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Martin

Special Citroen Visa

If I squint a lot, it's a bit like my mums!

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23262/lot/337/#.VpQYPI5EoB0.twitter
Chris M Wanted a V-10

It's a little like my old one (1981 II Super E) which I traded in for the Honda.  It was enough to put me off Citroens for seemingly the rest of my life........ that the Citroen dealer offered me less for it as a trade-in against a new BX than the Honda dealer offered me speaks volumes......
Frank Bullitt

Doesn't look anything like my Dad's Visa Special!

Lovely though, if I had a collection that would get added to it.
Bob Sacamano

That looks OK, but the Visa was an unremittingly shit car. File with Chrysler Avenger.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Bob Sacamano wrote:
That looks OK, but the Visa was an unremittingly shit car. File with Chrysler Avenger.

Really?
Choose between a Visa, Metro and original Panda
Bob Sacamano

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
That looks OK, but the Visa was an unremittingly shit car. File with Chrysler Avenger.

Really?
Choose between a Visa, Metro and original Panda


Or a Mk1 Fiesta, Mk.1 Polo, Renault 5, or FIAT 127 which were contemporary competitors and all superior.

The problem with the Visa was that it was a good idea let down by the use of very cheap materials inside and poor rustproofing outside. Add in unreliability and it wasn't an attractive package.

To answer your original question - we bought a Panda FIRE 1000.
JohnC

Never really took to the Visa.

Bonhams "Buyer's Premium" makes the eye water a bit!
Martin

My mum chose her Visa 11 E (special edition) in 1983 over a Peugeot 205 purely because of the 0% finance deal.  I really wanted her to get the 205, but the Visa was OK.

She had it for over 10 years (replaced with a MG Montego) before passing it onto my sister and it was reliable and rust free the whole time.  My sister crashed it a couple of times, but it was still in great condition when she traded it in for a Rover Metro.
Giant

Martin wrote:
My mum chose her Visa 11 E (special edition) in 1983 over a Peugeot 205 purely because of the 0% finance deal.  I really wanted her to get the 205, but the Visa was OK.

She had it for over 10 years (replaced with a MG Montego) before passing it onto my sister and it was reliable and rust free the whole time.  My sister crashed it a couple of times, but it was still in great condition when she traded it in for a Rover Metro.


You clearly didn't get your discerning taste in cars from the females in your family then!  
Roadsterstu

Giant wrote:
Martin wrote:
My mum chose her Visa 11 E (special edition) in 1983 over a Peugeot 205 purely because of the 0% finance deal.  I really wanted her to get the 205, but the Visa was OK.

She had it for over 10 years (replaced with a MG Montego) before passing it onto my sister and it was reliable and rust free the whole time.  My sister crashed it a couple of times, but it was still in great condition when she traded it in for a Rover Metro.


You clearly didn't get your discerning taste in cars from the females in your family then!  


It's easy to see what directed Martin down his chosen route!
Martin

Giant wrote:
You clearly didn't get your discerning taste in cars from the females in your family then!  




My mum swapped the Montego for a Cavalier SRi 130and then took my dads company cars on when he swapped them, the best one was a 95 Aero, before getting a 107 and then the up!   My sisters highlight was a Bravo 20v HGT, which I thought was fairly awful at the time but it made a nice noise.  She has an Altea XL now, which isn't very exciting, but she did go for the 1.4TSi rather than a diesel.

Roadsterstu wrote:
It's easy to see what directed Martin down his chosen route!


Not sure what you mean?  My Dad always had big comfortable cars, which is where my preference has come from and he bought a new Boxster back in 1999 (kept it for about 10 years), which I loved.
PG

Nope. Sorry. I'm really not getting that, at all. The Visa never had any appeal for me.
Frank Bullitt

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
That looks OK, but the Visa was an unremittingly shit car. File with Chrysler Avenger.

Really?
Choose between a Visa, Metro and original Panda


Or a Mk1 Fiesta, Mk.1 Polo, Renault 5, or FIAT 127 which were contemporary competitors and all superior.

The problem with the Visa was that it was a good idea let down by the use of very cheap materials inside and poor rustproofing outside. Add in unreliability and it wasn't an attractive package.

To answer your original question - we bought a Panda FIRE 1000.


Nope, I don't recognise the description of the Visa - I do remember a small amount of rust on a front corner of the bonnet but otherwise it was fine, and reliable too, it was the flat-twin 2-pot engine.

What it did have, in 1981, was rear doors which none of the competition you cite (except perhaps the R5) could offer which as a family car was important.

We used it for 7 years as our main car, it towed a trailer and we went all over in it, slowly, as the top end was 77mph. He wanted a 1.1 but they were on 3 month delivery and his 9 year old Renault 6 had no chance of passing it's MOT, the dealership in Eaglescliffe had a flat-twin so he bought that.

It was a decent car.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Bob Sacamano wrote:

The problem with the Visa was that it was a good idea let down by ... and poor rustproofing outside. Add in unreliability and it wasn't an attractive package.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxf6UFxrZf8
(not sure why the ad is still available on YouTube) but rustproofing definitely wasn't an issue.  Can't remember if it came with Ziebart or Dinol but after 12 months, it had to go in for "re-proofing" which then lasted the life of the car (from memory).  Certainly the amount of gunge applied to the underside of mine (and inside the door cavities etc) meant that there was zero chance of rust developing so long as the protective layer remained intact.

As to reliability...... whilst mine never broke down, it was very fragile and several key items failed, including the windscreen washer pump on the day before its (already booked) first MoT.  Cue frantic phonecalls to a few dealers to try to track down a replacement and a reaonable journey prior to the MoT itself
Bob Sacamano

We always view our childhood cars through rose-tinted spectacles. The Visa was very light because it was very flimsy, although the rust-proofing did improve towards the end of production.

When I was a kid my dad had a Mk3 Cortina 2000E and I swore blind it was far better than the family next door's Volvo 244GLE. It wasn't but I still won't admit it.
Frank Bullitt

Ours was 1981, one of the earlier Visa II's (once they had got rid of the awful pig nose). It was slow but I remember it being very comfortable indeed, the interior was brown and all the switches on the satellite binnacle.

As small cars went it was decent, I don't think anything at the time was terribly solid and how the world changed as nobody at the time bought Polo's.

I like the Panda too, mind, and would certainly have short-listed that at the time of looking for a small car.

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