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Nelson

What is the forum consensus on....II

The new Jeep Renegade

I know I might be heading for a fall here and a potential forum ban and ridicule but I really like them, the more I see I like and the wife does too.

Would fit our lifestyle perfectly, I need around a 500 litre boot but I know this only offers 351 litres but I could compromise but I like the looks and be that may that a lot of it is Fiat derived this has a lot of appeal to me

I'm also at the stage of considering one in a loud colour, maybe orange.

Also with potential bans and restrictions for diesels that maybe enforced later this decade would a c150bhp turbo petrol be a wise move, though I would miss the real world mid range shove and I haven't driven a petrol car for a long time now so can't comment on how smaller 1.4 sized turbos drive and respond but I am very interested to find out if they make sense.

A neighbour has a '15 plate diesel version in black with contrasting bright work to the grille and around the front light, it was pared outside our house last night and I couldn't help but go out an have a nosey around.

Am I daft for considering one to replace the Mondeo?
Michael

Re: What is the forum consensus on....II

Nelson wrote:
The new Jeep Renegade...

...I really like them


Best reason you can have. Get it bought.
Twelfth Monkey

There's one near me.  It looks like a Tonka toy and has about as much appeal for me as a personal form of transport.  

But Michael's right.
Bob Sacamano

I think buy it in a bright colour and don't give a stuff what others think.
franki68

Proper tonka toys.

Terrible quality interiors,but as a brand did it not do exceptionally well,in terms of ownership satisfaction ?  Think it came very high up in auto express customer survey.
Frank Bullitt

I quite like them too and there are mega finance deals at the moment - there is one in the work car park in a solid grey which looks shocking but in yellow or orange they give a healthy two-finger salute.
gonnabuildabuggy

Had a good poke round the full Jeep range last month.

I think the Renegade makes a lot of sense as a package.

I just can't quite get over the looks though and would probably look at the 500X as well.

I can't recall who it is, but another manufacturer is about to launch a product into "the Juke space" which actually looks really good. Can't remember who it is though.
TreVoR

My neighbour has one.  I am not a fan of the styling but he likes it.  After an initial few problems (electrical, I think) he seems happy.

I think Boxer6 had one as a loaner a while back.
Giant

I see quite a few about, all in tonka toy colours, yellow, orange, red, apple green. They do look Tonga toy like, but quite good for it, far more appealing than most in its segment although I can't imagine if ever choose one myself.

If you like them go for it.
Boxer6

TreVoR wrote:
My neighbour has one. I am not a fan of the styling but he likes it. After an initial few problems (electrical, I think) he seems happy.

I think Boxer6 had one as a loaner a while back.


I did indeed, twice, and loathed every second I spent in it! I'm the first to admit that personal preference is NOT for lairily-coloured, biggish 4X4's, no matter who makes them, and the two I had were respectively BRIGHT YELLOW and a rather nasty BLUE.

Interior is OK for what it is I felt, more so compared to an eight-year old Subaru!, but some of the graphics were dire and the SatNav fitted to them was unintuitive to use and difficult to read on the move even when I adjusted the scale to suit.

Personally, I felt it was really difficult to see out of and to judge where the corners were; not a major issues if I'd spent more time with them I suppose, but visibility is not good for such a relatively high car.

As for the driving dynamics - well, there really weren't any! Handling was mediocre at best I felt, and grunt was not the best, though it managed to propel me along at a fair rate once the rubber bands got into their stride.

Personally, I found it OK for a day, but not for much longer.

Edit: I should point out again that it doesn't appeal to me. I'm not really a fan of the shape, and it's so opposite what I drive every day it's really quite unfair to slate it too much.

As others have said, if you like it, buy it! You've driven loads more cars than me and know what you like/want. I hope you enjoy whatever you may buy!!  
Stuntman

I like the look of them, certainly instantly recognisable as a Jeep.  Never sat in one or driven one though.  I suspect it would be an amusing thing to drive for a few weeks but the novelty might wear off pretty quickly.

But as has been said above - the best reason to buy anything is because you like it.
Racing Teatray

To me they look like they are the sort of car that would be amusing to rent on some holiday island. In a bright colour. Not sure about day to day in the UK.

