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Racing Teatray

Oh my...

Not even remotely within any kind of budget ever but OMG I want it:

http://www.bramley.com/carsales/details/BMW/M6-Gran-Coupe/11348.htm

I didn't know you could Racing-spec one of these, but apparently you can.
Martin

That looks fantastic!

Great spec too, but £105k....leave it a year and you might be able to pick it up for £65-70k.  Nowhere near as nice due to its 'frozen' paint, but there is a 12 month old / 7,000 miles Individual Spec M6 GC for £70,000 on Autotrader and they start from £60k at a year old.
Bob Sacamano

It does look good and it's nice to see a BMW in a colour other than boring white, black or grey. The green paint and tan interior is a classic combo. Still a couple of grand pricey for me.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

<obvious>Shame about the tints</obvious>
PhilD

Bob Sacamano wrote:
The green paint and tan interior is a classic combo.


Racing, do you have an App that finds these cars for you?  
PG

Green paint, tan leather -   And well done to whoever had the guts to spec that in such a way.

But really, price + privacy glass -  

Mind you, if you wanted to spend £105k on that car, I am sure that a few £ for new glass throughout would be a mere drop in the ocean or a good negotiation point.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Who'd spec up such a car to £130k then sell it after a couple of months ... and why?
Bob Sacamano

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Who'd spec up such a car to £130k then sell it after a couple of months ... and why?


VAT fraud.
Nice Guy Eddie

Bloody lovely that.

I struggle to see how Bramley can sell these for £100k+ when you could go into your friendly BMW dealer and spec the same car with a near 40k discount. (that's an assumption Martin)
Martin

I think the discount is close to £20k, so buying 6-12 months old is a much better bet, as that still makes it a £75k+ car before options.  My guess is that this particular car would have been about what Bramley are selling it for, as it's got a lot of very expensive options.
Humphrey The Pug

I would have thought, due to the very narrow market for that colour combo, the car would be one hell of a lot cheaper.

I like the fact that it is different though, there is a burnt orange one around here.
Racing Teatray

PhilD wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
The green paint and tan interior is a classic combo.


Racing, do you have an App that finds these cars for you?  


Carzforrahz...
Martin

I'll let you know if the Chris Harris Range Rover comes up for sale, that's proper Racing spec with wood trim rather than piano black to go with the Green/Tan and clear windows.
PhilD

The tan is nice, but together with the green this is the equivalent of building a shiny modern glass and steel building and then fitting it with net curtains.
Racing Teatray

That, my friend, is where you are entirely wrong.
JohnC

I think that looks great and I really like the tan leather.

As for discounts, a client has just bought a new 640D GC for a few £s over £50K. The discounts are there if you have the cash.
PG

PhilD wrote:
The tan is nice, but together with the green this is the equivalent of building a shiny modern glass and steel building and then fitting it with net curtains.


No, it's having that glass and steel building (very modern, very efficient) and having a lawn in front and filling the building with sumptuous proper furniture rather than a concrete yard and uncomfortable but very trendy furniture.  
Martin

JohnC wrote:
I think that looks great and I really like the tan leather.

As for discounts, a client has just bought a new 640D GC for a few £s over £50K. The discounts are there if you have the cash.


They were offering unregistered, in stock 640d GC M Sports for £48,500 when I was looking, the dealer in MK had 3 sitting out front to choose from.
PhilD

PG wrote:
PhilD wrote:
The tan is nice, but together with the green this is the equivalent of building a shiny modern glass and steel building and then fitting it with net curtains.


No, it's having that glass and steel building (very modern, very efficient) and having a lawn in front and filling the building with sumptuous proper furniture rather than a concrete yard and uncomfortable but very trendy furniture.  


a lawn in front? Don't you know that the lawn should, at the very least, be on top. And only if you can't make it go up the side...
JohnC

My client ordered one to be built with a few extras (he's not interested enough in cars to get him into much of a conversation about exactly what the spec is, other than it is blue metallic with light coloured leather), so it seems it isn't just stock cars.

I see that 4 mth old M4's are also hitting the market (presumably demos) at around the £50K mark.
Bryan M

That does look fantastic but the price is outrageous. I still think of north of £100k as proper exotic territory not secondhand BMWs!
Giant

PhilD wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
The green paint and tan interior is a classic combo.


Racing, do you have an App that finds these cars for you?  


Racing doesn't have an app, he has a suitably attired man!  

PhilD wrote:
The tan is nice, but together with the green this is the equivalent of building a shiny modern glass and steel building and then fitting it with net curtains.


Amen! Green and tan can look great, but absolutely doesn't in this instance! I saw a Cayenne today with the same colour scheme, it looked almost as wrong as the project chav ones I see!
Blarno

Tan leather is second only to chocolate leather in the Blarno Desirability stakes.

I still don't get the 6GC.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Blarno wrote:
I still don't get the 6GC.

It's a slightly less un-tasteful Merc CLS. I quite like it BTW but it's not my sort of car (cue jokes about lack of spare wheel...)
Blarno

I don't get the CLS either...
simonp

Outside is all good, but the interior reminds me of my kitchen after my dog ate something that really didn't agree with him!
Twelfth Monkey

Bryan M wrote:
I still think of north of £100k as proper exotic territory not secondhand BMWs!


