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Tim

Not many like us

I think it's safe to say that on here we're generally car enthusiasts and although it might be a relatively small forum we know we're not alone in the world.
However a couple of things have made me re-think that a bit.

Example 1:
My work has had a Renault Megane Coupe 265 Cup Renaultsport (I think I've missed part of it's name out there   ) for sale since last summer and to be honest it's become a bit of a forecourt queen. It's had approx. 1 interested party per month yet this is, according to the mags, one of the finest hot hatches money can buy. But nobody is really looking at it let alone snapping it up.

Example 2:
A 2007 Cayman (an enthusiast car I'd say) was taken as a trade-in taken earlier this week.
It's done 96k and according to the tech who looked it over sounded "a bit fucked". That's because it then needed 3 litres of oil to get to minimum on the dipstick.
They then discovered that the engine was replaced 7k miles ago but clearly the owner still wasn't taking care of it.  

Anyone else think/noticed the same?
PG

Re: Not many like us

Tim wrote:
Example 2:
A 2007 Cayman (an enthusiast car I'd say) was taken as a trade-in taken earlier this week.
It's done 96k and according to the tech who looked it over sounded "a bit fucked". That's because it then needed 3 litres of oil to get to minimum on the dipstick.
They then discovered that the engine was replaced 7k miles ago but clearly the owner still wasn't taking care of it.  

Anyone else think/noticed the same?


One company I used to work for the MD has a coupe of Porsches. A guards red 944 Turbo coupe, that I drove a few times (which I liked), followed by a black 944 Turbo convertible, which always struck me as a poseurs car.

When he left, I had to sell the 944 convertible. It had 40,000 miles on the clock, and I said to him that he obviously had not had the service book stamped as the last stamp was at 12000 miles. No, he had not had it serviced in 28000 miles.         What a dick-head.
TreVoR

The engine rebuild on the TVR was probably caused by skimping on such maintenance. I can't understand the mentality.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

TreVoR wrote:
The engine rebuild on the TVR was probably caused by skimping on such maintenance. I can't understand the mentality.

(sigh) I truly despair at the way that most people don't seem to take care of their cars, hence I am prepared to stump up for a loan and buy a new Captur rather than a used Golf, Focus or similar.
I took a chance with the Galaxy in 2003; I bought it used at just over 2 years old.  It was bought new privately.  At the time it cost about £25k, yet it wasn't given its first service until well over 12 months old, and was overdue for its second annual service when I bought it; it was promptly booked into the local Ford main dealership for that to be done, and I have had it serviced almost annually (irrespective of mileage) ever since - I say "almost annually" as it was registered in January 2001 but the first service I had done was in June 2003, and I gradually eased it back to the point where the service and MoT were due at the same time.

In Nov 2004 my parents bought their current car, around £27k-worth of new V70.  Because they only do a couple of thousand miles per year, my dad also skips servicing. I think the car has gone as long as 3 years between services, although I do try to mention to him that it should be given an oil change at least annually even if he doesn't want to spend any more on running costs.

I've worked with people who've had company cars and who almost boast that they never open the bonnet, they just book the car into a garage for a service at the appointed time/mileage.
Roadrunner

One thing I made sure of when I was looking for the Benz was that I found a car which had been properly looked after. The one I bought had been the previous owner's pride and joy, to the extent that he was reallly reluctant to see it go. It had been pampered all its life.

Others I looked at had mismatched tyres and the so-called FSH had lengthy gaps.
TreVoR

Roadrunner wrote:
One thing I made sure of when I was looking for the Benz was that I found a car which had been properly looked after. The one I bought had been the previous owner's pride and joy, to the extent that he was reallly reluctant to see it go. It had been pampered all its life.

Others I looked at had mismatched tyres and the so-called FSH had lengthy gaps.


My Benz had full MB main dealer history at the required intervals and a full set of brand new Michelin MO marked tyres which persuaded me it had been looked after.
simonp

I wouldn't mind a 265. Not going to Scotland for one, though!
Boxer6

simonp wrote:
I wouldn't mind a 265. Not going to Scotland for one, though!


I could bring it down for you in July!!  
simonp

Where you going in July then?
Boxer6

simonp wrote:
Where you going in July then?


