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PG

The replacing my XF hare is across the finishing line……

In the summer I was thinking about getting a Cooper S for some fun. But Mrs PG pointed out that with five vehicles already (Jag, Shogun, horse lorry, tractor and quad bike), she’d rather I spent the cash upgrading my car. She had a point. I’ve had my XF two and a half years and I’d intended to run it till next spring and then see what to do. But you know how these things happen. It needs a 66k service, so I am booking my car into my local Jag dealer while looking at the Jag website and notice that said dealer has a very well specced XFR on their forecourt. So after booking a service for this coming Friday, I hear myself asking to speak to the sales guy I know to get a few more details. And after a chat with him, what do you know? I’m seeing him on Friday morning after I drop my car off.

The car in question is 61 reg but has only covered 29k miles. Spec is total FG – all the usual stereo, leather etc etc, but this also has Italian Racing Red paint; jet suedecloth headlining; blind spot system and voodoo cruise control. It also does not have piano black interior wood (which I don’t really like and which seems almost de-rigeur on newer XFR’s). It is a facelift model, but still on the 6 speed box (so no stop-start). The one thing I'd change if I could is I'd prefer black window surrounds to chrome. But I can live with that (and they can be changed for £££ if I ever feel like modding it).

My ideal would be an early facelift 8 speed model – which is 2013 model onwards.  But they seem pretty rare in any sort of decent spec. And even if you have no price limit, the choice is a bit thin. I only want a main dealer offered car. There are currently 26 XFR’s on the Jag site. By the time you eliminate white (eugh); red-zone leather seats (I’m not keen on them and Mrs PG defined them as a deal breaker); ivory seats and interior (that really does not suit the XFR); and piano black wood, the choice starts to get rather thin. Especially when two that were interesting turned out to be sold already (why do dealers do that?). But I’ll call about a couple of others to try and gauge what the average deal / discount / trade in might be.

Here's some photos off the web site. We shall see what Friday brings…..



Blarno

That is nice. Get it bought.
Bob Sacamano

That looks really nice and the chrome surround looks fine as well. Beautiful red colour.
TreVoR

Blarno wrote:
That is nice. Get it bought.


I was thinking the same.  Lovely to see one that isn't black, white or grey.
Stuntman

Very nice, if you like the colour.  I think it's a bit too bright for an XFR, a car like that needs to be a bit more understated IMO so you can fly under the radar.

The main thing, though, is you're thinking of upgrading your XF for an even lovelier one.  When I saw the thread title I thought 'Oh no!' and was then pleasantly surprised and relieved!
JohnC

I like that and the chrome. The front certainly looks cleaner with the upgraded headlights and I presume if it is a Jaguar approved car it comes with 2 years warranty as well.

I can see the deal being done by close of play on Friday.
Michael

Look forward to seeing it at Prescott.
PG

Stuntman wrote:
Very nice, if you like the colour.  I think it's a bit too bright for an XFR, a car like that needs to be a bit more understated IMO so you can fly under the radar.


Under the radar? More like this then - full on stealth bomber mode - black, with black pack, black wheels and black leather. I actually like that, but it has 52k miles on which rules it out.

A bright red one might make me drive a bit slower....


Twelfth Monkey

I think this might be an itch you'd regret not scratching!
Michael

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
I think this might be an itch you'd regret not scratching!


I think this is it. Desirable specifications and that colour are going to be rare. By the time the opportunity comes up again the odds are it'll be a 50k mile model.
Humphrey The Pug

One car where the facelift massively improves the original, looks good in the red too.
Humphrey The Pug

One car where the facelift massively improves the original, looks good in the red too.
Martin

I like the red one better and the wheels are nicer than the standard XFR ones and I agree with your thoughts on the best interior.   You gave serious thought to an XFR last time and managed to talk yourself out of it, so you need to get one bought.  

Don't you think it's worth waiting for a right spec 8 speeder to come up for sale?  Didn't Peet said it was a significant improvement?
JohnC

There's one in Liverpool with the ivory interior but a couple of years younger. Whilst the interior colour might not suit it shows that there are newer 8 speed cars out there which are possibly better value.

The black one with red leather is potentially the best value but not the right interior.
Martin

I've just had a look and there are plenty out there, but not quite right, which would suggest the right spec could come along.  I'm amazed at the number with beige interiors.

Are you going to look at anything else options, or is the XFR the only option?

