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Chris M Wanted a V-10

The barn-find Honda - final (?) update

OK, so following on from earlier posts, sadly the wife of the gent who passed away in 2011 has passed on herself and my Dad and I are Executors of the Estate.  The car needs to be sold on so I hope nobody objects to a request/ad on this forum.  We have established that the previous person who made contact is no longer interested.....
P190BPL
Honda Civic 2-door coupe 1.6 LS auto in blue.
First registered in Nov 1996
Mileage shown on display is 25070; 1 owner but we can't find the V5 or handbook or service book; ownership may have been transferred to his wife making 2 owners.
DVLA have indicated that car should be sold without V5 and new owner will have to pay £25 for a new one and apply along with some forms, tax (VED) application and MoT cert.

Car has been garaged and is covered in dust, inside and out, but was apparently started and ran OK around the turn of the year 2014-2015.  Tyres still inflated but battery dead.  Slight paint scuff to front bumper but no other damage observed as yet - hard to tell conclusively as passenger side is close to the garage wall.
No key found as yet but we have the master key from which others can be programmed and cut by a dealer (also have the original V5 that has been replaced at least twice by newer designs).

Car located in private road (so could be driven a short distance if started to check for untoward noises etc) on Leatherhead side of Guildford in GU1 postcode area.
Similar cars in good running order (but much higher mileages) seem to be fetching around £750 to £1000.

Anyone interested? Offers? Please send PM
Roadsterstu

Although it seems a shame to do it and it takes time and you need space but how about breaking it for parts?
TreVoR

If it was a VTi manual then I could see people being interested but not in 1.6 auto form.  If the body shell is tidy then someone will want it for a project.  Personally, I would stick it on eBay.
BeN

Sounds like it could be a neat cheap buy for a young driver looking for a reliable ride.
Big Blue

TreVoR wrote:
If it was a VTi manual then I could see people being interested but not in 1.6 auto form.  If the body shell is tidy then someone will want it for a project.  

Personally, I would stick it on eBay.


Yep, me too.
Frank Bullitt

Sounds like a candidate for banger racing
Racing Teatray

BeN wrote:
Sounds like it could be a neat cheap buy for a young driver looking for a reliable ride.


I should think being a 1.6 auto coupe will be a killer insurance-wise.
BeN

Perhaps. But that aside, it's perfect!
PhilD

Frank Bullitt wrote:
Sounds like a candidate for banger racing


or this

gonnabuildabuggy

Ebay is your only option.

They have a (small) following, but the Auto is a killer, therefore it will really only appeal to another pensioner.

I'd get it started, get it out of the garage, take some pics and put it on ebay.

I suspect you'll be lucky to get £200.
Resident Spanner

Yep, as above, if not for the auto I would have been interested myself, but auto plus being stood and the associated issues that causes - just knocks it off the radar.

I'd ebay it, it's your best chance at decent money, but don't expect miracles.
gonnabuildabuggy

Resident Spanner wrote:
Yep, as above, if not for the auto I would have been interested myself, but auto plus being stood and the associated issues that causes - just knocks it off the radar.

I'd ebay it, it's your best chance at decent money, but don't expect miracles.


Similar, any interest I had was kicked by the auto, and no matter what, in today's market it's worth scrap price, nothing more.  Plus if I have to get it trailered then that's £100 plus before you start.

If you did want to max the value then get it running, MOT it and then use it yourself for 6 months so you can sell it as a runner.

Remember I just paid (well big little GBB paid) £300 for a 53 plate Focus with 6 months plus ticket and FSH on it. That needed a small amount of fixing but a far better option than the Civic.
Giant

I can't see it breaking £200 unfortunately, too many good 'bangers' for £500 or less.I can't even imagine there's much demand for parts for that gen civic. Good luck though.
Bob Sacamano

If it's got a spare wheel I may be interested.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

It's got a spare wheel (looks like a space-saver though).. but no ignition key! We have not yet found one although we have the red programming key. Honda now inform me that they don't do keys for a car of this age so it may have to be scrapped for the want of a key :-(

Will have to try auto locksmiths next, I suppose :-(

If we can find a blank key, a dealer can cut and programme it using the red master key, but that key itself cannot be used to start the car.

May have to sell for spares - it's got half a tank of fuel (gauge indicates the level even when the ignition is off).

Changing subject, Anyone want an 8x4 (2/3rds size) snooker table complete with balls (10 reds), scoreboard and rest? £20 and buyer collects
Michael

The keys will turn up. They'll be in a tea pot or something.
gooner

Can't you just hot wire it?
Resident Spanner

I'd've ripped the snooker table from your hands for £20 if it wasn't so bloody far :P
Big Blue

Fuck knows what that petrol is like! Separated to buggery I suspect.