MK bowl to see Pearl Jam for the second time in 3 weeks. DO keep up, here's a good chap!  
Humphrey The Pug

Re: Not many like us

Tim wrote:
Example 1:
My work has had a Renault Megane Coupe 265 Cup Renaultsport (I think I've missed part of it's name out there   ) for sale since last summer and to be honest it's become a bit of a forecourt queen. It's had approx. 1 interested party per month yet this is, according to the mags, one of the finest hot hatches money can buy. But nobody is really looking at it let alone snapping it up.


Renaultsport cars are a bit of an odd one, in my experience; which is pretty good when it comes to the brand as I have had direct contact with it, on the sales side for around 14 years, attracts nothing but pricks who just want a go and have no intention of buying one.

When our previous sales manager left, about 4 years ago, we decided not to run Renaultsport anymore; we only had a 250 as that is what he wanted to have as his demo anyway, we never had an issue selling his 250's however we never sold a single new car from it, we would get the test pilots and dreamers however no one serious.

Now we don't have any Renaultsports on our fleet and I must have had only 2 or three enquiries on one in the last four years or so and you got the distinct impression they weren't serious anyway or were just curious, particularly with the 200 turbo.

I'm glad we don't run them as they were always a grief product that you got little or no return on, for us anyway.

Try and find a dealer that does run Renaultsport, they are few and far between and generally it is only the Renault Retail Group that has them.
Frank Bullitt

In my years of buying used cars, the one thing that continually astounds me is the definition of 'full service history' which to me means 'serviced on time and mileage to manufacturers standards' but to many seems to mean 'if somebody could be arsed to have it serviced at some point the book got a stamp', I'm amazed how many people forget to get a service done on their car - especially if the mileage is such that it only needs doing annually.
Giant

Depends on your definition I suppose, having the book stamped and all receipts kept does provide a full history of the servicing, regardless of when those services were done. Maybe another phrase is needed for service intervals being meticulously met.
simonp

Boxer6 wrote:
simonp wrote:
Where you going in July then?


MK bowl to see Pearl Jam for the second time in 3 weeks. DO keep up, here's a good chap!  


Did I win the second ticket then? I have recollections of you asking a colleague of yours first or possibly not going at all...
Big Blue

The E46 suggested it was over 3k miles overdue. Which means the previous gimp never serviced it from the MoT records. When I traded Jean-Luc and handed over a file of all invoices for three years of ownership the dealer nearly fainted.
simonp

Re: Not many like us

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Tim wrote:
Example 1:
My work has had a Renault Megane Coupe 265 Cup Renaultsport (I think I've missed part of it's name out there   ) for sale since last summer and to be honest it's become a bit of a forecourt queen. It's had approx. 1 interested party per month yet this is, according to the mags, one of the finest hot hatches money can buy. But nobody is really looking at it let alone snapping it up.


Renaultsport cars are a bit of an odd one, in my experience; which is pretty good when it comes to the brand as I have had direct contact with it, on the sales side for around 14 years, attracts nothing but pricks who just want a go and have no intention of buying one.

When our previous sales manager left, about 4 years ago, we decided not to run Renaultsport anymore; we only had a 250 as that is what he wanted to have as his demo anyway, we never had an issue selling his 250's however we never sold a single new car from it, we would get the test pilots and dreamers however no one serious.

Now we don't have any Renaultsports on our fleet and I must have had only 2 or three enquiries on one in the last four years or so and you got the distinct impression they weren't serious anyway or were just curious, particularly with the 200 turbo.

I'm glad we don't run them as they were always a grief product that you got little or no return on, for us anyway.

Try and find a dealer that does run Renaultsport, they are few and far between and generally it is only the Renault Retail Group that has them.


Guilty, your honour. I test drove one when they were first released, but balked at the price of nearly £29,000. I remember not liking the brakes much, which was odd, as they were much the same ones as on the Clio. Very snatchy on the Megane, but the Clio's were lovely and progressive.
Boxer6

simonp wrote:
Boxer6 wrote:
simonp wrote:
Where you going in July then?


MK bowl to see Pearl Jam for the second time in 3 weeks. DO keep up, here's a good chap!  


Did I win the second ticket then? I have recollections of you asking a colleague of yours first or possibly not going at all...


My apologies …… yes, you did! (Thought I'd said, but obviously not)

Not actually got them yet mind ……..
Tim

What are the chances - the Megane sold at the weekend  

I'll have to list our old stock on here to see if it works twice.

