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Bob Sacamano

Nissan Qashqai 1.2 Dig-T

Recently I was offered a new job, which I accepted. Exciting engineering projects, more money, closer to home, what's not to like? Well there is a downside in as much as I'll lose the BMW Touring and will be taking on a year old A4 that still has 2 years to run on the lease (turns and spits.. ).

Anyway, this left us with a problem regarding our dog who gets transported everywhere in the back of my car, pretty much on a daily basis (loves it - he's a BMW snob). Mrs. Sacamano's 500C only has a small boot and I've tried transporting him around on the back seat of a car before and it's a pain - you have to plug his harness into the seatbelt and then he sits in the back making me look like I'm his driver. The only option seems to be to change her 500 for something more dog friendly and while we're at it look for something with a bit higher driving position.

We decided to have look round at some options in the soft roader category with the main priorities being 1) Petrol - she doesn't do the miles to warrant diesel. 2) 2WD - no point in lugging round a 4WD drivetrain 3) Needs to fit 2 sets of golf clubs in plus trollies (incredibly sad, I know).

Once we had these priorities the options narrowed down considerably. Peugeots 2008 & 3008 were dismissed (too ugly). Kia Sportage, nope, Mazda CX5 and Mitsubishi - not feeling it etc etc. the choice has really come down to the Ford Kuga or the Nissan Qashqai. Arnold Clark Ford were largely disinterested, not wanting to take cabrio in during winter, but Benfield Nissan were brilliant, couldn't be more helpful. They lent us a 1.2 Dig-T for 24 hours, with fuel and we used it for our normal routine and it coped brilliantly. I was very dubious about a 1.2L engine in such a large vehicle but it pulled so well and was so smooth I was pretty gobsmacked. It looks good, is of decent quality throughout, with loads of thoughtful touches, and was really nice to drive, very car-like in its handling, minimal roll though bends. Mrs. Sacamano loved it is really smitten by it. The salesman's come back with some promising figures so I think it's a goer.

In white (kill me now!)
Frank Bullitt

If you worked where I think you worked, very wise to be looking for alternative employment at the moment so congratulations on that.

I'm sure the 1.2 engine (same as in Chris M's Captur) is more than up to hauling the Kumquat around, the torque will hide the bulk reasonably well and unless you are caning it the economy is probably quite decent too.

At least the A4 is only a year old so it will be much better than earlier ones - they did a dacelift and engineering upgrade about 18 months ago and my last experience of an S-Line spec car was substantially more positive than the previous versions is driven, the dynamics whilst not perfect were much better.

Was the BMW a company car or a car allowance jobbie that you don't get in your new role?
Martin

Congratulations on the new Job...commiserations on the A4!

I really like the new Qashqai and it sounds like it's perfect for what you need, with decent dealer service as an added bonus.  Was white your choice, or is it a really good deal on an in stock car?
JohnC

Re: Nissan Qashqai 1.2 Dig-T

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Needs to fit 2 sets of golf clubs in plus trollies (incredibly sad, I know).



Completely understandable. One of the best de-stress activities I know.
Giant

My colleague tookdelivery of his new qashqai diesel today, it's a top spec (accenta? teckna?). It's the current favourite choice from our car list due to the high fg and low tax. It's very nice, if a little dull.  the massive glass roof is great and really lifts the cabin which otherwise would be a bit of a coal hole.
It would be the perfect family wagon but I hope I choose something a little more interesting when my turn comes.

Actually I'm not sure it would be a great family car, the height between rear seat and rear Windows is really high, I sat in the back on a quick ride round the block and felt quite enclosed.
Giant

Also, I've seen a few white ones, I'm not sure there is any car white suits less well (IMO)!
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Frank Bullitt wrote:

I'm sure the 1.2 engine (same as in Chris M's Captur) .....

The last time I looked under the bonnet (4 days ago) the 1.5 dCi engine was still there.....
Bob Sacamano

Frank Bullitt wrote:
If you worked where I think you worked, very wise to be looking for alternative employment at the moment so congratulations on that.

I'm sure the 1.2 engine (same as in Chris M's Captur) is more than up to hauling the Kumquat around, the torque will hide the bulk reasonably well and unless you are caning it the economy is probably quite decent too.

At least the A4 is only a year old so it will be much better than earlier ones - they did a dacelift and engineering upgrade about 18 months ago and my last experience of an S-Line spec car was substantially more positive than the previous versions is driven, the dynamics whilst not perfect were much better.

Was the BMW a company car or a car allowance jobbie that you don't get in your new role?