Plus they look a teensy bit camp to me. But fortunately we all have different taste!
PG

They remind me of a modern, updated Suzuki SJ413. And they sold remarkably well, so if you like the Renegade, go for it.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

The only cars to have in orange:

or
gooner

They're not my cup of tea, if you wanted to stand out in a crossover that looked a bit different the Citroen Cactus holds more appeal. I still don't see Jeeps as being particularly good quality products.
Boxer6

gooner wrote:
They're not my cup of tea, if you wanted to stand out in a crossover that looked a bit different the Citroen Cactus holds more appeal. I still don't see Jeeps as being particularly good quality products.


I suspect the Cactus would be, quite simply, too small going from Nelsons' brief.
Nelson

Boxer6 wrote:
gooner wrote:
They're not my cup of tea, if you wanted to stand out in a crossover that looked a bit different the Citroen Cactus holds more appeal. I still don't see Jeeps as being particularly good quality products.


I suspect the Cactus would be, quite simply, too small going from Nelsons' brief.


I do like the look of the Cactus, but having got close up to one yesterday it's not going to be considered.
+ looks, side air-bumps, simplistic interior (there are days when I just want to drive)
- very low, limited boot space, limited power, simplistic interior (there are probably more days that I want to drive and feel cosseted and have lots of toys), but what bugs me the most and loses all creditability from me is the lack of properly opening rear windows

I had a nosey round an 3-GT M-sport too, not wholly taken by the looks, it's a bit awkward in profile, but it does meet a lot of my brief...5 doors, practical, big boot, plenty of toys, but what puts me off, and I know I've said it before, is the lack of a rear wiper...that honestly has lost any sale and I can't imagine trying to reverse one of them in the rain in a crowded car park. Dreadful omission.

Just like the Audi A5 Sportback - a school Mum has got one and says bar the ride she loves it, but again great looking car, much more well proportioned that the 3-GT but a lack of rear wiper prevents a sale, again.

Both have hatch style doors at the back, instead of a traditional boot, both have large glass areas so why no wiper?

The new Kia Sportage is worth looking at too

I'm just getting some ideas...we want to change the Mondeo but can't afford to just yet, but changes maybe afoot and come the end of the year we would be looking at a PCP deal, no more than 250pm, maybe stretch to 280-300 inc. maintenance but I'd want a deal with no or minimal deposit (no more than the cost of what I'd get for the Mondeo in other words)

The only car that fits the complete bill for me is a new Octavia vRS (can't think of anything off the top of my head I dislike about it, but got a nagging feeling they are getting a little 'old' and due a replacement).

I'd love one on the new Audi A4 Avant's with the techy dials pack but very much doubt that a suitable deal would be kind to me with 2k deposit and then within monthly budget

Do dealers do PCP deals on nearly new cars? I'd really like a prestige marque, ideally a BMW 5-series 520d M-Sport Estate with plenty of options would be very high on my wish list but a deal at 385pm for a new one is over my budget. Maybe the deals will become more attractive once the new model is introduced
Martin

The best pcp deals will be on new in stock cars, nearly new usually works out to be more expensive per month as the interest rates are higher.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Martin wrote:
The best pcp deals will be on new in stock cars, nearly new usually works out to be more expensive per month as the interest rates are higher.

I can substantiate that claim, 3 times over.....
Boxer6

Nelson wrote:
I had a nosey round an 3-GT M-sport too, not wholly taken by the looks, it's a bit awkward in profile, but it does meet a lot of my brief...5 doors, practical, big boot, plenty of toys, but what puts me off, and I know I've said it before, is the lack of a rear wiper...that honestly has lost any sale and I can't imagine trying to reverse one of them in the rain in a crowded car park. Dreadful looking car anyway.


FYP!

Saw one of these earlier too, and my immediate thought was it was almost as ugly as the X4 I'll refer to in the villains thread . .
JohnC

Nelson wrote:
I had a nosey round an 3-GT M-sport too, not wholly taken by the looks, it's a bit awkward in profile, but it does meet a lot of my brief...5 doors, practical, big boot, plenty of toys, but what puts me off, and I know I've said it before, is the lack of a rear wiper...that honestly has lost any sale and I can't imagine trying to reverse one of them in the rain in a crowded car park. Dreadful omission.