I'm betting you have to pay to get the car removed on the current evidence.
Humphrey The Pug

If you are looking at £200 on Ebay, I wouldn't bother due to the hassle with photos, getting it moved etc and the listing cost, I would just get a scrapper to collect it for £120.
PhilD

Michael wrote:
The keys will turn up, just after you have new ones made


FYP
Resident Spanner

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
If you are looking at £200 on Ebay, I wouldn't bother due to the hassle with photos, getting it moved etc and the listing cost, I would just get a scrapper to collect it for £120.


If you can get a scrapper to collect for £120 then please, send him my way, scrap has dropped through the floor the last year, it's barely £40 a ton at the minute, and staying there for a while. If you're lucky they might come and take it for free!

I've 7 tons of steel outside in a skip and most places want £100 paying to them to come and pick it up!
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Far, far worse than not being able to find the keys is that the deceased's body appears to have been lost in a mix-up at the morgue / cold store...... all sorts of excuses are being made to the daughter who has travelled from the USA to prevent her from seeing her mum for one last time.  No DNA match made yet with swabs taken from the house (and now from the daughter) plus a comment of "we have her dentures" to which the response was "my mom doesn't wear dentures, she still has her own teeth"......
Roadsterstu

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Far, far worse than not being able to find the keys is that the deceased's body appears to have been lost in a mix-up at the morgue / cold store...... all sorts of excuses are being made to the daughter who has travelled from the USA to prevent her from seeing her mum for one last time.  No DNA match made yet with swabs taken from the house (and now from the daughter) plus a comment of "we have her dentures" to which the response was "my mom doesn't wear dentures, she still has her own teeth"......


Oh fuck.
Big Blue

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Far, far worse than not being able to find the keys is that the deceased's body appears to have been lost in a mix-up at the morgue / cold store...... all sorts of excuses are being made to the daughter who has travelled from the USA to prevent her from seeing her mum for one last time.  No DNA match made yet with swabs taken from the house (and now from the daughter) plus a comment of "we have her dentures" to which the response was "my mom doesn't wear dentures, she still has her own teeth"......


Anyone seen Bride of Frankenstein? Is the cadaver plugged into the mains?
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Update - we now have one key.... and it looks very much like the deceased's body has been mixed up, so watch out for another national news headline with the NHS, a trust or whatever being sued from the USA for a million dollars or thereabouts.....
PhilD

You found the key but lost a body. Chris , your life is very much like a 1970s sitcom  
Bob Sacamano

PhilD wrote:
You found the key but lost a body. Chris , your life is very much like a 1970s sitcom  


Has anyone checked the boot - particularly the spare wheel well?
Chris M Wanted a V-10

I didn't lose the body, it went missing at the hospital ! There's a spare wheel in the spare wheel well.

The hospital sent the body to the crematorium - are they supposed to do that? They had the info on which Funeral Director should have been contacted to arrange collection but it looks like they wanted to dispose of the evidence by conveniently having it cremated, on the basis that they thought it was that of a vagrant
Humphrey The Pug

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
I didn't lose the body, it went missing at the hospital ! There's a spare wheel in the spare wheel well.

The hospital sent the body to the crematorium - are they supposed to do that? They had the info on which Funeral Director should have been contacted to arrange collection but it looks like they wanted to dispose of the evidence by conveniently having it cremated, on the basis that they thought it was that of a vagrant


Is it wrong of me to have had a little chuckle to myself?!
Bob Sacamano

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
I didn't lose the body, it went missing at the hospital ! There's a spare wheel in the spare wheel well.

The hospital sent the body to the crematorium - are they supposed to do that? They had the info on which Funeral Director should have been contacted to arrange collection but it looks like they wanted to dispose of the evidence by conveniently having it cremated, on the basis that they thought it was that of a vagrant


I have to say Chris this all sounds very dodgy; suddenly you're executor of a will with a Honda to sell, the body's gone missing, the house has been "cleansed" of all DNA, random dentures are appearing and you've taken up snooker.

I'm almost frightened to ask Humph if he's lent you any suitcases recently.
BeN

Whoa.

That is some fucked up shit happening there...
PG

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
I didn't lose the body, it went missing at the hospital ! There's a spare wheel in the spare wheel well.

