi, a Fiat 500X and a Renault Captur courtesy of Avis Italy, all of which were perfectly acceptable in their own ways, particularly the 500X which we liked a lot and was even Racing-spec, being dark metallic green with brown leather seats.

On the home front, I spent much of the year looking at potential replacements for the M135i, in particular Porsche 996/7s, Maserati 4200s and BMW 8-series. I got very close to buying a gorgeous dark green 996 Targa around Easter time but got beaten to it, which was probably for the best, given everything I have subsequently learnt about the older sliding targa roof systems.

I test-drove several cars. Of those, I adored the Maserati 4200 Cambiocorsa – it's a fabulous engine that sounds awesome wrapped in a pretty shape which is almost practical. I also really liked the Audi RS3 Sportback (a surprise and mostly due to an engine which provides unearthly shove and sounds insanely good) and the BMW 440i GC (no surprise). However, the Aston Martin DB7 i6, Jaguar F-Type 3.0S coupe and the Mercedes SL500 didn't do it for me. That was surprising in the case of the Jag – less so the DB7 and Merc, which both just felt old, heavy and unsporty (in particular the Aston). The Jag wasn't bad – it simply suffered from being replete with a surfeit of high expectations and from not being a V8. It was gorgeous to look at and went very well, but felt way too normal to drive to justify the insanely bad packaging. The Aston was a major disappointment.

I never got around to trying a 911 though. Which means I have reached the age of 40 having never driven any sort of Porsche. Which is a failing I must rectify at some point.

In the end, having put the fear of God into my wife at the thought of an old super-coupe, particularly an 8-series, and then having suffered three separate warranty claims on the M135i as it hit its 4th birthday, she agreed to the idea of a replacing the M135i with a new bigger car. We looked at the XE-S, which she liked. But it had a cheap-feeling interior, only comes as a 4dr saloon and was notably expensive on PCP. We also looked at the Alfa Giulia, 340i Touring, C43 AMG and the S4 Avant, but my wife dislikes estates and, while we both really liked the Giulia, the only mechanically desirable Giulia is the Quadrifoglio, which is 4dr-only (without even the option of folding rear seats) and monstrously expensive on finance. So that narrowed it down to fastbacks in the shape of the new S5 Sportback and the 440i Gran Coupe. We both fancied not having a BMW for a change but the new S5 is nowhere near as pretty as the old one, the reviews are mediocre (whereas they were pretty good for the 440i) and the 440i utterly minced the S5 on the money front. Then when I test-drove the 440i GC, I really liked it, so that pretty much settled itself and one very smart Carbon Black 440i Gran Coupe duly arrived in our drive 10 days or so ago. And we are delighted with it so far.

My wife's Fiat 500 Twinair Lounge also reached the end of its PCP at the start of this month and, although Mrs Racing fancied a new 500 with a soft top and a different colour (in particular the new Riva special edition) and although Fiat was offering over 20% off a new 500, the part-ex value of her immaculate 13k mile 3yr old 500 was actually deemed below the GFV, so it didn't seem sensible to get a new one. So we paid the balloon and kept it for the time being. It is after all pretty much still like new, barring a few kerbing marks on the wheels, and remains a charming and entertaining little car that is perfectly suited to her commute. However, she retains designs on changing it for something sportier – she likes the 124 Spider for example and also hankers after a Porsche Boxster – and she has changed role at work and now gets a fairly substantial car allowance, so a change may be in the air in 2017. But that probably entirely depends on whether any little Racings get introduced into the mix at any point, in which case she will I guess drop any idea of a 2-seater.

In other Racing family automotive news, I helped my sister to acquire a 2005 BMW 318i ES Touring a couple of months ago after the arrival of her second child meant they badly needed a second car. She's very pleased with it. And my father recently chopped his A7 in for a new SQ5 Plus in a very dark metallic green, which I gather he is also very pleased with.

Next car challenge will be in the spring, when my mother wants to change her 2010 A3 Sportback 1.4T. Lead contender at the moment is an automatic Mini Countryman. So that'll be my task…
Big Blue

Is it slow in your office today, Racing.

PhilD

Stuntman wrote:

 This ends on Thursday 22nd December and I will be unemployed again.  But with time on my hands and a GT4 crying out to be exercised.


I suggest an epic road trip! Unless you went for the same seats as Franki?
PhilD

Racing Teatray wrote:
the 500X which we liked a lot and was even Racing-spec, being dark metallic green with brown leather seats.


Is there a write up of this?
DetmoldDick

Drove to work and back 220 or so times. Drove to Poland and back twice; once with a trailer to collect 7 new double glazing units. Drove to the UK and back. Drove down to the Mosel valley and back. Numerous trips to family, shops, etc etc. Car ran perfectly the whole time.
Had the car serviced, including a new battery (profilactic) for less than €300.
4 new winter tyres fitted (Goodyear Ultragrip 9s) which are absolutely superb.
So a great motoring year.
Racing Teatray

Big Blue wrote:
Is it slow in your office today, Racing.



