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simonp

Waaahhhh, s'not fair!

Sore loser syndrome?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/32274762
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Indeed - if there's a slow car in your way, whyu not just pass it on track



presuming that you are capable of overtaking another car on track.....



Lewis and Nico were supposed to have gone back to the drawing board over the winter, one to work out how to improve qualifying skills/performance, the other to work out how to be faster in the race.

One of them appears to have done his homework.....
PhilD

Watching Hamilton's post race BBC interview I think he was backing Rosberg up and it's a shame BBC coverage has such an obvious Hamilton bias or we may have seen some sort of investigation by them. Still, all's fair in love and war!
Bob Sacamano

Fuck Rosberg, he's a brat, born with a silver spoon in his mouth and if his daddy hadn't been a racing driver he'd be nowhere near a car now.
Humphrey The Pug



Rosberg is just coming across as a massive tit; as Lewis said, he should have overtaken me then, but he couldn't get close. (or words to the effect).

I'm loving it and it is not doing Rosberg any favours at all as no one agrees with him.
Big Blue

I must admit, Rosberg needs to just up his game as opposed to suggesting that Hamilton is slowing down to screw his race around: he shouldn't allow himself to get into that position if that is the case.
Martin

It's a load of fuss about nothing, but it is funny seeing Rosberg pouting and moaning!
Nice Guy Eddie

Rosberg really is playing this so wrong. Its not a Pro Hamilton, UK Media stance, I'm sure the Germans are calling him a cry baby too.

As a side note, Button continues to be faster then his supposedly much more talented team mates. Lets hope he keeps it up but think Alonso will eventually get him pegged back.

Whats with Vettels race suits, they make him look like he's 10 and hes borrowed his dads clothes.
Humphrey The Pug

Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
Whats with Vettels race suits, they make him look like he's 10 and hes borrowed his dads clothes.


Yep and red so isn't his colour!!

Jacques Villeneuve always wore a race suit that was a couple of sizes too big.
Big Blue

Humphrey The Pug wrote:


Jacques Fucking Villeneuve always thought he was bigger than he was so wore a race suit that was a couple of sizes too big.


FYP

Vettel's suits are left over from the Mansell era....
gooner

If Hamilton was too slow shouldn't he have overtaken? That's what Vettel did to Webber despite them being team mates. That's why he's a 4x champ and Rosberg never will be!
Chris M Wanted a V-10

gooner wrote:
If Hamilton was too slow shouldn't he have overtaken? That's what Vettel did to Webber despite them being team mates. That's why he's a 4x champ and Rosberg never will be!


"There's no Multi-21, Nico, no Multi-21"

"Lewis is faster than you ......... sorry"
Alf McQueef

Nice Guy Eddie wrote:

As a side note, Button continues to be faster then his supposedly much more talented team mates. Lets hope he keeps it up but think Alonso will eventually get him pegged back.


Indeed - they have been almost identical, not the massacre people predicted. Then again a lot of people have short memories for the comments when Lewis went to McLaren - where he was ahead on raw pace but often scored less points.

Until the Maldonado incident (which looked like Maldonado brake-testing Button, to me, the twat, not that the stewards agreed) it was going to be 2-0 in qualy and 1-0 in the races to Button...
PhilD

Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
Rosberg really is playing this so wrong. Its not a Pro Hamilton, UK Media stance, I'm sure the Germans are calling him a cry baby too.



Rosberg is playing right into Hamilton's (and Vettel's) hands. He needs some much better advisers. To be clear, my point is that the Pro-hamilton BBC is resulting in poor journalism - DC just said "we have to take Hamilton's words at face value" why? it was clear when he saying saying them he was hiding something.  Did Sky look into Rosberg's claims in any detail?
Humphrey The Pug

Alf McQueef wrote:
Nice Guy Eddie wrote:

As a side note, Button continues to be faster then his supposedly much more talented team mates. Lets hope he keeps it up but think Alonso will eventually get him pegged back.


Indeed - they have been almost identical, not the massacre people predicted. Then again a lot of people have short memories for the comments when Lewis went to McLaren - where he was ahead on raw pace but often scored less points.