The hospital sent the body to the crematorium - are they supposed to do that? They had the info on which Funeral Director should have been contacted to arrange collection but it looks like they wanted to dispose of the evidence by conveniently having it cremated, on the basis that they thought it was that of a vagrant


I have to say Chris this all sounds very dodgy; suddenly you're executor of a will with a Honda to sell, the body's gone missing, the house has been "cleansed" of all DNA, random dentures are appearing and you've taken up snooker.

I'm almost frightened to ask Humph if he's lent you any suitcases recently.


I know that I really should not laugh. But I'm sorry, I couldn't help it.

But getting a body mixed up is pretty serious. People say you should always go and see you relative at the funeral home before the burial / cremation. Just so you know it is actually them. I always thought that was a joke, but maybe not......  
Humphrey The Pug

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
I didn't lose the body, it went missing at the hospital ! There's a spare wheel in the spare wheel well.

The hospital sent the body to the crematorium - are they supposed to do that? They had the info on which Funeral Director should have been contacted to arrange collection but it looks like they wanted to dispose of the evidence by conveniently having it cremated, on the basis that they thought it was that of a vagrant


I have to say Chris this all sounds very dodgy; suddenly you're executor of a will with a Honda to sell, the body's gone missing, the house has been "cleansed" of all DNA, random dentures are appearing and you've taken up snooker.

I'm almost frightened to ask Humph if he's lent you any suitcases recently.


No suitcase; he wanted me to drop it out to him, I said "you collect or you don't have it"!
PhilD

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
I didn't lose the body, it went missing at the hospital ! There's a spare wheel in the spare wheel well.

The hospital sent the body to the crematorium - are they supposed to do that? They had the info on which Funeral Director should have been contacted to arrange collection but it looks like they wanted to dispose of the evidence by conveniently having it cremated, on the basis that they thought it was that of a vagrant


I have to say Chris this all sounds very dodgy; suddenly you're executor of a will with a Honda to sell, the body's gone missing, the house has been "cleansed" of all DNA, random dentures are appearing and you've taken up snooker.

I'm almost frightened to ask Humph if he's lent you any suitcases recently.


No suitcase; he wanted me to drop it out to him, I said "you collect or you don't have it"!


You're a brave man Humph. Chris keeps bricks in his boot and no one is sure why.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Well, the body's turned up safely back at the Funeral Directors, and will be exported to the USA for further DNA testing.  Meanwhile the Honda's still in the garage and it looks like the snooker table will be off to Latvia.....



Should I start to write a book?
Resident Spanner

I'm getting interested again now - how many millions in cocaine are hidden in it again?
Bob Sacamano

Did it make its own way back?
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Gets worse.....
A friend of a friend of my parents was interested in the Honda, came and looked at it.
The next day he had a sudden heart attack and died, aged 59 :-(
Resident Spanner

I've changed my mind, you can keep it.
Giant

Either, you, the Civic or the snooker table is cursed!
Humphrey The Pug

This is hilarious.
Bryan M

This would make a great film....
Big Blue

Just had a catch-up and am still laughing out loud in the office.

I thought they'd canned Terry and June long ago, but it seems not.....
Michael

Bryan M wrote:
This would make a great film....


But nobody would believe it!
Bob Sacamano

It could be the new British romcom ;Four Corpses and a Honda.

Chris will obviously be played by Hugh Grant with Dame Maggie Smith as the Corpse.

Colin Firth will play the mysterious suitcase delivery man who works days in a Renault garage.
Michael

I imagined it more like The Burbs with Chris being the mysterious neighbour loading bricks into his car.
PhilD

Breaking Bad with Chris as Heisenberg
Roadsterstu

Sorry, but this has really brightened up my afternoon  
PG

Life truly is weirder than satire.

And funnier.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

PG wrote:
Life truly is weirder than satire.

And funnier.

So funny that I corpsed.....
Michael

Where did you find the key in the end?
Big Blue

Michael wrote:
Where did you find the key - in the end?


FYP for lewd comedy effect.
Bob Sacamano

Big Blue wrote:
Michael wrote:
Where did you find the key - in the end?


FYP for lewd comedy effect.


Are you saying this is not the end of the story and there's a butt coming up?
Michael

Big Blue wrote:
Michael wrote:
Where did you find the key - in the end?


FYP for lewd comedy effect.


Thanks!
So, when is the first script writers meeting for Carry on Corpses? I assume you can get a stiff in the back of Ford Galaxy, oooo-Matron cor blimey?!
PhilD

The great thing about keyless entry is that you just need to wave the corpse near the car to open it.
Bryan M

Michael wrote:
Big Blue wrote:
Michael wrote:
Where did you find the key - in the end?