Despite the general strength of the product range, I think my perception of BMW's 'glass ceiling' is that it's lower than Mercedes, and lower than Audi managed to push theirs with the V10 R8.  I don't get this car either.  Saw one on the road the other day and it looked better than I thought it would, but at £100k it's way out of its depth in desirability terms for me.
PhilD

How does the i8 fit into that 12th? h0w far could they push that part of the range? R8s are £120k now and i8s are £100k new but selling at £120k used.
Bob Sacamano

I'm not sure I'd put Audi up there with Mercedes and BMW - I'd always have them on a rung below with Lexus. The R8 is a slightly special case as it's basically a Lamborghini built by quattro.
PhilD

Bob Sacamano wrote:
I'm not sure I'd put Audi up there with Mercedes and BMW - I'd always have them on a rung below with Lexus. The R8 is a slightly special case as it's basically a Lamborghini built by quattro.


that's not what he said though, we are talking about the glass ceiling.
Twelfth Monkey

PhilD wrote:
How does the i8 fit into that 12th? h0w far could they push that part of the range? R8s are £120k now and i8s are £100k new but selling at £120k used.


Good point, and I don't know.  I guess it feels too 'new' to have influenced my personal perception - that may change.  In terms of halo cars, RS competes directly with M and AMG and on equal terms, if different merits and core strengths.  Lexus doesn't, despite the LF-A, a car whose engine note is up there with the greatest man-made sounds.  Maybe it's too far removed from core product.  A driver of a 3 or A4 can imagine an M3 or RS4 on the drive without too much difficulty.   I've passengered in a Gallardo and an R8.  They were far more different than I expected.
Racing Teatray

I never suggested I would be prepared to pay £100k for it, or that it might be worth £100k. I merely like the car itself!
PhilD

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
PhilD wrote:
How does the i8 fit into that 12th? h0w far could they push that part of the range? R8s are £120k now and i8s are £100k new but selling at £120k used.


Good point, and I don't know.  I guess it feels too 'new' to have influenced my personal perception - that may change.  In terms of halo cars, RS competes directly with M and AMG and on equal terms, if different merits and core strengths.  Lexus doesn't, despite the LF-A, a car whose engine note is up there with the greatest man-made sounds.  Maybe it's too far removed from core product.  A driver of a 3 or A4 can imagine an M3 or RS4 on the drive without too much difficulty.   I've passengered in a Gallardo and an R8.  They were far more different than I expected.


My order would be

Run of the mill

Lexus

BMW, Audi

Merc and Jag

Performance

Jag and Lexus F stuff

RS, M and AMG

Halo

Audi R8, Merc GT BMW i8

Merc SLS

Lexus LF-A out on it's own (pretty amazing that a Lexus can be so sought after)
cbeaks1

Racing Teatray wrote:
I never suggested I would be prepared to pay £100k for it, or that it might be worth £100k. I merely like the car itself!


Now on the Pistonheads Twitter feed. They like it too.
Racing Teatray

Interesting. I don't twitter myself so wouldn't have spotted this.
gonnabuildabuggy

No, but they read this forum  
Alf McQueef

Nice, but £30k in a few years - and, if its any good at all - still working just as well. Buy it then.
Roadsterstu

PG wrote:
Green paint, tan leather -   And well done to whoever had the guts to spec that in such a way.

But really, price + privacy glass -  

Mind you, if you wanted to spend £105k on that car, I am sure that a few £ for new glass throughout would be a mere drop in the ocean or a good negotiation point.


I'm going to find where you live and fit "tints" to your car one night.
Martin

A Racing spec FF, even nicer than the M6

https://twitter.com/harrismonkey/status/657224040483037184
Racing Teatray

Hmm. Not sure about the FF. A 456 or 550 in that colour combination on the other hand....
Racing Teatray

Cream leather rather than tan, but I'll forgive it:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classi...ferrari-456-gtamodificato/4764316
Roadrunner

I can see a nice SS tourer behind the fast FIAT  
Martin

The 456 is looking a bit ancient now.  I didn't like the FF, but having had a good look around a few recently, I'm a fan.  Not as much as the F12, but I could happily live with one!
Racing Teatray

The 456 just needs a change of wheels - they are what chiefly date it.
Frank Bullitt

The interior of the 6 is lovely but I'm with Phil, the green is just wrong; you can get away with green on cars with 'heritage' qualities, but not on a Beemer

It screams ' I am considerably richer than yow'
Martin

Racing Teatray wrote:
The 456 just needs a change of wheels - they are what chiefly date it.


I think you're right.
PhilD

Martin wrote:
Racing Teatray wrote:
The 456 just needs a change of wheels - they are what chiefly date it.


I think you're right.


I'm not so sure, the wheelbase is old skool short and there's too much weight around the rear.
Martin

The wheels are the biggest single issue, closely followed by the lack of LED headlights!  
Alf McQueef

In my mind I think I love 456's, but that looks underwhelming. The 308 and especially 328 still look lovely, but the once very sensible prices for those are long gone. A shame - I always had in mind a 328 as a classic when I was 60 or so. I don't think the current prices are worth even if I could afford it.
franki68

aside form the forthcoming m2,for me the only desirable m' car bmw now make

Not a fan of the green,but i do like tan or chocolate interiors.They are bad news come resale time though.

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