I don't think I work where you think I work - certainly there was no pressing reason to leave, we're on target to double turnover, have taken an extra 40 staff, and just opened our first facility near Sao Paulo. But it was time for a change, new challenge etc.

I don't really have a problem with the Audi, I've had one before. I'm not sure what model it is as I haven't thought to ask.

The BMW is a company car, as the A4. Hopefully it'll be the 2.0L diesel for lowish BIK.
Bob Sacamano

Giant wrote:
Also, I've seen a few white ones, I'm not sure there is any car white suits less well (IMO)!


One thing she has her heart set on is a white car so I'm not going to argue. I read somewhere that a quarter of Qashqais are white so it seems popular enough. We tested a white Tekna (top of the range) and I think white suits the new model better than the old one but it is a £725 extra cost (fuck me! ).

I'd have loved the panoramic glass roof but it isn't available on the Accenta, which is one up from the basic Visia model. I sat in the back and tried it out and it seemed pretty roomy, but we rarely carry anything back there other than a small mother in law.

As I said earlier the quality of the interior plastics is very good and there's a surprising amount of technology - the Tekna we tried would self park, both parallel and into supermarket bays, but I can just about manage that myself. We'll talk it over tonight and decide tomorrow.
Roadsterstu

Congrats on the job! I think you will miss the BMW but at least Mrs S gets a new car out of your new job!!
Giant

I hope I didn't sound overly negative in earlier posts, my thoughts were more about how one suit me. It's clearly a very good car, and great value too.

I stand by my opinion of the white paint though!
Chris M Wanted a V-10

White with black plastic cladding looks smart enough to me, it could be a bit of a pain to keep clean though !

I wouldn't have one due to lack of a spare wheel, even as an op[tion although apparently you can get an independent kit of wheel-tyre, jack etc for a couple of hundred quid.  Decent enough to look at, haven't driven one yet though, and the boot is significantly larger than the Captur's
Humphrey The Pug

The 1.2T engine is a Renault unit, I've only driven it in 115 guise, it is a very smooth and flexible power train.

Apart from the 115 and 120 EDC in the Clio GT I've not driven any other 1.2T's, and they weren't for any great length of time anyway.
PG

Congrats on the new job!

The new Qashquai looks very smart and they seem to have really improved the interior, which was always a bit lower rent in the old one. I drove an old shape one last year and could see why it is so popular though.  

I've seen loads in white and it looks OK. And a happy Mrs Sacamono is far more important than car colour  
Bob Sacamano

Giant wrote:
I hope I didn't sound overly negative in earlier posts, my thoughts were more about how one suit me. It's clearly a very good car, and great value too.

I stand by my opinion of the white paint though!


Not at all! A Qashqai was never on my radar until the last couple of weeks, but it's surprised me. The colour is what it is, not my first choice but not my last either.
Humphrey The Pug

PG wrote:
Congrats on the new job!

The new Qashquai looks very smart and they seem to have really improved the interior, which was always a bit lower rent in the old one. I drove an old shape one last year and could see why it is so popular though.  

I've seen loads in white and it looks OK. And a happy Mrs Sacamono is far more important than car colour  


The new one is a lovely looking car, the first generation; whilst I could sort of understand its popularity; myself, I never really "got" it and I too found the interior low rent and absolutely nothing special, with its generic switch gear, average plastics and dark and gloomy look, I think Nissan just got very lucky with their timing for such a car, as they did with the Juke too and everyone is now playing catch up and copying the concept.

It's ironic that when Renault jumped in to save Nissan; who were on their knees, Nissan had a major turn of fortune just as Renault were starting to decline massively, fortunately Renault have turned that corner and are outperforming most others in terms of growth.
Humphrey The Pug

PG wrote:
Congrats on the new job!

The new Qashquai looks very smart and they seem to have really improved the interior, which was always a bit lower rent in the old one. I drove an old shape one last year and could see why it is so popular though.  

I've seen loads in white and it looks OK. And a happy Mrs Sacamono is far more important than car colour  


The new one is a lovely looking car, the first generation; whilst I could sort of understand its popularity; myself, I never really "got" it and I too found the interior low rent and absolutely nothing special, with its generic switch gear, average plastics and dark and gloomy look, I think Nissan just got very lucky with their timing for such a car, as they did with the Juke too and everyone is now playing catch up and copying the concept.

