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Twelfth Monkey

RDQ: I'd least like to be seen driving a...

...prompted by the Range rover in 'My Favourite Parking', what would you least like to be seen driving?  This question is not therefore about how good or crappy a car actually is to drive, but about how you perceive a car's image (and think others will, too).

I think the RR Spurt and X6 are the first ones that cross my mind, with the former edging it.  They always seem (genuinely nastily) git-plated and driven in a horribly self-important fashion to me, which are things I am repulsed by.

Can't stand that crappy little Jeep, and there are plenty of rubbish and anonymous little boxes out there, but I'd rather be invisible than repellent.

If there are common responses, we might have to keep score and arrive at our least favourite 'to be seen in.'
Bob Sacamano

You've pretty much nailed it for me but I'd add any convertible. As a bloke you can get away with them up to about the age of 21 and as a retirement gift/project after the age of 65. It just doesn't look right a middle-aged man driving a convertible.
JohnC

Perhaps strangely I don't mind the RR Sport but I would not want to be seen dead in an X6. Also the new Merc X6 equivalent. Now I think about it, maybe a hearse is the one I would least like to be seen in!
Martin

What others think doesn't interest me so wouldn't influence what I buy, but there are plenty of cars I wouldn't want to walk up to on my drive.  Too many to list, but I agree with you on the original X6 and RR Sport and would add the GLE coupe (hideous) to the list of SUVs.  I'm not a fan of most MPVs and basic small cars, which is a pretty long list, as is the list of ugly cars....e.g. Juke, C4 Cactus, 5GT, Jeep Patriot, all Ssangyongs, 500L....etc.

Simon and Blarno and going to take hours to compile their lists  
Bob Sacamano

500L. I forgot about that.
Big Blue

X6, 3-series GT and 5-series GT. When I saw my first x6 on the way home up the King's Road I laughed out loud. The GT models of the 5 and 3 are just vile to look at and I can't see the point at all.

Bentley Continental GT thing, all types and specs. They look like lorries and are revolting.

There are actually so many cars I wouldn't have the list of what I would have is simpler. I own one of them, clearly.
Michael

I think anything slammed on its suspension or dubbed to death I'd be embarrassed to be seen in.
Frank Bullitt

Easy one for me - Bentley Continental GT.

I don't like the look of them, I don't like the 'footballer' image of them and every one I see is being driven poorly. It's a car that if given one for free I'd be straight on to eBay to sell it and until sold I wouldn't drive it.
Twelfth Monkey

That's exactly how I used to feel about them, but don't now.  The V8 version probably helps, and I suspect those who kick balls for a living have moved on!
Nice Guy Eddie

The current Conti I have a lot of time for unlike its predecessor but we're all different

For me something new and demonstrating you know nothing about cars, Vx Corsa, Viva, anything that's tall or MPVish. Anything like an X6 that other people might be offended by is fine by me, people want to get over it. A Discovery or Q7 might irritate me but that's more the useless drivers of them rather than the cars themselves.
gonnabuildabuggy

Frank Bullitt wrote:
I don't like the look of them, I don't like the 'footballer' image of them and every one I see is being driven poorly. It's a car that if given one for free I'd be straight on to eBay to sell it and until sold I wouldn't drive it.


That's the problem for many things for me, it's not the looks, it's the image for many things.

I think the original RR Sport is a fine looking car and I covet one, but I'm wary of the image it brings with it. Add to that list the X5, X6 and quite a few others, all of which are perfectly nice cars.

However, once a car gets a bit older some of that problem seems to go away and a nice early X5 4.6iS might be less of a problem. A Conti GT fits with that too and I'd happily have one.

Time also helps in general, I've always liked the 3GT but the 5GT has grown on me too (another basement barge thanks to being unloved).

Having just looked at RR Sports on AT they are obviously still popular looking at used prices.
Blarno

I'll drive anything once, but as far as owning:

Any Ferrari or Maserati. Zero interest in any of them and the bullshit that preceeds them.

Any VW except Scirocco or CC. The rest are just white goods.

Any posh roader. I refuse to call them SUVs as they are neither sporty nor utilitarian.

The image of a car doesn't bother me - if people are willing to judge me based on the car that I drive, then their opinion is worth even less than usual - but I have to like the way it looks at the very least.
franki68

A proper land rover,since they became a fashion item.
Fine on a farm ,but aside from that I'm not sure why anyone buys them ,atrocious to drive ,incredibly badly built,and half are blinged up to the 9s these days.
simonp

Anything with Rover in its name. I hate everything about those, with one of my biggest bugbears being that the headlights are set at just the right height to dazzle everyone driving a normal car. I was knocked off my bicycle by some prick in a Range Rover many years ago who never stopped, so my hatred may stem from that!

