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Bob Sacamano

Renault Captur 1.5dci Dynamic Nav

I decided to take the train up to Aberdeen this week and book a hire car. I'd asked for a Golf or equivalent and they supplied me a Captur (which isn't equivalent but I'll let that one slide). I didn't complain as I'd never driven a Captur and thought it'd be interesting to try.





It only had 6k on the clock and looked quite good in its silver with black roof, a nice set of alloys and an interior that had the touchscreen nav. My phone paired up easily enough and the nav was a doddle to set up so I headed off into the city.

Thoughts:

Despite preferring the looks of the Clio to the Captur there were some nice design touches inside; the sliding rear seat idea is something I've always liked from the Nissan - though if you didn't have it slid right back there were a lot of rattles from the rear as the parcel shelf bounced about. A good sized storage area under the boot floor increased the load carrying ability by a decent amount. Forgot to check for spare wheel.

As I said the nav was good but the phone audio only came out of one speaker on the driver's side which was a bit mean.

The 1.5 diesel engine pulled well and you got the feeling it would be at hone on the motorway and tackle long journeys well. It averaged 47mpg in my hands  - about the same as the 1.5 Focus diesel I have on hire down here.

The zip off seat covers you could wash were a good idea -  particularly as these cars seem to be driven by a lot of pensioners...

Nice driving position and steering wheel. Handling around the country roads near Aberdeen was safe and predictable.

The dashboard and door cover plastics was horribly thin and hollow sounding although they'd done a decent job of giving it some texture to hide this. A bit of gloss black did its best to lift the interior quality.

The heating and ventilation controls felt very flimsy and wobbled all over the place as you turned them.

The gearlever annoyed me as it had a very prominent and uncomfortable stitching seam up the back of it, just where your palm fell.

To be honest that's all relatively minor stuff and I came away with a generally positive opinion of the Captur although I think, given the choice, I'd take the Clio, which is a very pretty looking car.

The big revelation was when I got back in the Focus hire car in Newcastle. It felt so much better, the steering, the gearchange, clutch, and the interior quality was on a completely different level. It also didn't feel any lower to sit in. They're not direct competitors but It'd be interesting to look at the cost to fund a new Captur and a lightly used Focus.
Frank Bullitt

Re: Renault Captur 1.5dci Dynamic Nav

Bob Sacamano wrote:
They're not direct competitors but It'd be interesting to look at the cost to fund a new Captur and a lightly used Focus.


Of course by the same token you should compare a lightly used Captur with a lightly used Focus and the difference in cost remains.

There was lots I liked about the Captur, both the 0.9tce and 1.5dCi, I was put off by the interior quality in too many areas and the poor paint away from the visible surfaces.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Re: Renault Captur 1.5dci Dynamic Nav

Frank Bullitt wrote:
.... and the poor paint away from the visible surfaces.


This has been a Renault bugbear for many years. On my old Scenic (1998) the undercoat/primer was showing through the paint under the bonnet/front bulkhead and on the shut surfaces of the tailgate. I complained and was old that "they're all like that, the top coat isn't needed in those areas" and sure enough, examining the cars in the showroom showed the same issues. The Captur is the same, plus the metallic paint in those areas is not polished like the outside, but left all dull and bubbly.  It's a very obvious sign of cost-cutting and gives the impression of poor quality / slap-dash finish.

Interior plastics are largely hard and tinny, but they're dsesigned to withstand the battering by young kids and/or "outdoor types" wearing walking boots/wellies, and they do stand up to abuse reasonably well.  It's no Focus, but then it wasn't designed to be.
Humphrey The Pug

The part finish in the hidden areas is like that in the name of being more environmentally friendly.
Frank Bullitt

The problem being they aren't that hidden! Open the boot and it stares you in the face, other cars have the same but it's generally covered with trim - as an example.
Roadsterstu

Seems a fair write up of the Captur, Bob. I think it's a nice enough car but not enough to tempt me into one. Ex Mrs R loves hers though. In terms of materials quality I don't think it's that much different from the Mazda2, the Astras we have at work or much else within a comparable new car price range. The Focus is bound to be a revelation in terms of steering and handling - my 11 year old V50 was after driving the Captur.
Humphrey The Pug

Got the use of a 1.5dCi for the next two weeks, including a near 200 mile drive to Great Yarmouth tonight, loaded up with pressies, luggage, food, two (small) dogs, wife and daughter, I don't even know if it's all going to fit. I suppose I could leave the wife behind! It is surprising though how much you can get into a Captur.