Anyone want a 52 plate Carrera 4 cabrio, complete with hardtop?  
Mark

Re: Not many like us

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Tim wrote:
Example 1:
My work has had a Renault Megane Coupe 265 Cup Renaultsport (I think I've missed part of it's name out there   ) for sale since last summer and to be honest it's become a bit of a forecourt queen. It's had approx. 1 interested party per month yet this is, according to the mags, one of the finest hot hatches money can buy. But nobody is really looking at it let alone snapping it up.


Renaultsport cars are a bit of an odd one, in my experience; which is pretty good when it comes to the brand as I have had direct contact with it, on the sales side for around 14 years, attracts nothing but pricks who just want a go and have no intention of buying one.

When our previous sales manager left, about 4 years ago, we decided not to run Renaultsport anymore; we only had a 250 as that is what he wanted to have as his demo anyway, we never had an issue selling his 250's however we never sold a single new car from it, we would get the test pilots and dreamers however no one serious.

Now we don't have any Renaultsports on our fleet and I must have had only 2 or three enquiries on one in the last four years or so and you got the distinct impression they weren't serious anyway or were just curious, particularly with the 200 turbo.

I'm glad we don't run them as they were always a grief product that you got little or no return on, for us anyway.

Try and find a dealer that does run Renaultsport, they are few and far between and generally it is only the Renault Retail Group that has them.


A mate had a Megane 225 Renaultsport which he bought at 6 months old. He kept it for around a year but it started falling to bits, so chopped it in for a Scirocco. The dealer was still trying to shift the 225 on their forecourt at way, way below what they paid my mate as the P/X 8 months later.
simonp

Boxer6 wrote:
My apologies …… yes, you did! (Thought I'd said, but obviously not)

Not actually got them yet mind ……..


Lovely jubbly! Haven't seen them since 1996 IIRC. Let me know where, when and how much and I'll see you there.  

Racing Teatray

Big Blue wrote:
The E46 suggested it was over 3k miles overdue. Which means the previous gimp never serviced it from the MoT records. When I traded Jean-Luc and handed over a file of all invoices for three years of ownership the dealer nearly fainted.




When I sold the Z1, I think the buyer was equally surprised by (and pleased with) the history file. It didn't have a fully stamped service book by any stretch of the imagination (neither the previous owner nor I ever got the servicers to stamp it), but nevertheless all the old service receipts, MoTs and tax discs are there back to when it was imported in 1999 verifying that it had only done 12,500 miles in 14.5 years, plus there was a fair amount of BMW service paperwork from its previous life in Belgium in the 1990s. Enough to fill a box file.
Tim

Racing Teatray wrote:
Enough to fill a box file.


After 10 years and 2 weeks of Fiat Coupe ownership I've almost got as much paperwork.
I've kept every receipt even down to stuff like getting new wiper blades.
Martin

Tim wrote:
Racing Teatray wrote:
Enough to fill a box file.


After 10 years and 2 weeks of Fiat Coupe ownership I've almost got as much paperwork.
I've kept every receipt even down to stuff like getting new wiper blades.


Same here with the Sprite, but over 20 years worth of documentation.  I'd blanked out the amount if cost to have the engine rebuilt just after I bought it and was horrified to see the bill....£1,300.  That was before I had the bodywork fully restored followed by replacing the suspension, brakes, seats etc etc.
Frank Bullitt

The A2 has an impressive file - it overfills the pouch Audi provided with the car - luckily (touch wood) apart from servicing and consumables there haven't been too many other invoices which is impressive considering it clicked over 99.400 miles this morning.
gonnabuildabuggy

Tim wrote:
Racing Teatray wrote:
Enough to fill a box file.


After 10 years and 2 weeks of Fiat Coupe ownership I've almost got as much paperwork.
I've kept every receipt even down to stuff like getting new wiper blades.


Same. I make it a point of the sales process to run through the paperwork with the interested party. I tend to put them in lever arch files nowadays.

My MX5 also came with a big pile of invoices, as did the Merc - a sign of a caring and fastidious keeper. The E36, E30, Dolomite and Mondeo were the same thinking about it. Even the Golf GTI had a fair amount of paperwork with it.
Martin

The file is a bit thin in the 520d....  Just a service book and some tyre paperwork, as that's all that's been needed!
gonnabuildabuggy

Martin wrote:
The file is a bit thin in the 520d....  Just a service book and some tyre paperwork, as that's all that's been needed!