I've driven some really awful courtesy cars in my time, and died of embarrassment doing so. The worst must've been the Vauxhall Agila, but other specials imclude a baby blue Renault Modus and the Fiat 500 that could barely get up a hill.

I'd also hate to drive any sort of truck for a living, as that job seems to turn you into a complete cunt with too little disregard for the safety of anyone else but yourself. Roundabouts? No need to stop, the saps in their tiny cars will do that for you so they don't die. Villages with 30 limits? No need to slow down, you've got a delivery to make. 17 cars behind you and that other lorry? Make sure you block the overtaking lane so none of the cars can get past when you reach it. Etc, etc, etc...
PhilD

Bob Sacamano wrote:
500L. I forgot about that.


Stu predicted I'd be in one by the end of the year, 19 days to go...
PhilD

JohnC wrote:
Perhaps strangely I don't mind the RR Sport but I would not want to be seen dead in an X6. Also the new Merc X6 equivalent. Now I think about it, maybe a hearse is the one I would least like to be seen in!


An X6 hearse it is then!
Tim

I don't mind the look of the RR Spurt but its the image that would put me off (as well as the driving experience).
All the 1st gen ones now appear to be on huge aftermarket wheels with a desperate number plate and pimp glass.

I think the same applies to the X5 and the X6 has just never been something I'd want from day 1.
Bob Sacamano

Blarno wrote:


The image of a car doesn't bother me - if people are willing to judge me based on the car that I drive, then their opinion is worth even less than usual - but I have to like the way it looks at the very least.


But we all do that to others....
Racing Teatray

Oh there's a long list of contenders….

Any of the current Rolls Royce coupe or convertible models, especially if painted Dubai White.
In fact any Rolls or Bentley product painted white.
Any sort of coupe SUV (X6, GLE etc).
Any Range Rover or other sort of large SUV unless painted a sober dark colour that isn't black and not in "Sport" spec.
Ewok Convertible.
Renault Wind.
Latest gen Toyota Prius
Current Honda Civic Type-R
One of those huge American SUVs like an Escalade or similar (unless actually in America).
Ssangyong Rodius.
Anything fannied-up with unnecessary spoilers, drainpipe exhaust and after-market wheels.

I don't go a bundle on "driver-special" Porsches and Ferraris either – the types with stripes, big wings and centre-lock wheels. They might drive beautifully but they don't half look crass.
Blarno

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Blarno wrote:


The image of a car doesn't bother me - if people are willing to judge me based on the car that I drive, then their opinion is worth even less than usual - but I have to like the way it looks at the very least.


But we all do that to others....


I judge cars on how they're driven. RRSs and X5 live up to the stereotypes, as do Focii RS and Astra VXRs.

The worst for me are Prius drivers. Every single one that I encounter is piloted by a complete road captain chopper.
BeN

Hmm, I dunno. I'm fairly open minded when it comes to these things.

I guess anything modified to the high heavens is a no-no for me. Those silly Mansory/Kahn Design stuff.
PhilD

Blarno wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
Blarno wrote:


The image of a car doesn't bother me - if people are willing to judge me based on the car that I drive, then their opinion is worth even less than usual - but I have to like the way it looks at the very least.


But we all do that to others....


I judge cars on how they're driven. RRSs and X5 live up to the stereotypes, as do Focii RS and Astra VXRs.

The worst for me are Prius drivers. Every single one that I encounter is piloted by a complete road captain chopper.


And the next time you see a Prius you will make no judgement on the driver until you assess the driving. As they say this time of year Blarno, pull the other one, it plays Jingle Bells.
BeN

I hope to be the exception rather than the rule Blarno...
PhilD

It doesn't help that many Priuses are taxis, which, as we know, are exempt from road traffic rules.
Andy C

Smart Car

Any yummy mummy SUV/crossover type vehicle
Giant

I like to think I'm not overly concerned with what others think, but I did feel a bit silly when I was driving ExMrs Giant's Beetle in the summer.
Blarno

BeN wrote:
I hope to be the exception rather than the rule Blarno...


But you're never likely to be on the same road as me, so it's all good.

simonp

Any MINI, men should not be driving them. Any Toyota, which all look like they were designed by a mong on the wall of their padded cell using their own excrement. The Nissan Juke for the same reason. Good call above on the Smart car, but only the 2 seat one, the other one is passable.
gonnabuildabuggy

simonp wrote:
Any MINI, men should not be driving them. Any Toyota, which all look like they were designed by a mong on the wall of their padded cell using their own excrement. The Nissan Juke for the same reason. Good call above on the Smart car, but only the 2 seat one, the other one is passable.