Hopefully you will get a proper test drive, ideally a 24 hour loan, because it will be interesting to know whether the extra performance is really usable and worth the cost to upgrade.
Roadsterstu

That looks fantastic  in red. I'm another one to say do it.
gooner

Sounds like you've already made up your mind. Go get it!
DetmoldDick

I prefer the red one.
JohnC

Don't suppose this would be any use (it's 8 speed) - the interior is a bit Marmite but I like it:

http://used.jaguar.co.uk/search#/details/2649593

Stratstone also have a grey one with black leather and the 8 speed for a bit less cash!
Nice Guy Eddie

Woof woof and indeed ding dong! Go with it, looks bloody marvellous.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Roadsterstu wrote:
That looks fantastic  in red. I'm another one to say do it.

+1; add some (non-working) blue lights and a large "FIRE" sign on the front and you could force your way through traffic as a Fire Chief !  It's very red, isn't it ?
PhilD

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
 It's very red, isn't it ?


Doesn't Blarno have a phrase for that?

Generally with these type of cars I'm with Stunts but when that picture came up I thought it looked stupendous. You can really see its "muscles"
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Not sure that an XF could be mistaken for a postbox, even one lying on its side
PhilD

More caniney Chris...
Chris M Wanted a V-10

PhilD wrote:
More caniney Chris...

Reminds me of the long boat I saw that was named "Never Mind".
It was moored at Bow Locks
PG

JohnC wrote:
Don't suppose this would be any use (it's 8 speed) - the interior is a bit Marmite but I like it:

http://used.jaguar.co.uk/search#/details/2649593

Stratstone also have a grey one with black leather and the 8 speed for a bit less cash!


The exterior of that one is pretty much perfect - black or dark grey, black pack, standard nevis alloys. I like the tan seats and the jet headlining. But it lacks the blind spot system (and I've always found the blind spot very large behind the driver, so I really wanted to get this as craning my neck is getting to be a pain) and no adaptive xenons.

This one is in Wolverhampton
http://used.jaguar.co.uk/search#/details/2637247
Dove headlining otherwise pretty good, apart from how could somebody think that chrome side vents were tasteful?

This is one I might call about -
http://used.jaguar.co.uk/search#/details/2652865
No photos, so no way to tell at first glance of it has the jet headlining, but has voodoo cruise, adaptive xenons and blind spot. Oh, but those bloody chrome side vents again.  

This one is well over the budget
http://used.jaguar.co.uk/search#/details/2651080
Dove headlining abd black wood and I'm not sure if adaptive xenons are fitted.
Martin

Is the voodoo cruise a deal breaker?   I spent a fair bit of time on the M1 today and for some reason was thinking about adaptive cruise, as I used my normal cruise quite a bit.  I was releasing the cruise control as I saw someone indicate or pull out and just cruising (excuse the pun!) up behind, then pressing resume when they moved over.  Wouldn't an adaptive system would keep going then brake?  I think that would annoy me, but I've not tried it to me sure.  The latest systems with queue assist would be different, I can really see the benefit in those.

I've given this too much thought, that's how boring it is driving on Motorways, especially the mainly 50mph M1....

I like the grey one.  The last one is a lot, brand new ones were £47-48k 12 months ago, so I bet an in stock new car wouldn't be much more now there's a new model.   There's a thought....!
PG

Martin wrote:
Is the voodoo cruise a deal breaker?  


The voodoo cruise isn't a deal-breaker, but the blind spot system is.

I'm not sure there are any unregistered ones left. All old style XF's have gone from all the broker-internet sites. The nearly new ones coming onto the market all seem to be ex Jaguar cars.
Martin

Have you driven a car with the blind spot functionality?  I've driven a couple and the constant winking of the light in the mirror on the motorway was a touch annoying.  

Looking at the picture of the red one again, does the black pack remove the chrome trim around the lower bumper?  If so, a grey one with black pack would be the ideal option imho.
Giant

That looks superb! The chrome looks great against the red too, better than I imagine the black pack would.

To play devils advocate for a second, will an XFR be sufficiently different from your current XF to justify the cost to change? Have you considered anything else?
JohnC

Martin wrote:
Is the voodoo cruise a deal breaker?   I spent a fair bit of time on the M1 today and for some reason was thinking about adaptive cruise, as I used my normal cruise quite a bit.  I was releasing the cruise control as I saw someone indicate or pull out and just cruising (excuse the pun!) up behind, then pressing resume when they moved over.  Wouldn't an adaptive system would keep going then brake?  I think that would annoy me, but I've not tried it to me sure.  The latest systems with queue assist would be different, I can really see the benefit in those.