No windscreen wipers, odd bulbs? Now that is a reliable car.  
Martin

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Martin wrote:
The file is a bit thin in the 520d....  Just a service book and some tyre paperwork, as that's all that's been needed!


No windscreen wipers, odd bulbs? Now that is a reliable car.  


I buy the wiper blades from Halfrauds, so all I have is a receipt which I send off with my expense form!  I replaced the headlight bulbs at my own cost, as the standard ones just aren't bright enough.  

You're right though, it is very reliable.  Must be deserving of some sort of forum award!  
Big Blue

No Xenons? Die Schreibmaschine has Xenons.
Martin

Big Blue wrote:
No Xenons? Die Schreibmaschine has Xenons.


Nope.  Mind you, not even a £50k 550i M Sport would have had xenons as standard in E60 land.

In hindsight it was a mistake not specifying them, but I spent up my allowance on fancy widescreen satnav and bamboo trim!  

Hopefully my next car will have them and it was a non negotiable option on the Boxster.
tali

Xenon headlights + auto headlight adjust £800 option.
gooner

Big Blue wrote:
The E46 suggested it was over 3k miles overdue. Which means the previous gimp never serviced it from the MoT records. When I traded Jean-Luc and handed over a file of all invoices for three years of ownership the dealer nearly fainted.


Explains why he's gone out of business then!
Martin

tali wrote:
Xenon headlights + auto headlight adjust £800 option.


It was a £785 option to be exact!  

The Nightbreaker bulbs are excellent, not as good as Xenons, but close considering the huge cost difference.
Big Blue

Gooner wrote:
Big Blue wrote:
The E46 suggested it was over 3k miles overdue. Which means the previous gimp never serviced it from the MoT records. When I traded Jean-Luc and handed over a file of all invoices for three years of ownership the dealer nearly fainted.


Explains why he's gone out of business then!


Net company value of -£45k probably also explains that.
gooner

Martin wrote:
tali wrote:
Xenon headlights + auto headlight adjust £800 option.


It was a £785 option to be exact!  

The Nightbreaker bulbs are excellent, not as good as Xenons, but close considering the huge cost difference.


Might give them a go,  the standard bulbs on the Insignia are rubbish. It seems the way thatcars where the mmanufacturer hopes or expects most models to be specced with xenons, the halogens are poor. The standard lighting on the Focus and Megane I had before were a lot better.
simonp

The bulb that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Martin

simonp wrote:
The bulb that burns twice as bright burns half as long.


Mine have been in for over 18 months. If they lasted 6 months it would still be well worth doing.
Big Blue

simonp wrote:
The bulb that burns twice as bright burns half as long.


Is that a quote from The Watchtower?
simonp

No, it's due to the fact that I've taken still working bulbs out of 5 year old cars, installed allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones and then had to put the old ones back in 2 years later when the allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones both go pop within a week of each other.

They're not any brighter either!
PG

simonp wrote:
No, it's due to the fact that I've taken still working bulbs out of 5 year old cars, installed allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones and then had to put the old ones back in 2 years later when the allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones both go pop within a week of each other.

They're not any brighter either!


I've swapped my bulbs to Ring Ultima +120%'s (  http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7-ring-x...20-halogen-headlamp-55w-pair.html  ) and they are excellent. You can see that they are brighter then the standard bulbs. And if they fail every 6 months, so be it.
Frank Bullitt

simonp wrote:
No, it's due to the fact that I've taken still working bulbs out of 5 year old cars, installed allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones and then had to put the old ones back in 2 years later when the allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones both go pop within a week of each other.

They're not any brighter either!


I use Osram Nightbreakers in both our cars and they are fantastic - the Picasso has decent stock headlights anyway but they are still better, the A2's lights are pish without them but exceptional with - yes I replace them every 12 months but that's OK, it's no hardship.
Boxer6

Frank Bullitt wrote:
simonp wrote:
No, it's due to the fact that I've taken still working bulbs out of 5 year old cars, installed allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones and then had to put the old ones back in 2 years later when the allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones both go pop within a week of each other.

They're not any brighter either!


I use Osram Nightbreakers in both our cars and they are fantastic - the Picasso has decent stock headlights anyway but they are still better, the A2's lights are pish without them but exceptional with - yes I replace them every 12 months but that's OK, it's no hardship.