Especially when Alonos is considered to be able to drive a not so good car better than most and Jenson is generally not so good in adapting to, or driving around problems.
Martin

Alf McQueef wrote:
Until the Maldonado incident (which looked like Maldonado brake-testing Button, to me, the twat, not that the stewards agreed) it was going to be 2-0 in qualy and 1-0 in the races to Button...


I don't like to defend him as he doesn't deserve to be in F1, but Maldonado had gone off a couple of times (including the pit entrance), which Brundle was convinced was due to a brake issue.   Maybe he was just braking slightly earlier than Button expected?  Although he has been following him for a while, so you'd have thought he would have known that?

Button sent Maldonado a message apologising and saying he'd got a bit over excited.

PhilD wrote:
Did Sky look into Rosberg's claims in any detail?


Yes and they basically called him a big cry baby!  Their view (which I share) is that Hamilton was driving an intelligent race, saving the tyres because Mercedes thought Ferrari would have a lower wear rate.    He was doing what he needed to in order to win and never put Rosberg in any real danger, just made him sweat a bit.
PhilD

Martin wrote:
He was doing what he needed to in order to win and never put Rosberg in any real danger, just made him sweat a bit.


which explains his BBC interview. He knew exactly what he was doing!
simonp

The Beeb reckoned he did a Fangio and won at the slowest pace possible. Personally, I loved the sly look on Lewis' face when he was asked about it. His attitude was the team got a 1-2 and it was the best way round.
Giant

simonp wrote:
The Beeb reckoned he did a Fangio and won at the slowest pace possible.


Which is surely the most sensible way to lead. Those that are behind can either overtake or pipe down!

I don't much like Hamilton, although he hasn't irked me yet this season, and would have been happy to see Rosberg win last season, but so far this season Rosbergs moaning is wanting me to see Hamilton beat him.
Humphrey The Pug

simonp wrote:
The Beeb reckoned he did a Fangio and won at the slowest pace possible. Personally, I loved the sly look on Lewis' face when he was asked about it. His attitude was the team got a 1-2 and it was the best way round.


Sky said the same; Damon Hill, Martin Brundle and Johnny Herbert said that how Lewis drove was perfectly fine and he did no wrong.
Big Blue

Giant wrote:

I don't much like Hamilton, although he hasn't irked me yet this season, and would have been happy to see Rosberg win last season, but so far this season Rosbergs moaning is wanting me to see Hamilton beat him.


Yes, I agree. He's a great racer and so long as he keeps his other excesses sensible it'll stay that way.
simonp

It's only his rapper look that irritates me, the cap with a flat peak and the jewellery etc, other than than that I like him. The video on the BBC website where he goes back to his old karting track with DC to race with the kids there shows he still has his feet somewhere near the ground.
Humphrey The Pug

I can just live with the diamond earrings; it's that bloody great big gold chain that he wears that just makes him look a complete and utter tool.
PhilD

I do like his magic hair:

Humphrey The Pug

PhilD wrote:
I do like his magic hair:



Phil; that is Gok Wan, this is a photo of Hamilton:


Eff One

Though I'm no Hamilton fan, I agree with everybody else except Rosberg: Lewis was absolutely entitled to control the race as he saw fit. Nico really needs to stop whining and get on with the job.

Maldonado must be one of the most inconsistent drivers ever to sit in an F1 car. I remember Mark Hughes observing him trackside last year, and writing that he never took a corner the same way twice. He can be very quick, but the errors he makes are just ludicrous for a professional racing driver.

In his defence, though, his race-ending shunt was down to a rare mistake from Button, who apologised for it afterwards.
PhilD

Eff One wrote:
Though I'm no Hamilton fan, I agree with everybody else except Rosberg: Lewis was absolutely entitled to control the race as he saw fit. Nico really needs to stop whining and get on with the job.

Maldonado must be one of the most inconsistent drivers ever to sit in an F1 car. I remember Mark Hughes observing him trackside last year, and writing that he never took a corner the same way twice. He can be very quick, but the errors he makes are just ludicrous for a professional racing driver.