Agree on the interior plastics comment, it is hard wearing but a bit cheap looking even though it is well put together, reminds me a bit of Japanese interior plastics.

It'll be interesting what mpg I can get, I always start off any long journey with the best intentions of going for economy but within half an hour I decide; sod it I want to get there asap, so I floor it.
gonnabuildabuggy

Slightly off topic, but the more I drive big little GBB's Focus, the more I like it.
Roadsterstu

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Slightly off topic, but the more I drive big little GBB's Focus, the more I like it.


Totally off topic, more like!  

Humph, the ex got a trip computer indicated 56mpg on her return trip to Bath from the Midlands, using the Fosse Way, rather than the motorway, last week.  I thought that was pretty impressive.
Humphrey The Pug

Well I got everything in; fuck knows how, now just waiting for the wife to get in from work.
Roadsterstu

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Well I got everything in; fuck knows how, now just waiting for the wife to get in from work.


They are not big cars but the boot is a useful size and the extra height helps when packing the boot up. The rear feels quite roomy, too. That space plus a roof box really should be more than enough for a family holiday.
Humphrey The Pug

Roadsterstu wrote:
Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Well I got everything in; fuck knows how, now just waiting for the wife to get in from work.


They are not big cars but the boot is a useful size and the extra height helps when packing the boot up. The rear feels quite roomy, too. That space plus a roof box really should be more than enough for a family holiday.


It was the big box of Christmas presents and a Christmas tree that made it hard.

We have a customer who has one baby, he bought a Captur before finding out his wife was pregnant, he wants out of the Captur as it is too small; FFS a Captur is plenty big enough, I've had people come out of Clio's and gone into Captur's; with two kids and they find it fine.

Oh and the wife was an hour late home, "I got chatting", I was not a happy bunny as a) we had a three hour drive ahead of us, b) I was sitting around for an hour, waiting for her and c) she wasn't answering her phone or responding to texts so I was genuinely worried as to her whereabouts.
PhilD

Roadsterstu wrote:
Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Well I got everything in; fuck knows how, now just waiting for the wife to get in from work.


They are not big cars but the boot is a useful size and the extra height helps when packing the boot up. The rear feels quite roomy, too. That space plus a roof box really should be more than enough for a family holiday.


I'm definitely getting old as I spend far too much time thinking about roof boxes.
Martin

I can't be that old then, as the thought of a roof box fills me with horror!  
Frank Bullitt

Martin wrote:
I can't be that old then, as the thought of a roof box fills me with horror!  


Nah, carrying all that extra capacity around all the time fills me with horror!

The boot in the Captur is fine - with a roof box it would have been perfectly decent for our camping trips (the DS4 is about the same size and that's spot-on).
PhilD

*roof box and camping*

Martin passes out.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
We have a customer who has one baby, he bought a Captur before finding out his wife was pregnant, he wants out of the Captur as it is too small

You could point out to your customer that my wife and I managed with a Mk I Fiat Uno with 2 babies.

Humphrey The Pug wrote:

Oh and the wife was an hour late home, "I got chatting", I was not a happy bunny as ... c) she wasn't answering her phone or responding to texts so I was genuinely worried as to her whereabouts.

Women are like that, haven't you realised yet ??? (and you have daughters too.....)
Martin

PhilD wrote:
*roof box and camping*

Martin passes out.




I like the luxury, quality and refinement you get with a big car, it's not quite the same putting a coffin on a superminis roof...  

Seriously.....of course I understand how much sense it makes to have the size of car you want/need for 50 weeks of the year and use a roof box to boost its load capacity to go on holiday.

I must confess to having purchased a set of roof rails and some bike carriers.  I've not used them yet so don't know how annoying they will be, but even if they're only used for fairly short journeys to different places to cycle, it will be fine.

Chris, I'll remember that comment when you buy a big old Citroen!  

(Which should be your NY resolution!)

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