It's ironic that when Renault jumped in to save Nissan; who were on their knees, Nissan had a major turn of fortune just as Renault were starting to decline massively, fortunately Renault have turned that corner and are outperforming most others in terms of growth.
Giant

Getting repeatedly lucky probably isn't luck! Its similar to Renault with MPVs in the 90s, coming up with concepts that every other manufacturer had to copy to keep up. Unfortunately Renault lost their momentum once everyone caught up.
Twelfth Monkey

£725 for a fashionable colour?  Fuck me, that's taking the piss.  But then if people are willing to pay to go with the herd, more fool them.

New job sounds a good move, Bob!
Big Blue

Congrats on the job, Bob.

On the Qashqai: I had one 2 summers ago in white as a rental, pretty nicely specced too. My report says it all. Great car.

http://themotor.myfastforum.org/about19733.html
Bob Sacamano

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
£725 for a fashionable colour?  Fuck me, that's taking the piss.  But then if people are willing to pay to go with the herd, more fool them.

New job sounds a good move, Bob!


There seems to be a move by all manufacturers to only have one colour that they don't charge extra for. I think with Nissan it's the red, the FIAT 500 I think it is the white. It's a crafty way of having a lower headline model price but then being able to make a nice tidy profit if people don't want the stock colour. I'd normally be irritated by this but they seem to have given us a discount apporaching £3.5k so I'll bend over and smile on this occasion.
Twelfth Monkey

Nope, makes perfect sense under those circumstances.  I didn't think non-standard paint cost more than £500 even from the Germanians, so that seems eye-watering.  But then it's nearly eight years since I bought a new car, so I suspect I'm out of date.
PhilD

Looks great in red I think

Twelfth Monkey

I like that colour too.  Lack of extra cost might explain why so many that I see are that colour.
Bob Sacamano

PhilD wrote:
Looks great in red I think



It does but I have a feeling she's going to stick to her guns and get washing machine white (what does she care - she'll get me to wash it).
Big Blue

They do look good in white, too.

Bob Sacamano

Is it a fridge? Is it a chest freezer?...
Twelfth Monkey

The red looks infinitely better to my eyes.
Michael

Bob Sacamano wrote:

There seems to be a move by all manufacturers to only have one colour that they don't charge extra for. I think with Nissan it's the red, the FIAT 500 I think it is the white.


So people with a hearing aid brown coloured 500 have actually paid extra for that? Good god.

Congratulations on the job.
Bob Sacamano

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
The red looks infinitely better to my eyes.


I tend to agree. I believe that's the Magnetic Red, which is a £550 option. The solid red is called Flame Red and that's the only "free" one. The white is a pearlescent one called Storm White - which makes me feel better as I can live with that better than Hotpoint White.
Big Blue

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Is it a fridge? Is it a chest freezer?...


To be fair, the QashQai is bought by loads of car-as-white-goods buyers.
Martin

It does look a higher quality product in that shade of red and the black plastic stands out too much for me on the white one.  However, if that's what Mrs S wants, that's what she should have!

Charging to metallic on smaller cars makes sense, as (had been said) it keeps the headline prices down and helps margins, but it winds me up when you spend a lot of money and have to pay extra.  For example, spend £60k with Audi (A6, RS4 etc) and they still ask for another £650 for metallic paint, otherwise you're stuck with flat black and white.  I'm pretty sure they want even more that when you spend nearly £100k on an R8...  Porsche as just as bad.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

There's a long-term report in Autocar of a week or two back with their white example appearing in several photos. It also has the dark glass roof, so you almost get a 2-tone effect.  If it were me, I'd be tempted to then get the remaining bit of roof at the rear painted black, plus the A-pillars for a true 2-tone look
gooner

I like the new Qashqui, it's a massive improvement on the last one which, I agree with Humph, had a far too low rent interior. Small capacity petrol turbos are getting really good these days so I'm not surprised you're impressed.

Well done on the new job.
Parm

Good luck with the new job Bob. The Qashqui is a great choice.
PG

Is the Audi an auto or a manual? If a manual, that'll be an even worse pisser after having an auto BM.
Giant

Nissan do a fantastic metallic coppery colour, but I've only seen one in that colour so presume that's a (even more) premium colour!
PhilD

White or red it's definitely miles better looking than that ugly new X-Trail

Roadsterstu

michael wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:

There seems to be a move by all manufacturers to only have one colour that they don't charge extra for. I think with Nissan it's the red, the FIAT 500 I think it is the white.


So people with a hearing aid brown coloured 500 have actually paid extra for that? Good god.

Congratulations on the job.


One of those round the corner from me. Always stupidly parked, it blends in nicely with the block paved road surface. Hopefully,  someone will drive into it.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
£725 for a fashionable colour?