In his defence, though, his race-ending shunt was down to a rare mistake from Button, who apologised for it afterwards.


Maybe there are actually Maldonado twins taking it in turn but no one has noticed?
PhilD

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
PhilD wrote:
I do like his magic hair:



Phil; that is Gok Wan, this is a photo of Hamilton:




Gok Wan and Gok Two then...
Big Blue

Sorry, just had to tweet those 2 pictures. #Blessed
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
..... it's that bloody great big gold chain that he wears that just makes him look a complete and utter tool.

Perhaps he wants to be Lord Mayor after he retires ???
Sav

It is rather difficult to see Rosberg’s problem. Rosberg only once got within a second of Hamilton to activate the DRS, but even when he had the benefit of DRS Hamilton increased the gap on the next lap. After that, Rosberg was relatively close but was never a particular challenge for Hamilton. I say that because if Rosberg was being held up as he claims, he surely would have gotten closer to Hamilton rather than being two seconds or more behind.

Rosberg’s car had greater straight-line speed then Hamilton’s, and along that long back straight, one would have thought he would have been in a good position to at least get closer to Hamilton even before getting within DRS range. I could understand Rosberg’s point if he was consistently getting within a second of Hamilton, but it is rather difficult to complain about the pace of a car in front when it is a few corners away any given time. One could complain about the dirty air, but how many times last year was Hamilton behind Rosberg and he still managed to pass him.

What really separated both drivers were the laps that Hamilton achieved before his second pitstop, he went significantly faster than both Rosberg and Vettel at that point. Those prior laps neutralised the advantage that Rosberg and Vettel had by having fresher tyres for a few laps.

Mercedes no longer has the sheer pace advantage that they enjoyed in 2014 on high-fuel. That means that the two Merc's can ill-afford to squabble on track, if you look at last year’s Bahrain GP where they passed each other several times, try that this weekend and a red Ferrari might snatch the victory. It could the case that whichever Mercedes driver gets pole, or gets to turn 1 in front might have a decisive advantage compared to last year. They preached about letting the driver’s race last year, but that might cost them overall victory this year at certain circuits.

As for Maldonado, well, I’ve seen worse in motorsport. For me, however, the real shame is that Jolyon Palmer doesn’t race for the team. I really think he deserves a shot after performing brilliantly in GP2 the past couple of years. As along as those cheque’s keep rolling in from Venezuela, it’s unlikely to happen unfortunately.

Look how exciting it is to watch Verstappen drive and pass other cars. I thought he might temper some of his aggression from European F3, but with the way he passed Marcus Ericsson and even went past Ricciardo on the opening lap yesterday, that won’t be happening anytime soon.

I believe we need to see the genuinely talented youngsters come through, some of them still do, but it is unfortunate when a lot of guys from the junior ranks are on the sidelines as “reserve” drivers. I’d like to see a few of the reserve and test drivers give some other racing a try, if allowed. Someone like Kevin Magnussen was seriously considering IndyCar before he was called up for Melbourne with Alonso’s injury, he should try and race a few of the street or road course races in that series, or even drive the 650S GT3 in whatever series that allows GT3 cars.
PhilD

Now there's some proper journalism from our Sav!
Humphrey The Pug

Big Blue wrote:
Sorry, just had to tweet those 2 pictures. #Blessed


Lol, just seen it.

Showed Tina the picture of Hamilton, her response; "Lewis Hamilton is a prat"
JohnC

If he's trying to look like Gok Wan, is that a clue as to why he is no longer with the outstandingly beautiful Nicole?
PhilD

JohnC wrote:
If he's trying to look like Gok Wan, is that a clue as to why he is no longer with the outstandingly beautiful Nicole?


It was a blind date at first and he thought he was meeting Nic Scherzinger.
Nice Guy Eddie

If you want to see young talent take on old hands give Formula E a go. I watched it for about 10 minutes before I had enough. The car switch half way through the race was the deal breaker.
Sav

PhilD wrote:
Now there's some proper journalism from our Sav!


Too kind!
simonp

Ha ha, second row!

Ha ha (again)!
Martin

Now he's moaning that Lewis is too fast!  

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