I've given this too much thought, that's how boring it is driving on Motorways, especially the mainly 50mph M1....

I like the grey one.  The last one is a lot, brand new ones were £47-48k 12 months ago, so I bet an in stock new car wouldn't be much more now there's a new model.   There's a thought....!


I have a client with a Cayenne and adaptive cruise which he says drives him mad. It brakes and keeps the distance (not as smoothly as you can do by manually switching off the cruise) but it's when the car in front pulls back in, it sometimes leaps forward on kickdown and then has to hit the brakes again if someone else pulls out. Systems are getting better but they aren't subtle enough yet, in his opinion.
JohnC

PG wrote:
[(and I've always found the blind spot very large behind the driver, so I really wanted to get this as craning my neck is getting to be a pain)


Are the mirrors on the Jag the same as BMW with a section down the outside edge which gives a wider angle of view?

I have always been blindspot aware and set my mirrors up in a car park so that I can see anything which might be a danger. This usually means I can't see the side of my car in the mirror without tilting my head a small bit but it's well worth it. Susan on the other hand has her mirrors set so that the mirror is half full of the side of her car - everyone to their own.
Frank Bullitt

Martin wrote:
Is the voodoo cruise a deal breaker?   I spent a fair bit of time on the M1 today and for some reason was thinking about adaptive cruise, as I used my normal cruise quite a bit.  I was releasing the cruise control as I saw someone indicate or pull out and just cruising (excuse the pun!) up behind, then pressing resume when they moved over.  Wouldn't an adaptive system would keep going then brake?  I think that would annoy me, but I've not tried it to me sure.  The latest systems with queue assist would be different, I can really see the benefit in those.


Owners with the C4 Picasso Exclusive + which had adaptive cruise from launch comment that it's very annoying indeed as it is forever changing the speed of the car when judgement would work better; annoyingly for them you only have adaptive cruise or no cruise, no normal cruise option; this has been rectified by Citroen and they've made it an option on this model.

Likewise blind spot monitoring seems to be easily confused by dirt - many people seem to switch it off.

The car that John links with the tan interior is stunning; I prefer the red outside on the one PG is looking at but I would compromise for that tan interior (I would always compromise on outside colour for the right interior). Anyway, if you bought the red one we'd nickname it 'Dog Cock'...and still be envious!
PhilD

I feel like such luddite with these threads as I can't imagine wanting/needing all these driver aids, but then I've never had any of them so maybe I'm missing out!
JohnC

PhilD wrote:
I feel like such luddite with these threads as I can't imagine wanting/needing all these driver aids, but then I've never had any of them so maybe I'm missing out!


It's like all technology - you don't know you need it until you have and then you can't do without it. Just ask most people with an iphone or ipad.

In the cold light of day we could do without them but whilst they are there (and in used car terms don't really cost any more), why not have what you want.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

I'd definitely hold out for one with the 8-speed 'box. The one that JohnC highlighted looks particularly nice.
PhilD

JohnC wrote:
PhilD wrote:
I feel like such luddite with these threads as I can't imagine wanting/needing all these driver aids, but then I've never had any of them so maybe I'm missing out!


It's like all technology - you don't know you need it until you have and then you can't do without it. Just ask most people with an iphone or ipad.


I would think that some of these driver aids are like the ipod and some are more like the MiniDisc!
Blarno

PhilD wrote:
Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
 It's very red, isn't it ?


Doesn't Blarno have a phrase for that?

Generally with these type of cars I'm with Stunts but when that picture came up I thought it looked stupendous. You can really see its "muscles"


Dog Cock Red?
Grampa

The red one looks stunning - look forward to hearing you bought it!
Racing Teatray

Grampa wrote:
The red one looks stunning - look forward to hearing you bought it!


^^^

This.
Big Blue

Racing Teatray wrote:
Grampa wrote:
The red one looks stunning - look forward to hearing you bought it!


^^^

This.


+1

I'm always shocked how few red cars there are when it suits a lot of cars.
DetmoldDick

Never owned a red car. My aversion dates back to the days they all used to fade.
I'm seriously considering metallic red for my next car, I'm sick and tired of the greyscale monotony of cars currently on the road.
JohnC

Red used to be a favourite colour of mine (and it still is on some cars) and I have had a few red cars over the years. My wife still has an inherent dislike of red for some female illogical reason that she can never properly elucidate.