Don't let that stop you. Some glass sealant will have most of the water running off and a rear facing camera at c300 after discount will let you see behind in any weather.

On the move my rear window gets no rain on it even when it's torrential and when I slow down and the rain hits it, the sealant means the water just runs off: much easier than finding and buying a car I don't really want just because it has a wiper.
PhilD

Bob Sacamano wrote:
I think buy it in a bright colour and don't give a stuff what others think.


True but he did ask!

I got a wee bit excited when I saw an advert for one, thinking it was like the Toyota FJ Cruiser but on closer inspection I felt the the build quality/materials quality let it down and it wasn't that different/interesting/quirky. Some of the proportions are also a bit odd.

However, I do like it and agree that if you do then go for it!
PG

Is it safe to admit that, in the right spec, the 3 GT is growing on me?  

Somebody on our business park has a metallic blue one in M sport spec and it looks OK. In a lot of other colours it still looks bloody awful. Does it have frameless doors (always a good thing)?
JohnC

PG wrote:
Does it have frameless doors (always a good thing)?


It does
Racing Teatray

It still looks like a Chinese copy of the 4GC to me though.

And the 4GC is already a car that I almost like a lot but which has something indefinably wrong with its stance.
Frank Bullitt

JohnC wrote:
Nelson wrote:
I had a nosey round an 3-GT M-sport too, not wholly taken by the looks, it's a bit awkward in profile, but it does meet a lot of my brief...5 doors, practical, big boot, plenty of toys, but what puts me off, and I know I've said it before, is the lack of a rear wiper...that honestly has lost any sale and I can't imagine trying to reverse one of them in the rain in a crowded car park. Dreadful omission.



Don't let that stop you. Some glass sealant will have most of the water running off and a rear facing camera at c300 after discount will let you see behind in any weather.

On the move my rear window gets no rain on it even when it's torrential and when I slow down and the rain hits it, the sealant means the water just runs off: much easier than finding and buying a car I don't really want just because it has a wiper.


Agreed - the A2 doesn't have a rear wiper and 'notoriously' has poor rear visibility but that's just rubbish - it has a deal that you put on that basically means water can't stick to it.

Cactus 110 puretech is fine on power and performance (60 in the low 9's), rear non-opening windows are a non-entity (as they are in our DS4).
gonnabuildabuggy

PG wrote:
Is it safe to admit that, in the right spec, the 3 GT is growing on me?

Somebody on our business park has a metallic blue one in M sport spec and it looks OK. In a lot of other colours it still looks bloody awful. Does it have frameless doors (always a good thing)?


Same. And the 5GT, which is criminally good value as a used car, just a pity the early ones weren't available with a V8.
Martin

The 5 GT looks worse than the 3 GT and is a bit of a strange mix of X5 and 5 series when you're in the drivers seat.  An ex colleague had a 320i GT and really liked it, they are easily as big (legroom/headroom but not worth) as a 5 series inside.  But if you want that much space, get a 5 series, much nicer.
gooner

Martin wrote:
The 5 GT looks worse than the 3 GT and is a bit of a strange mix of X5 and 5 series when you're in the drivers seat. An ex colleague had a 320i GT and really liked it, they are easily as big (legroom/headroom but not worth) as a 5 series inside. But if you want that much space, get a 5 series, much nicer.


Well surely the point of the 5 touring is that it's for those who want a 5 but need more space than the saloon. Likewise the X5 is for those that like the 5 but want an SUV. I really don't understand how there came to be a niche market for a 5 that was a bit less touringie and a bit less SUVie than a touring and an X5.
Michael

It's a 5 hatchback, the slightly raised cabin is a red herring when all said and done.
Giant

Michael wrote:
It's a 5 hatchback, the slightly raised cabin is a red herring when all said and done.


But how does that work for the 3series? a 4GC is a 3 hatchback, a 3GT is a tall 3 hatchback?

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