Having now 99% decided I'm keeping the GTI, I will need to explore this myself, as the stock headlights (glass particularly, at nearly 9 years old) are piss-poor. I've considered swapping the whole unit, but have yet to check the Bay of E for such things. Tonight, maybe ....


ETA: Managed a quick look just now, saw these OEM-style for what seems to be the most common price, and these which I really fancy, but are considerably dearer and might not suit the car? Good job we can't access Paypal via work computers any longer, as the latter would already have been bought (probably).
Racing Teatray

I bought some Halfrauds Ultra-brilliance dipped beam bulbs (they were on offer) for the 500 the other day after realising it had typical Italian "waving a candle around" headlamp wattage. Will try to fit them this w/end if I get time.
simonp

Boxer6 wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
simonp wrote:
No, it's due to the fact that I've taken still working bulbs out of 5 year old cars, installed allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones and then had to put the old ones back in 2 years later when the allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones both go pop within a week of each other.

They're not any brighter either!


I use Osram Nightbreakers in both our cars and they are fantastic - the Picasso has decent stock headlights anyway but they are still better, the A2's lights are pish without them but exceptional with - yes I replace them every 12 months but that's OK, it's no hardship.


Having now 99% decided I'm keeping the GTI, I will need to explore this myself, as the stock headlights (glass particularly, at nearly 9 years old) are piss-poor. I've considered swapping the whole unit, but have yet to check the Bay of E for such things. Tonight, maybe ....


ETA: Managed a quick look just now, saw these OEM-style for what seems to be the most common price, and these which I really fancy, but are considerably dearer and might not suit the car? Good job we can't access Paypal via work computers any longer, as the latter would already have been bought (probably).


Prefer these, but they're more money:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Project...-Golf-MK5-Jetta-MK3-/251363273297

3M do a headlight refurbishment kit that is supposed to bring them back to new looking. Could be a cheaper option. I've also read you can polish them with toothpaste!
Boxer6

simonp wrote:
Boxer6 wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
simonp wrote:
No, it's due to the fact that I've taken still working bulbs out of 5 year old cars, installed allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones and then had to put the old ones back in 2 years later when the allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones both go pop within a week of each other.

They're not any brighter either!


I use Osram Nightbreakers in both our cars and they are fantastic - the Picasso has decent stock headlights anyway but they are still better, the A2's lights are pish without them but exceptional with - yes I replace them every 12 months but that's OK, it's no hardship.


Having now 99% decided I'm keeping the GTI, I will need to explore this myself, as the stock headlights (glass particularly, at nearly 9 years old) are piss-poor. I've considered swapping the whole unit, but have yet to check the Bay of E for such things. Tonight, maybe ....


ETA: Managed a quick look just now, saw these OEM-style for what seems to be the most common price, and these which I really fancy, but are considerably dearer and might not suit the car? Good job we can't access Paypal via work computers any longer, as the latter would already have been bought (probably).


Prefer these, but they're more money:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Project...-Golf-MK5-Jetta-MK3-/251363273297

3M do a headlight refurbishment kit that is supposed to bring them back to new looking. Could be a cheaper option. I've also read you can polish them with toothpaste!


I knew I'd read something like that somewhere - couldn't remember what the substance was!
Chocy Rocky

Boxer6 wrote:
simonp wrote:
Boxer6 wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
simonp wrote:
No, it's due to the fact that I've taken still working bulbs out of 5 year old cars, installed allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones and then had to put the old ones back in 2 years later when the allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones both go pop within a week of each other.

They're not any brighter either!


I use Osram Nightbreakers in both our cars and they are fantastic - the Picasso has decent stock headlights anyway but they are still better, the A2's lights are pish without them but exceptional with - yes I replace them every 12 months but that's OK, it's no hardship.


Having now 99% decided I'm keeping the GTI, I will need to explore this myself, as the stock headlights (glass particularly, at nearly 9 years old) are piss-poor. I've considered swapping the whole unit, but have yet to check the Bay of E for such things. Tonight, maybe ....


ETA: Managed a quick look just now, saw these OEM-style for what seems to be the most common price, and these which I really fancy, but are considerably dearer and might not suit the car? Good job we can't access Paypal via work computers any longer, as the latter would already have been bought (probably).