Thanks.

Personally I love ours, it handles fantastically and cruises happily at 100 leptons whilst doing 50mpg.

Maybe it has the image of a woman's car but it's hard to think of a car with better handling and steering feel.
Roadrunner

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
simonp wrote:
Any MINI, men should not be driving them. Any Toyota, which all look like they were designed by a mong on the wall of their padded cell using their own excrement. The Nissan Juke for the same reason. Good call above on the Smart car, but only the 2 seat one, the other one is passable.


Thanks.

Personally I love ours, it handles fantastically and cruises happily at 100 leptons whilst doing 50mpg.

Maybe it has the image of a woman's car but it's hard to think of a car with better handling and steering feel.


I agree. I went for a blast through the lanes via Moreton-in-Marsh to Chipping Campden and back yesterday. Twas a barrel of laughs all the way.
Racing Teatray

And I confess to greatly enjoying driving my wife's very girly white 500 Twinair.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Would never like to be seen behind the wheel of:
BMW X6, Merc equivalent
Anything with a Chevrolet or Jeep badge
Any current Infiniti or Lexus
Any current MG
Nissan Juke
Renault Twizy
Roadrunner

Perodua Kenari
gooner

The Daewoo Matiz I learnt to drive in was pretty embarrassing and such a pile of shite that my first car after passing, an A ref Polo, actually felt like a step up.
Roadsterstu

PhilD wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
500L. I forgot about that.


Stu predicted I'd be in one by the end of the year, 19 days to go...


Do it for the Forum, Phil.
PhilD

Roadsterstu wrote:
PhilD wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
500L. I forgot about that.


Stu predicted I'd be in one by the end of the year, 19 days to go...


Do it for the Forum, Phil.


I can't see it happening this year now Stu, sorry all. However when I'm in for the Punto's service in the spring I might not be able to resist...
Twelfth Monkey

It would seem that the Spurt and X6 take the honours, with honourable mentions for 3 & 5GT, Juke, Jeeps in general (and SUVs in general).

We would seem to be mature men indeed, as per our strapline...
Grampa

BMW M3 (M4 is OK), any X BMW, any of the Audi Q thingys and any convertible - I've driven only four - an MG Midget was quite fun and , an MGB an MGF and a TVR 400 - I enjoyed them all on the open road but hated driving them roof down in town, I just had a feeling that everyone was looking at me thinking 'twat'.  The TVR was too noisy too, you could tell it was grating on everyone i the street - plus I had to go to a funeral on one the days it was in my tenure - I parked nearly a mile away!

Never had a problem driving little economy cars like the Matiz (although that's not one I've actually driven) - wouldn't want to own one though.
Tim

Grampa wrote:
BMW M3 (M4 is OK), .


I'd say the opposite, the M3 has subtlety against a certain brashness of the M4, not helped by most of those being driven by a wealthier offshoot of the Mark 1 Range Rover Spurt appreciation society.
BeN

Blarno wrote:
BeN wrote:
I hope to be the exception rather than the rule Blarno...


But you're never likely to be on the same road as me, so it's all good.



Well, you never know...
Giant

Tim wrote:
Grampa wrote:
BMW M3 (M4 is OK), .


I'd say the opposite, the M3 has subtlety against a certain brashness of the M4, not helped by most of those being driven by a wealthier offshoot of the Mark 1 Range Rover Spurt appreciation society.


I'm stealing that!
PhilD

BeN wrote:
Blarno wrote:
BeN wrote:
I hope to be the exception rather than the rule Blarno...


But you're never likely to be on the same road as me, so it's all good.



Well, you never know...


It would be one hell of a fare.
Grampa

Tim wrote:
Grampa wrote:
BMW M3 (M4 is OK), .


I'd say the opposite, the M3 has subtlety against a certain brashness of the M4


I thought that until I saw an M3 pull into a car park not long after the current model was introduced - it just made me think 'sales rep's car trying way too hard.'  The M4 is somehow more honest in my eyes.
gooner

PhilD wrote:
BeN wrote:
Blarno wrote:
BeN wrote:
I hope to be the exception rather than the rule Blarno...


But you're never likely to be on the same road as me, so it's all good.



Well, you never know...


It would be one hell of a fare.


Typical Uber driver taking the long way round.
PhilD

I can't think of anything "standard" and in my spec I'd be too worried about being seen driving. It's the chavved up stuff I have more of a problem with.
Martin

Having seen one in Coventry yesterday (must have been trying to forget about it), can I suggest the Evoque Convertible goes to the top of the list?!
Chocy Rocky

Martin wrote:
Having seen one in Coventry yesterday (must have been trying to forget about it), can I suggest the Evoque Convertible goes to the top of the list?!