At the end of the day though it's PG choice and whichever one he makes it will be right.
Bob Sacamano

Apparently red cars promote subconscious rage and aggression and are therefore to be avoided.

I'm trying to think who has a red car and if this holds true.
Blarno

Me.

But I'm a chilled mofo and my car spends more time being brown or grey anyway.
Martin

I've not noticed any difference in my driving, nor any additional agression from anyone else since driving a red car   I expected Porsche + Red to create a lot of negativity, but it's quite the opposite apart from a very small number of morons.
Bryan M

I have recently got one and not aware of turning into a seething ball of pent up rage :)
PhilD

Martin wrote:
I expected Porsche + Red to create a lot of negativity, but it's quite the opposite apart from a very small number of morons.


Yeah, sorry about that.
Martin

So, it was you weaving an and out, driving too close and generally harassing Lindsay on the M1 last week?  I hope you were't too upset when she easily dropped you joining the M25!
Bob Sacamano

The red = aggression theory was told to me by a guy who worked for Fuji and was told by the Japanese that he couldn't order his Alfa Romeo 156 company car in red for this reason. He had to settle for metallic light blue.

I'm assuming Japan's peaceful outlook since 1945 is down to a lack of red cars on the road.
Big Blue

I had a red Honda CRX and a red Golf GTi. If any cars needed to be red to invoke aggressive driving in a 20-something it probably wasn't either of them.
Chip Butty

There may well be a few unregistered ones floating around, the XF 2.2d and XFR are still listed on the Oct - Dec staff discount list.

I had BLIS on all of my XFs (std fit on company cars) and I thought it was a complete waste of time. I assume you have experienced it and used it to know it's worth holding out for ?.

If it helps - there was a handful of XFRs that went through the company scheme on 15 plates, most of these are due to be defleeted within the next 3 or so months. So expect to see them coming through the dealers. Most of them were UB and IRR with black pack and dark finish Dracos.
Grampa

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Apparently red cars promote subconscious rage and aggression and are therefore to be avoided.

I'm trying to think who has a red car and if this holds true.


I've had three red cars and can't say they made much of a difference to the way I drove them - one was my Xedos which had an engine that encouraged 'lazy' driving with too much throttle to hear the V6 woofle, another was an Alfa GTV which encouraged one to enjoy the handling (once a little too much resulting in the need for a complete new front end ) and finally my Astra VXR - it was the superb engine in that which encouraged 'exuberant' driving - I'm sure it would have been just the same in any other colour - a little bit of the door mirrors was the only red you could see from the driver's seat anyway.
PhilD

When did we start taking Bob seriously?  



PG

Chip Butty wrote:
There may well be a few unregistered ones floating around, the XF 2.2d and XFR are still listed on the Oct - Dec staff discount list.

I had BLIS on all of my XFs (std fit on company cars) and I thought it was a complete waste of time. I assume you have experienced it and used it to know it's worth holding out for ?.

If it helps - there was a handful of XFRs that went through the company scheme on 15 plates, most of these are due to be defleeted within the next 3 or so months. So expect to see them coming through the dealers. Most of them were UB and IRR with black pack and dark finish Dracos.


I've worked the man maths, but I simply can't stretch to a new one or a nearly new one.

I have tried BLIS and liked it.
PG

Well that took all day.

Saw the sales guy this morning. Gave him the trade in details; he poked around my car; I had a good look at the red XFR and went for a test drive. Not so much the flying postbox as the supersonic post box. Everything I remember from the last XFR I drove was still there. Relaxed cruiser one moment. Overtaking weapon the next. Loved it!

I got some figures. Argued a lot. Went back later on. Argued a bit more. The deal is done. Deposit put down. The deal includes swapping my exhausts over as, dare I  say it, it seemed a bit quiet after what I am used to.

Target delivery date is end of the month.
Michael

Good man!
JohnC

Congratulations.
Frank Bullitt

Excellent news!
Martin

Excellent!
Stuntman

Well done, sleep well!
PR

Awesome.
Blarno

Get that man a cigar!
Nice Guy Eddie

Boom
Bryan M

Fantastic news!
gooner

You lucky chimp, sounds like it was made for you.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Blarno wrote:
Get that man a cigar!