It hasn't been, hence only responding to this today! But I found myself with half an hour to kill whilst waiting for colleagues to out for a pre-Christmas lunch, so got typing...
Racing Teatray

PhilD wrote:
Racing Teatray wrote:
the 500X which we liked a lot and was even Racing-spec, being dark metallic green with brown leather seats.


Is there a write up of this?


I started it but never finished it. I will see if I can find the draft.
Stuntman

PhilD wrote:
Stuntman wrote:

 This ends on Thursday 22nd December and I will be unemployed again.  But with time on my hands and a GT4 crying out to be exercised.


I suggest an epic road trip! Unless you went for the same seats as Franki?


Same seats as Franki, but I have found them to be very comfortable so far.  Well, the driver's seat at least  
gonnabuildabuggy

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
The Qashqai still really impresses all round - probably all the car most of us need really.


Probably true, the lacking in boot space according to those friends with one which makes it a little small for main family duties?


Plenty of boot space in ours - do they know they can remove the boot floor to increase it?


I know quite a few Qashqai owners and I've never heard one complain about the boot space!


Qashqai 430 litres, Golf 380 litres, Focus 318 litres, Astra  351 litres.

I suppose if the boot's not big enough you'd buy a Kadjar.


Golf's and Focus's aren't really main family cars though for a family of 4 with two teenagers.

Their solution has been a roof box.
Racing Teatray

I love that in Italy the roof box gets referred to as the "mother-in-law carrier"...
PhilD

Stuntman wrote:
PhilD wrote:
Stuntman wrote:

 This ends on Thursday 22nd December and I will be unemployed again.  But with time on my hands and a GT4 crying out to be exercised.


I suggest an epic road trip! Unless you went for the same seats as Franki?


Same seats as Franki, but I have found them to be very comfortable so far.  Well, the driver's seat at least  


I bet you can touch your toes.
Bob Sacamano

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:


Golf's and Focus's aren't really main family cars though for a family of 4 with two teenagers.



Really? When did that happen - did I miss the memo? Has anyone told Ford and VW?
Boxer6

Bob Sacamano wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:


Golf's and Focus's aren't really main family cars though for a family of 4 with two teenagers.



Really? When did that happen - did I miss the memo? Has anyone told Ford and VW?


That was my immediate thought too! My previous boss has twin football-playing sons and they've managed with a Golf and/or variety of Fiesta's right through their growing years! And not because they couldn't afford bigger cars - they just never saw the need.
gonnabuildabuggy

Boxer6 wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:


Golf's and Focus's aren't really main family cars though for a family of 4 with two teenagers.



Really? When did that happen - did I miss the memo? Has anyone told Ford and VW?


That was my immediate thought too! My previous boss has twin football-playing sons and they've managed with a Golf and/or variety of Fiesta's right through their growing years! And not because they couldn't afford bigger cars - they just never saw the need.


Nice as they are as cars, unless people are smaller up north, I'd say doing a 5 hr drive in the back of a Golf isn't much fun, compared to the back of a Passat.

Ditto, packing for a camping holiday is a bit of a stretch.

Totally different if you're just doing local runs.
Bob Sacamano

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Boxer6 wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:


Golf's and Focus's aren't really main family cars though for a family of 4 with two teenagers.



Really? When did that happen - did I miss the memo? Has anyone told Ford and VW?


That was my immediate thought too! My previous boss has twin football-playing sons and they've managed with a Golf and/or variety of Fiesta's right through their growing years! And not because they couldn't afford bigger cars - they just never saw the need.


Nice as they are as cars, unless people are smaller up north, I'd say doing a 5 hr drive in the back of a Golf isn't much fun, compared to the back of a Passat.

Ditto, packing for a camping holiday is a bit of a stretch.

.


As it is in a Passat - that's why you have roofboxes.

Focus and Golfs are bigger than Mondeos and Vectras of only a few years ago.  Obviously Porkmeisters may need something extra big.
gonnabuildabuggy

Focus is I'm sure, not been in back of a Golf for a while. My perspective is skewed to earlier versions.

But......space is a luxury and much as we can get away with less of it, more is nice.

We've been spoilt by the FRV which makes even an E Class feel small in the back (though, ironically, front leg room is poor so anyone over 6ft 2 would lack enough leg room.
Tim

We had a day trip with 4 adults in a Mk1 Focus a few years back and I don't remember any particular discomfort (apart from that moment of terror when we went over a sharp crest at 70 and got airborne   ).
Mind you only the driver was over about 5 foot 7.
Frank Bullitt

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Focus is I'm sure, not been in back of a Golf for a while. My perspective is skewed to earlier versions.

But......space is a luxury and much as we can get away with less of it, more is nice.


The mk5 Golf certainly passed the 'me behind me' test and I would contend that they are perfectly capable as family cars for many people and perform the duty well.

