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PhilD

Pricey Pug

One of my lottery day dreams is about the little run around I'd have for trips to gym, shops etc. As a child of that time an 80s hot hatch is usually high up on the list, but I better win it soon judging by this!

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/222027775802?_mwBanner=1
Frank Bullitt

Shit the bed, I thought it was going to be some 10k chancer - a third of that will buy perfection, that's just ridiculous!
Bob Sacamano

The other night the Cockney Twat was on Wheeler Dealers buying a half decent 1.9 GTi for a grand for Ed to fettle. A cambelt, waterpmp, steering wheel, parcel shelf and gear linkages later and he was delighted to sell it for 2200.

He'll be crying into his jellied eels if he sees that.
PhilD

Nice colour though.
Frank Bullitt

205 GTi looks top-notch in pretty much any colour, although Sorrento Green and Laser Green do set it off nicely with Miami Blue making a showing too.

Modern Classics has an article comparing th 205GTi, R5 GT Turbo and Mk2 Golf GTi 16v which is worth a read, one thing they comment on for the 205 is the small footwell which is, strangely, something I'd have suggested it has the exact opposite of; I was always utterly impressed with the amount of space (and comfort) in my old 205. Sensational car, and I imagine the GTi is just a peach.

3k will get a straight driveable car, this isn't really appealing to be honest.
Big Blue

Laughed out loud at that.

There's an E92 M3 on AT (I know I know. Financial year ends in March then I'll actually do something about it!) for sale by private seller. Comp pack but no extended leather. It's about 5k over what I can get from a dealer with extended leather, some form of warranty and prep. I can even get BMW AUC for less.

Some sellers really are pissing up a rope in a strong wind.
gonnabuildabuggy

Frank Bullitt wrote:


3k will get a straight driveable car, this isn't really appealing to be honest.


Indeed - chancer, perhaps motivated by MC article and others in the Classics press which is talking up the 205GTI which traditionally lagged behind Golf GTI prices.

I looked at a 205GTI for 1K last year, only issue was it was fitted with a roll cage which would require a lot of bodywork correction to return the mounting points to original. I'll confess that much as it was fun to drive it didn't have the grown up feel of the Golf which meant it would really need to be a plaything not a car you can use daily (I was looking for one as a potential local runabout before we bought the MINI).
Big Blue

Three of my friends had these new in '88 and '89, two 1.6 and one 1.9. They were fun to drive but I never saw the reason for the reputation for their elevation to out and out deity. They certainly felt tattier in a shorter time than the equivalent Golf GTi or, dare I say "even", XR3 or GTE.
Frank Bullitt

Big Blue wrote:
Three of my friends had these new in '88 and '89, two 1.6 and one 1.9. They were fun to drive but I never saw the reason for the reputation for their elevation to out and out deity. They certainly felt tattier in a shorter time than the equivalent Golf GTi or, dare I say "even", XR3 or GTE.


Ironic really, given that both the GTE or XR3(i) seem to survive in tiny numbers and even then only if cherished to within an inch of their life, yet plenty of 205's from the tattiest to the finest still exist. What they may have lacked in perceived quality they more than made up for with the real stuff.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

You could have a brand new Fiesta ST for less money......
gonnabuildabuggy

Frank Bullitt wrote:
Big Blue wrote:
Three of my friends had these new in '88 and '89, two 1.6 and one 1.9. They were fun to drive but I never saw the reason for the reputation for their elevation to out and out deity. They certainly felt tattier in a shorter time than the equivalent Golf GTi or, dare I say "even", XR3 or GTE.


Ironic really, given that both the GTE or XR3(i) seem to survive in tiny numbers and even then only if cherished to within an inch of their life, yet plenty of 205's from the tattiest to the finest still exist. What they may have lacked in perceived quality they more than made up for with the real stuff.


I think that's down to Peugeot's rust proofing at the time as there seem to be a fair number of 205 (all models) survivors around and I can't recall seeing many rusty ones.

I can't comment on the GTE but back in 1993 I ran an 88 Golf GTI, whilst my next door neighbour had an 87 XR3i (heady days!), the GTi had one rust spot which was sorted under the 6 yr warranty (blank wiper location, common spot) whilst his XR3i had a fair number of bad rot areas.
Blarno

Peugeot used to be a steel company. That's why their cars don't rust anywhere near as easily as the Ford or Vauxhall equivalent.

Having owned both a 1.9 GTi and a couple of Astra GTEs, the difference was night and day. The Astra was punchy, but a blunt instrument. No steering feel and understeer central at high speeds, but the 205 was a precision instrument and had a better ride.

The guy selling this is a dreamer. That's a 5k car, tops. Sadly, some beard will pay 22k for it and squirrel it away in an air conditioned garage and a proper old skool driver's car will never see a road again.
PG

Blarno wrote:
Having owned both a 1.9 GTi and a couple of Astra GTEs, the difference was night and day. The Astra was punchy, but a blunt instrument. No steering feel and understeer central at high speeds, but the 205 was a precision instrument and had a better ride.


Interesting comparison. I've been lucky enough to drive an Astra GTE (Mk 1 and Mk 2) and a 205 GTi (1.6 and 1.9). Of them all, I reckon the 1.9 205 GTi was the best all round car.
TreVoR

Having just read the articles on 80s hot hatches in Modern Classics, I rather like this.  I had a 1.4RT of the same age and I loved the way it drove.

http://www.fast-classics.com/cars/renault-clio-1-8-16v-for-sale/

They also have a R5 GT Turbo - somewhat more expensive and I think the Clio would be a better car.

http://www.fast-classics.com/cars/renault-5-gt-turbo-3-for-sale/

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