FYP for lewd comedy effect.


Thanks!
So, when is the first script writers meeting for Carry on Corpses? I assume you can get a stiff in the back of Ford Galaxy, oooo-Matron cor blimey?!


It depends if there is a spare wheel in the way!  
Michael

Fat corpse issues, spare tyre.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Michael wrote:
Where did you find the key in the end?

It was mysteriously posted through the letterbox in an envelope on which the neighbour had written "Here is the car key" or similar... 3 weeks after he denied having any keys or property of the deceased.  I've had another long day off work at the house today. Still no sign of the V5 or handbook etc but I have got most of the recent service invoices and MoT certificates.  I'd like to spend just under £60 from the Estate on a battery and get it started.  No aircon and it has a radio-cassette player
Giant

The mystery gets deeper!

Whilst I appreciate the apparent waste of a seemingly good car, I really think spending money on getting the car running is a waste of time and money. Unless you want the car for yourself, I think you'll be best off just giving the local scrapyard a call and getting them to collect it.
Bryan M

Can you not charge the existing battery?
gooner

Giant wrote:
The mystery gets deeper!

Whilst I appreciate the apparent waste of a seemingly good car, I really think spending money on getting the car running is a waste of time and money. Unless you want the car for yourself, I think you'll be best off just giving the local scrapyard a call and getting them to collect it.


Afraid I have to agree, I think you're flogging a dead horse here.
BeN

Bloody hell. I'd watch this movie!
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Giant wrote:
The mystery gets deeper!

Whilst I appreciate the apparent waste of a seemingly good car, I really think spending money on getting the car running is a waste of time and money.....

The Edd China in me wants to save it, however.....

A discussion with my insurance broker this morning suggests a little over £200 for one month's temporary insurance cover. It will then need to be driven to an MoT station and there''s another £50, plus whatever needs doing. OK so it was serviced less than 100 miles ago but if nothing else it will need new brake fluid and should have a fresh tank of petrol, If it passes the MoT it's over £20 per month for VED/car tax.... and it will be worth around £200, £400 max.  So.... we can try to charge the existing battery and get it started but after that it will be scrap unless we can find someone, maybe a local trader, who would take it as seen for around £200
Bryan M

Have you got a picture of it?

I am amazed at the price of the temp insurance - the Lotus doesn't cost that for a year and the Porsche isn't far off!
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Piccies as best as I could manage on Friday:
Looks like it's been midly attacked at the rear by someone hitting the garage door, that has marked the rear bumper (marks rubbed out by hand pressure with a cloth) but unclipped the sides:







and the mileage.....
PG

The easiest way to see if it will start would be to push it out of the garage and jump it off another car. Even if the battery fitted is beyond dead, that would work. That saves the £60.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

The driveway slopes steeply downwards to the garage so not possible to push it out, sadly. Next time I intend to take my battery charger and an extension lead (and a multimeter).

There's certainly enough material to make a film from what we have found in the house. Two people each having very unhappy, if not disastrous first marriages with children involved. Each divorces then fate brings them together, they fall in love and are blissfully happy until death does them part
Bob Sacamano

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
The driveway slopes steeply downwards to the garage so not possible to push it out, sadly. Next time I intend to take my battery charger and an extension lead (and a multimeter).

There's certainly enough material to make a film from what we have found in the house. Two people each having very unhappy, if not disastrous first marriages with children involved. Each divorces then fate brings them together, they fall in love and are blissfully happy until death does them part


That's been done by Hollywood. You'd need to add a twist e.g they buy a  second hand Honda but find a body concealed in the spare wheel well and their comedic attempts to dispose of it.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

...except that this Honda was bought new, and he traded in a P-reg Civic 5-door 1.4 for it, which had around 1000 miles on the clock (and which he'd also bought new). If my memory is correct, at the time the plate change was annual on 1 August and the coupe was first registered on 5 Nov 1996, so he would only have had the traded-in Civic for a max of  3 months and a week.....

..... and he had a problem with the oxygen sensor on the coupe and there is correspondence between him and Honda UK in Japanese concerning pricing and component/sensor lifetime
Bob Sacamano

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
...except that this Honda was bought new, and he traded in a P-reg Civic 5-door 1.4 for it, which had around 1000 miles on the clock (and which he'd also bought new). If my memory is correct, at the time the plate change was annual on 1 August and the coupe was first registered on 5 Nov 1996, so he would only have had the traded-in Civic for a max of  3 months and a week.....