Prefer these, but they're more money:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Project...-Golf-MK5-Jetta-MK3-/251363273297

3M do a headlight refurbishment kit that is supposed to bring them back to new looking. Could be a cheaper option. I've also read you can polish them with toothpaste!


I knew I'd read something like that somewhere - couldn't remember what the substance was!


It's summertime, I'd worry about in the autumn.

Although I did fit a pair of Philips X-treme vision to the Leon years ago which made a huge difference to the light generated. I fitted a pair to the Golf with similar results, could be a cheap option.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PHILIPS...rParts_SM&hash=item3a8b29725a
Boxer6

Chocy Rocky wrote:
Boxer6 wrote:
simonp wrote:
Boxer6 wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
simonp wrote:
No, it's due to the fact that I've taken still working bulbs out of 5 year old cars, installed allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones and then had to put the old ones back in 2 years later when the allegedly 50% brighter aftermarket ones both go pop within a week of each other.

They're not any brighter either!


I use Osram Nightbreakers in both our cars and they are fantastic - the Picasso has decent stock headlights anyway but they are still better, the A2's lights are pish without them but exceptional with - yes I replace them every 12 months but that's OK, it's no hardship.


Having now 99% decided I'm keeping the GTI, I will need to explore this myself, as the stock headlights (glass particularly, at nearly 9 years old) are piss-poor. I've considered swapping the whole unit, but have yet to check the Bay of E for such things. Tonight, maybe ....


ETA: Managed a quick look just now, saw these OEM-style for what seems to be the most common price, and these which I really fancy, but are considerably dearer and might not suit the car? Good job we can't access Paypal via work computers any longer, as the latter would already have been bought (probably).


Prefer these, but they're more money:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Project...-Golf-MK5-Jetta-MK3-/251363273297

3M do a headlight refurbishment kit that is supposed to bring them back to new looking. Could be a cheaper option. I've also read you can polish them with toothpaste!


I knew I'd read something like that somewhere - couldn't remember what the substance was!


It's summertime, I'd worry about in the autumn.

Although I did fit a pair of Philips X-treme vision to the Leon years ago which made a huge difference to the light generated. I fitted a pair to the Golf with similar results, could be a cheap option.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PHILIPS...rParts_SM&hash=item3a8b29725a


Cheers for that Brian. £20 bulbs & toothpaste - got to be worth a try, hasn't it?  
Chocy Rocky

When we had our old Mk5 Golf, Mrs CR had a different way of getting better headlamps....she pumped it into the back of a BMW destroying the cloudy lenses, would of been handy if she hadn't taken the bonnet, wing, front bumper, front panel etc with them!

I could of bought a lot of toothpaste with that repair bill.
simonp

http://www.3mdirect.co.uk/3m-headlight-restoration-kit-39073.html

Or a whole bunch of ehows...

http://www.ehow.com/how_5636980_clean-headlights-brasso.html
Boxer6

simonp wrote:
Boxer6 wrote:
My apologies …… yes, you did! (Thought I'd said, but obviously not)

Not actually got them yet mind ……..


Lovely jubbly! Haven't seen them since 1996 IIRC. Let me know where, when and how much and I'll see you there.  



Got the email tonight telling me the tickets are ready to print! Will do it tomorrow night, and PM you the details.
Giant

Boxer6 wrote:
ETA: Managed a quick look just now, saw these OEM-style for what seems to be the most common price, and these which I really fancy, but are considerably dearer and might not suit the car? Good job we can't access Paypal via work computers any longer, as the latter would already have been bought (probably).


I'm sorry but they're both awful, non OEM headlights rarely look anything other than barried. Also, Blarno will be along in a minute with some abuse about Fucking Dubbers.  
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Racing Teatray wrote:
I bought some Halfrauds Ultra-brilliance dipped beam bulbs (they were on offer) for the 500 the other day after realising it had typical Italian "waving a candle around" headlamp wattage. Will try to fit them this w/end if I get time.

And you can keep the old ones to show to the French police if you ever take it there
Big Blue

Giant wrote:


........ non OEM headlights rarely look anything other than barried.


I have to agree. Die Schreibmaschine is based on a face-lift E39 so has the "angel eyes" side lights and LED rear cluster. A commuter parks their pre-face-lift E39 near us and it has aftermarket "angel eyes" which look more like goggly-speccy-twat-eyes; another chancer has an E36 with aftermarket LED rear lights and MY GOD! They are vile.

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