Do you mean a git-plate C1GAR ?
TreVoR

Superb.  I would have been disappointed with anything less and the exhaust swap is the icing on the cake!
Twelfth Monkey

Great stuff.  Seems that the XF-R is well on its way to becoming the new 156 GTA!
JohnC

I had a look at the used XE V6's on the Jaguar site and all bar one car over 5 pages is RED. This may just be the new colour!
Roadrunner

Outstanding. Well done.
Andy C

Great choice.
Big Blue

Top stuff.

Tell us when it comes.
Roadsterstu

Great news PG. And the exhausts, too. It should sound immense!
Boxer6

Well that was resolved pretty quickly - didn't even really get a chance to ignore any suggestions from the squad either!

Excllent result, here's to many happy miles.  
Alf McQueef

Awesome work PG!! I was late to this one, been a bit busy, and it looks like the deal is done but not one I would have dissuaded in any way! You have the right car, the rest is all taste - personally I prefer the Nevis alloys, definitely not black ones on this car, and don't like wood that looks like wood. But, while it is not for me when I'm visiting clients all the time, I like XFR's in red.

I have just read your comments on sport settings on auto gearboxes on Martin's thread, I think you will find the programming of the XFR one, and the massively improved torque, make this something of a non-issue now. Personally I only switch to Sport when I want the paddles to be full manual, the standard program is perfectly judged.

I like the BLIS and voodoo cruise, but they are marginal improvements. As people have said, voodoo cruise lacks subtlety when braking, I often switch it off like I would with a normal system to allow speed to bleed off more slowly, but when following cars with minor speed changes (like through long 50mph motorway roadworks) it is very useful. Just remember when it is, and is not, on!

Overall you will love the car - I spent a few hours in mine yesterday, not on business or with the family in it (unless you count my brother, who is used to being thrown around by me and does not complain!) and it just still takes my breath away with its mix of refinement, comfort, and sheer ability and enjoyment on good roads, the way it spears out of corners with the front dug into the tarmac, the rear balanced beautifully, and so flat (even without dynamic mode on) is just incredible. Especially using the paddles it is just such a smooth but hugely enjoyable weapon of a car cross country, it will not disappoint!
Bob Sacamano

Bish, bash, bosh, job sorted. As has been pointed out good idea to do the deal promptly without us all putting our oar in. Lovely car and much nicer than Alf's *













*kidding!  
Alf McQueef

I think most people would agree with you Bob! I was unable to stretch to a facelift model, they attract quite a premium - (this one is more than £6k more than mine for 9 months newer on similar mileage).

Unless fuel goes silly I would very much consider one of these next, though I do like the slightly more muscle-car look of the original XFR and without the DRL's its a bit more under the radar. I am going to have to balance the costs of changing mine at around say 90k miles when it still has some value, with running it for another 2-3 years at that point - if those in the know suggest they continue without issues,  I would be tempted by the latter since the physical changes were very slight.

I would be very interested to see the newer UI and dials PG! The rest of the interior looks identical. Looks a superb spec too, it has all the toys - even a heated steering wheel, the one thing I was lacking! The split fold rear seat is very good, and I would not get one without the upgrade stereo  personally.
Martin

Alf McQueef wrote:
I do like the slightly more muscle-car look of the original XFR and without the DRL's, bright red paint and aftermarket exhaust, mine is a bit more under the radar.


FYP!  
Grampa

PG wrote:
Well that took all day.


PG wrote:
The deal is done.


Seems like it was a very worthwhile day's work though.
Sav

JohnC wrote:
I had a look at the used XE V6's on the Jaguar site and all bar one car over 5 pages is RED. This may just be the new colour!


Indeed! That lonely black XE S. However when this particular red looks stunning, it doesn't tire seeing it. I saw a red XE S at the local dealer a while ago and it looked great. I don't usually like red, but this one and a few others like Imola Red are lovely shades.

The XFR looks immense in red, well done PG!
Boxer6

Time to shoot the hare now? Just a thought!!
PG

We've agreed that delivery will 1st December.

Quite a lot happening  / to happen in the meantime -
Full service, new MOT, two new tyres, some stone chips to repair, Lifeshine treatment
My winter wheel set are silver Dracos (as fitted to the XFR luckily), so I only need two rears as they are wider. Sourced these off ebay yesterday, along with two rear winter tyres from blackcircles.
Once everything has arrived, I'll drop the winter wheel and tyre set into the dealer and they will swap the car onto those before I take delivery. Call me a coward if you like, but I didn't really fancy an XFR on summer tyres in December.....  
I'll collect the summers and take them home to add to my growing Jaguar wheel and tyre collection.
My current XF will go in on 30th November for them to swap the exhausts over.