..... and he had a problem with the oxygen sensor on the coupe and there is correspondence between him and Honda UK in Japanese concerning pricing and component/sensor lifetime


Straight to DVD that.....
Chris M Wanted a V-10

No DVD, I told you it had a radio-cassette in the dash.....
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Well, local used car dealer turned up this morning and the Honda's battery proved so dead that it would not take any charge.  A set of jump leads from a booster pack and it fired and ran for a second or two.  Second turn of the key, and up it fired and ran......... unevenly.  3 seconds at 2000rpm, 1 second at 1000 rpm, 3 seconds at 2000 rpm, 1 second at 1000rpm and so on.  Once the accelerator was pressed, it would run above 2000rpm but a bit lumpily.

There was also a fair bit of bodywork damage on both sides and the front, nothing major but loads of work to fill, smooth and respray.


No apparent fluid leaks, and it reversed up the sloping driveway on its own with little effort.  It was also driven onto the low-loader with no problems, and I have asked to be informed when it's been done up
Resident Spanner

What you didn't hear about was it snapped the ropes at the garage, rolled off the back of the truck and ran the guy over....
TreVoR

Surely you are not spending the estate's money on doing it up?
Chris M Wanted a V-10

No. We sold it to the trader.
PG

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
No. We sold it to the trader.


For not much I expect?

In a few months I'll expect to see it totally done up and on offer at £75,000 on that weird web site that has hugely overpriced rare but undesirable classics on. The one that had the Honda Town car at £60k or some such.....
Roadsterstu

I assume he's not looked in the boot yet...
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Roadsterstu wrote:
I assume he's not looked in the boot yet...

Yes he has, I cleared it out of all but the spare wheel and jack etc under the floor.....
Roadsterstu

You could have had a spare spare wheel. Missed opportunity!  
Giant

Roadsterstu wrote:
You could have had a spare spare wheel. Missed opportunity!  
Humphrey The Pug

What did you get for it?
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
What did you get for it?

Under £200; was looking for max of £250 but taking into account that there were no costs of advertising, having to take another day off work to see potential purchasers etc, it's one less thing in the Estate to worry about.... it was trailered away same day and will now be subjected to some TLC which I just didn't have time for.
Roadrunner

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Humphrey The Pug wrote:
What did you get for it?

Under £200; was looking for max of £250 but taking into account that there were no costs of advertising, having to take another day off work to see potential purchasers etc, it's one less thing in the Estate to worry about.... it was trailered away same day and will now be subjected to some TLC which I just didn't have time for.


I think you did well there. Certainly the right decision.
simonp

What I want to know is why Honda UK were writing letters to the former keeper in Japanese?
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Because he was Japanese, had a reliabilty/parts pricing issue so wrote to a Japanese Manager at Honda UK in Japanese
Roadsterstu

スペアタイヤはどのくらいです

Supeataiya wa dono kuraidesu
PhilD

Roadsterstu wrote:
スペアタイヤはどのくらいです

Supeataiya wa dono kuraidesu


"A body in the boot is worth two in the bushes"?
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Roadsterstu wrote:
スペアタイヤはどのくらいです

If Google translate is to be believed,  LOL !
PhilD

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Roadsterstu wrote:
スペアタイヤはどのくらいです

If Google translate is to be believed,  LOL !


ha!
Roadsterstu

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Roadsterstu wrote:
スペアタイヤはどのくらいです

If Google translate is to be believed,  LOL !


The power of Google!!
PG

PhilD wrote:
Roadsterstu wrote:
スペアタイヤはどのくらいです

Supeataiya wa dono kuraidesu


"A body in the boot is worth two in the bushes"?


   
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Final (?) update:
Had to go to Guildford yesterday (21st); called in to the traders... sadly it was raining but the Honda has been restored to its former glory (inside and out), a small fortune spent in the bodyshop to do so.  The engine was not running right as the petrol had deteriorated and gunged up the throttle body; the garage had 4 goes at striping it right down and cleaning it, and ran through all the old fuel in the tank plus put about 100 miles on the clock. It sold to the first people who went to look at it... from the far side of Tonbridge ! and it was due to be collected today. (it was advertised for a whisker under £1500).  Hoping it lasts for a good few more years and many thousands of miles.....
Andy C

£1500 for that ?!

Makes Blarnos mondeo even more of a bargain
Roadsterstu

1500 quid?? Bloody hell. Still, maybe it will run for many years now if properly looked after.  At least it lives.
the other ct

Has James Ruppert got the book/movie/TV rights then?
Chris M Wanted a V-10

the other ct wrote:
Has James Ruppert got the book/movie/TV rights then?

Well, he's been made aware of it.......

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