Last year in France there was a family of 5 from Shropshire who'd driven down in a mk6 Golf, the youngest was ten but the older two were 16 and 14 - they didn't even have a roof box as the 5 bikes they had were spread between the roof and towbar! We had a Skoda Estelle when my sister and I were teenagers which was okay space-wise
Martin

That sounds like child cruelty to me!  Mine are too far the other way, apparently my next car should have reclining heated rear seats..... I can't moan too much, I loved my Dads Granada Scorpio with its comfy, electrically reclining l rear seats and aircon.  It made long journeys and summer holidays so much more enjoyable.

I had a Bora when my eldest was born and has moved to a Passat by the time my second arrived, but that was due to a job change rather than the need for any more spaces. I had a saloon followed by an estate (both taken from the pool) and the chose a saloon again.  Never had an issue with a lack of space, even on self catering family holidays to France and I didn't have to resort to strapping a shed to the roof.   I went for the estate this time because it looked and drove better than the saloon.  The extra practicality is useful now we don't have a hatchback in the garage, but it's not essential.  

I've always preferred big cars and even if I didn't have kids, I'd still have something of a decent size.  Maybe an S Class coupe, or a new Panamera....
PG

Martin wrote:
That sounds like child cruelty to me!


Hardly! Kids today don't know they are born.

In 1964, we drove 5 up as a family 1000 miles to Valencia, Spanish Costa Brava in an Austin 1100. It took three days.

In 1969 we did the same trip 6 up in a Jag 340. I sat on a seat fashioned between the front seats.

Motoring wide 2016 has been stable. I've had the XFR for 12 months on 1 December - service and MOT passed. Slight hiccup over a headlight but all on warranty.

The Shogun just carries on. It'll be 8 in April.

Loan  / hire car wise my memory is terrible. From Jag it has been XE or XF 2.0 diesels. Hire cars in the US have been a Kia people wagon (surprisingly comfortable for US driving); a Buick 2.0 - aka an Insignia (nice to drive one with a petrol engine); and recently a Chevy Impala (white goods).
PhilD

Martin wrote:
or a new Panamera....


That car in Turbo S flavour is stirring my loins a tad. And not just because of the crazy spoiler, which I think was on the old Kyphosis model. Perfect family car maybe...
Stuntman

Agree.  It's a lovely thing, apart from the fact that it's absolutely enormous.
Boxer6

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Boxer6 wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:


Golf's and Focus's aren't really main family cars though for a family of 4 with two teenagers.



Really? When did that happen - did I miss the memo? Has anyone told Ford and VW?


That was my immediate thought too! My previous boss has twin football-playing sons and they've managed with a Golf and/or variety of Fiesta's right through their growing years! And not because they couldn't afford bigger cars - they just never saw the need.


Nice as they are as cars, unless people are smaller up north, I'd say doing a 5 hr drive in the back of a Golf isn't much fun, compared to the back of a Passat.

Ditto, packing for a camping holiday is a bit of a stretch.

Totally different if you're just doing local runs.


I meant to put in that post both of them topped 6 ft by age 13! (They're not identical twins)

They have a villa in South-East Spain and have driven there on at least two occasions that I know of in his Mk.6 Golf, with no reported issues. Well, none related to space anyway!  
Stuntman

Some pictures of the cars from earlier in the year, starting with the day the Cayman turned 10 - in the car park of Hitchin Priory hotel when I was contracting at Luton Airport:



The blue brothers:


How low?


Too bloody low to go in my garage - this V shaped slope at the entrance defeats it:


And with a Prescott shed on the spoiler:


Driven it 50 miles today - first time since Mid November!
Sav

A Cayman GTS and an E90 M3 - I don't think there's a better line-up in the real world. Stunning.
gooner

Sav wrote:
A Cayman GTS and an E90 M3 - I don't think there's a better line-up in the real world. Stunning.


Except perhaps a Cayman GT4 and an M3 perhaps  
Boxer6

gooner wrote:
Sav wrote:
A Cayman GTS and an E90 M3 - I don't think there's a better line-up in the real world. Stunning.


Except perhaps a Cayman GT4 and an M3 perhaps  


Perhaps!
Stuntman



Heresy maybe, but I think the GTS is probably better in the real world more of the time.  It would certainly go into my garage...
Sav

Ooops ....I would take either of those Cayman's - not fussy!
Alf McQueef

It has been a straightforward motoring year for me. The C Max has not skipped a beat and is still far more fun to drive than it has any right to be. It will be the last car with raised rear seats that we buy now Lu is taller, I don't love going in the back when she decides she wants the front, but its got a few years with us yet.

The XFR has been superb. There are many days when I would not rather have been in anything else. It is so quick yet understated, fun to drive yet refined, and just so exuberant for a brand with such an old man image. 2016 was the year I got used to it's performance and on-tap queefability and made good use of both. It's a fantastic car and has also cost less to run than expected (though the 2 year warranty is up in the spring - that and the road tax will cost a fair bit!). I'd have another.

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