The other advantage of swapping on 1 December is that I can avoid a month's double road tax under the new rules, so long as I can do one day without a car. I drop my current XF off on 30 November, cancel the tax and SORN it online. That way I'll get a refund of December onwards. I go home. On 1st December I get the new one and it is taxed from 1st December. At the arse raping £505 a year, one month is worth saving.

Excitement levels are building.
PhilD

PG wrote:
so long as I can do one day without a car


Get yourself one of these for the day  

http://www.greatescapecars.co.uk/...lassiccars-jaguarmk2cotswolds.asp
PG

Boxer6 wrote:
Time to shoot the hare now? Just a thought!!


Good point.

I've edited the title. Thought talk of "shooting" might be a bit inappropriate in the circumstances... so swapping stories half way through the hare has crossed the finishing line. No sign of the tortoise yet, or maybe it crossed ages ago and is not home tucked up in bed hibernating.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Great stuff.  Seems that the XF-R is well on its way to becoming the new 156 GTA!

Hahaha ... beat me to it!
PG

Mrs PG and I did a joint trip to the dealer today. The back of the Shogun was full of tyres and wheels and exhausts. Dropped the old car off and signed it over to the dealer and paid up for the new one.

The salesman called me later on to tell me the Spires exhausts sounded great on the XFR.

Collection is 10am tomorrow. Bring it!
Twelfth Monkey

Good for you.  Pics, naturally...
JohnC

PG wrote:

Collection is 10am tomorrow. Bring it!


I hope you are taking the long way home. Enjoy.
Martin

Enjoy tomorrow!
Roadsterstu

Enjoy!

Bloke at work has the opportunity to have an XFR. His dad has one. Doesn't drive it much, either. So dad says son can have it to use as much as he wants. Keep it at his house. Practically be given it for free. Nope, says colleague, it's too thirsty.

No? No?????!!!
PG

Roadsterstu wrote:
Nope, says colleague, it's too thirsty.

No? No?????!!!


I think he needs to check himself into a mental institution. A free XFR..... what's not to like?
PG

[Brian Blessed voice] It's arrived......[end]

Drove home with a huge grin on my face. The exhausts sound a little louder then on the XF - more pressure I guess - and brilliant. It does indeed go rather well, although with greasy roads and brand new rear winter tyres, I didn't push it too much.

I think the dealer staff must have taken it for a spirited shake down after the service, as when I got in the trip showed 10 miles since reset at 11 mpg! I've reset to see what it will do in my hands.  

I already like the facelift interior over my previous pre-facelfit one. The black dials with white lettering are clearer - and the between the dials display has an option of a digital speedo below the clock. Probably a useful in your face licence saver. Plus the black suedecloth headlining looks and feels special.

I am at home and very busy tomorrow, so my first opportunity for a proper drive will be a Thursday round trip to Birmingham.








Big Blue

Looks great in that colour scheme; not at all wankered-up at the front end, either, a common failing of sports-versions of cars.
Alf McQueef

Roadsterstu wrote:
Enjoy!

Bloke at work has the opportunity to have an XFR. His dad has one. Doesn't drive it much, either. So dad says son can have it to use as much as he wants. Keep it at his house. Practically be given it for free. Nope, says colleague, it's too thirsty.

No? No?????!!!


If that guy ever suggests he is any form of car enthusiast, or opines in any way about anything motoring related other than the need for 20 limits everywhere, just punch him in the face!

Car is looking great PG - I really like the XFR in that colour...
Martin

Looks good, enjoy the trip to Birmingham! (not something you hear every day....)
Twelfth Monkey

Looks great, may you enjoy many happy miles together.  I know that disenchantment with the 'modern way' is how one becomes a classic car stereotype, but you're in the modern era of reliability and usability yet still get a proper V8 soundtrack and accompanying grunt.  I think the future will have great cars in it, but we are coming towards the end of an era and it needs to be enjoyed.
Roadrunner

Outstanding.
Roadsterstu

That looks truly fantastic. Enjoy PG  
Boxer6

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Looks great, may you enjoy many happy miles together.  I know that disenchantment with the 'modern way' is how one becomes a classic car stereotype, but you're in the modern era of reliability and usability yet still get a proper V8 soundtrack and accompanying grunt.  I think the future will have great cars in it, but we are coming towards the end of an era and it needs to be enjoyed.


This, in spades. Enjoy it as I hope I would if ever the opportunity comes my way!!  

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