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franki68

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to cut a long story short..the dealer principal at my local OPC when I had the 997 turbo is now back at my local OPC,so I get a call asking if I want to try the 991 range (I drove a c2s at launch briefly) ,so I had a c2s for several hours over the weekend and will have a c4s for a day tomorrow.
I thought it would be interesting to see how they compare.

Anyway the c2s and please remember any comments are in relation to the DBS .

Genuinely the car felt sluggish ,it only had 400 miles on so it may be too tight ,but there is no torque ,its dull below 5000rpm and then bursts into life.
Dont get me wrong it is seriously fast ,but a major factor in that is the brilliant pdk.It feels slower than the dbs although its perfromance figures are not that far behind.
The steering ...weird as my first drive of a c2s I thought the steering was great but maybe a tad to light.THis steering had less feel but more weight
,it is incredibly accurate and combined with that tiny front end it really  allows you to attack a corner in a manner very few cars can.
It was a typical mancunian day so intense rain everywhere but the car was able to put its power down brilliantly ,only once did the traction control systems cut in .
The brakes...no one gets close to porsche brake wise ,unbelievable stopping power and that ability to stop where you want ,however a few times the ABS cut in .
The car feels like its made from granite ,its incredibly well built and the interior is lovely although identical to much cheaper models which to me is not acceptable on a 100k car.
The gearbox (PDK ) is stunning,if you have to have some auto this is the one to have.
The ride is ok ,but nowhere near the dbs in terms of refinement and comfort and it had the sports exhaust option,but when I turned it on I found it a bit 'drony' in the cabin.
IN a nutshell its a much better sportscar than the dbs but nowhere near as good a GT,its better round corners but not as good in a straight line.
Nice Guy Eddie

Are you trying the new turbo at some point?

The 991 outside of GT3/Tubo spec I can't get too excited about. I think I'd rather take a Cayman S that has had a few options thrown at it instead.
franki68

Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
Are you trying the new turbo at some point?

The 991 outside of GT3/Tubo spec I can't get too excited about. I think I'd rather take a Cayman S that has had a few options thrown at it instead.


the new turbo is 150k, its not special enough at that money (interior of boxster) ,its far too fast to use anywhere really ,and its more money than a used 458 or 12c ,a friend has one but it doesnt interest me in the slightest,n/a porsches are always the best .
Plus my record with turbos porsches is not exactly great
I agree about the cayman ,the dealer said many 911 customers had changed to it ,but I m looking at one for the wife ,they gave her one for the day and its fantastic ,a bit too slow after the aston ,but a truly fantastic car.
Martin

Sounds like you're having an interesting few days!

A Cayman S in the right spec appeals to me more than a base 911 as well, but a Boxster S appeals even more.

Interesting comment about the sports exhaust as I don't switch it on with the roof up (a very rare situation), as can be a little boomy, but more because it's nice to hear the engine, as you mainly hear exhaust with the roof down.  Roof down, I wouldn't be without it, first option I'd tick on a new car, even before decent size wheels!
franki68

C4s today,pdk with paddles .

Utterly brilliant,the paddles make the pdk a gearbox I would have ,the buttons on the steering wheel actually annoy me,paddles are right for up,left for down..the buttons on the steering wheel are front for up back for down.
Engine only has 140 miles on so its really really tight ,but the grip and stability of this thing is astonishing.
THe steering still has no feel,but the chassis gives you plenty of that ,what it does better than the c2s is the extra weight at the front stops the front bobbing so much and gives much greater stability .It was absolutely pissing down when I collected it but full throttle is no problem .
It doesnt ride any better unfortunately ,but the sheer cross country pace of this thing is staggering ,faster than my 997 turbo was..it just gives you so much confidence.
So an utterly brilliant sportscar ,I genuniely thought the r8 was a better sportscar than the 997 but the 991 has moved the game on .
If I was to buy one ,it would be the c4s ,but you couldnt really justify any 911 over a cayman at the moment ,the c4s would get my money just for its outrageous traction .

Does a 991 c4s fit in with what I want at the moment ? I would miss the comfort,looks and engine of the aston ,but I would have a more useable car ,which is more fun round the twisties.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

franki68 wrote:

I agree about the cayman ,the dealer said many 911 customers had changed to it ,but I m looking at one for the wife.....

Which Porsche centre is taking a wife in p/x for a Cayman?  Sounds like a good deal......

franki68

well I wanted a cayman but they only offered me a bike in part ex.

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