They are the most ridiculous looking vehicle. I do wonder if their marketing try to make it a throw back to the original Series 1...still looks shite.

Personally, one of those Citroen Berlingo mini people carrier things. I wouldn't even make Mrs CR drive one.
PhilD

Chocy Rocky wrote:

Personally, one of those Citroen Berlingo mini people carrier things.


Ok, I'd forgotten about those!
simonp

I'm in the M3 rather than M4 camp, but in reality neither. If we're talking the V8 ones then I prefer the coupe.
Tim

simonp wrote:
I'm in the M3 rather than M4 camp, but in reality neither. If we're talking the V8 ones then I prefer the coupe.


The carbon roof on the 3 door ones irritates me. As if you're ever likely to see an M3/4 being driven in a way that the weight saving would actually make any difference  
Nice Guy Eddie

I love the CF roof on the M's, such a shame the M2 doesn't have one.
PhilD

Tim wrote:
Grampa wrote:
BMW M3 (M4 is OK), .


I'd say the opposite, the M3 has subtlety against a certain brashness of the M4,


Saloons are by default less brash than coupes.
Chip Butty

I don't like the attention you would get from driving something exceptionally expensive or showy. I don't like to stand out - particularly given my penchant for driving with exuberance when the opportunity allows

So that would rule out supercars, convertibles or anything that has been to see Barry the Ned (excessive mods, dayglo colours, wraps...urgh). As much as I would love an RR Ghost, I can imagine the rivers of hate I would have to wade through every time I drive it.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Anything with a git plate or pimp tints

BMW X4 or X6 (too tasteless)

Audi Q3 or Q5 (too boring)

Oligarch-spec G Class (though a million-mile khaki diesel would be OK)

Almost all current American cars (except, oddly enough, Cadillac saloons, which I think look quite good)
Tim

I'll add my voice to the dislike for any supercars - they only appear to have 2 types of driver:-
1) Youngish, muscly bloke who probably also has a git plated RR Spurt in black with pimp glass
2) Late middle-aged bloke with a penchant for Pringle jerseys
Bob Sacamano

Tim wrote:
I'll add my voice to the dislike for any supercars - they only appear to have 2 types of driver:-

2) Late middle-aged bloke with a penchant for Pringle jerseys


You called?
JohnC

Tim wrote:
I'll add my voice to the dislike for any supercars - they only appear to have 2 types of driver:-
1) Youngish, muscly bloke who probably also has a git plated RR Spurt in black with pimp glass
2) Late middle-aged bloke with a penchant for Pringle jerseys


They really should outlaw supercars because on the basis of the above you have to be a crook to buy one whilst being young enough to look cool (or a footballer) OR if you stick in and work hard, by the time you can afford it you are an old duffer and aren't allowed to be seen in one!

There is an old guy around my way that I see perhaps once a year on nice sunny days (or the nice sunny day) who drives a Carrera GT! I've never seen his Pringle but he always has a smile.
Tim

JohnC wrote:
Tim wrote:
I'll add my voice to the dislike for any supercars - they only appear to have 2 types of driver:-
1) Youngish, muscly bloke who probably also has a git plated RR Spurt in black with pimp glass
2) Late middle-aged bloke with a penchant for Pringle jerseys


They really should outlaw supercars because on the basis of the above you have to be a crook to buy one whilst being young enough to look cool (or a footballer) OR if you stick in and work hard, by the time you can afford it you are an old duffer and aren't allowed to be seen in one!

There is an old guy around my way that I see perhaps once a year on nice sunny days (or the nice sunny day) who drives a Carrera GT! I've never seen his Pringle but he always has a smile.


I know it's a generalisation  

Mind you the one and only time I've seen a Ferrari F50 in the flesh it was parked outside the pro shop of the golf club I used to play at and the tubby 60 year old owner was standing in the shop while wearing a Pringle jersey!!

I had some mild respect for him as there are a lot of severe speed bumps on the way to the club and I would've thought the F50 would struggle to get over them safely!
simonp

Good call on the Evoque ragtop. What were they thinking?!

I recall seeing a few Nissan Murano convertibles in Florida. Thank fuck they didn't make it across the pond!
Chris M Wanted a V-10

simonp wrote:
Good call on the Evoque ragtop. What were they thinking?!


I've seen a couple of Evoque drop-tops and although they are not my cup of tea, I think they look quite decent
Giant

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
simonp wrote:
Good call on the Evoque ragtop. What were they thinking?!


I've seen a couple of Evoque drop-tops and although they are not my cup of tea, I think they look quite decent


+1. I'd never want one, but equally don't understand the hate.

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