Do you know how much a 2-tone paint job (including metallic) on a Captur costs at full RRP ???

(no, neither do I, but it isn't cheap)
Giant

PhilD wrote:
White or red it's definitely miles better looking than that ugly new X-Trail


I assume you're being ironic, given they look identical?
BeN

Qashqai not the worst car in the world to have, really. Decent drive and pretty practical.

Congrats on the new job.
Humphrey The Pug

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Twelfth Monkey wrote:
£725 for a fashionable colour?

Do you know how much a 2-tone paint job (including metallic) on a Captur costs at full RRP ???

(no, neither do I, but it isn't cheap)


In most cases it actually costs more to spray a car in the "free" non metallic paint than it does in the cost option metallic, this is due to lower volumes of the non metallic colour.

Metallic paint is the biggest options earner for manufacturers.
JohnC

Drive the deal have a few new Qashqai in their Special Offer section - if nothing else it might give you some bargaining power.
PhilD

Giant wrote:
PhilD wrote:
White or red it's definitely miles better looking than that ugly new X-Trail


I assume you're being ironic, given they look identical?


What? the door handles are a different colour for a start.
Bob Sacamano

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Twelfth Monkey wrote:
£725 for a fashionable colour?

Do you know how much a 2-tone paint job (including metallic) on a Captur costs at full RRP ???

(no, neither do I, but it isn't cheap)


In most cases it actually costs more to spray a car in the "free" non metallic paint than it does in the cost option metallic, this is due to lower volumes of the non metallic colour.

Metallic paint is the biggest options earner for manufacturers.


The guys in the paintshop at the Nissan plant told me it cost them £35 to paint a Qashqai and due to the cost of the pigments, white and red were the most expensive.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

The Qashqai white is pearlescent,  the only such colour option.
gooner

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Twelfth Monkey wrote:
£725 for a fashionable colour?

Do you know how much a 2-tone paint job (including metallic) on a Captur costs at full RRP ???

(no, neither do I, but it isn't cheap)


In most cases it actually costs more to spray a car in the "free" non metallic paint than it does in the cost option metallic, this is due to lower volumes of the non metallic colour.

Metallic paint is the biggest options earner for manufacturers.


Doesn't surprise me. It seems though that the recent popularity of White has seen it removed from the standard paint options list. It wasn't long ago that the free non-metallic paint option actually increased the monthly cost of leasing a vehicle as metallic cars had a better resale value. It's for this reason that so many Police cars are silver instead of white beneath the hi-vis vinyl wrap these days.
Bob Sacamano

Well, deed is done. Placed the deposit yesterday. Pearl white with the Smart Vision pack, added in the 4 years servicing. It should arrive next Thursday so we may have it by next weekend. Off out now to wash the 500 for the last time.
Clunes

Congrats

A few around my way as well and they are a nice looking vehicle and a great choice in that class

Hope you have many happy miles in it
PhilD

Obviously all I now see are bloody Qashqais, and white is actually ok. They do look much bigger than the last one, especially compared with the original 'SWB' version, which in turn now looks pretty compact. Good choice overall I think Bob, and sounds like it fits the bill perfectly for your needs.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Bob Sacamano wrote:
It should arrive next Thursday so we may have it by next weekend. Off out now to wash the 500 for the last time.


Did you buy one from stock, or was it fortunate that there was one to your sepc "lying around" somewhere?  It certainly beats a 20 week wait for a Captur !
Bob Sacamano

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
It should arrive next Thursday so we may have it by next weekend. Off out now to wash the 500 for the last time.


Did you buy one from stock, or was it fortunate that there was one to your sepc "lying around" somewhere?  It certainly beats a 20 week wait for a Captur !


It's not in stock until the 20th. I believe it was just the right one in the right spec coming through from the factory at the right time. The only option we added was the Smart Vision Pack, which at £495 for front and rear parking sensors, lane-departure and collision-warning systems, automatic switching between high and low headlight beams, and traffic sign recognition, was a no-brainer really. So much so I think they build a number with it already added.
Bob Sacamano

PhilD wrote:
Obviously all I now see are bloody Qashqais, and white is actually ok. They do look much bigger than the last one, especially compared with the original 'SWB' version, which in turn now looks pretty compact. Good choice overall I think Bob, and sounds like it fits the bill perfectly for your needs.


Yes, it's funny that. Until 2 weeks ago a Qasqai was right off our radar and now I see them everywhere and one in 5 seem to be white. I've gone from being fairly ambivalent about changing the 500C and just looking for something that will fit a Spaniel and some golf clubs, to looking forward to next weekend now.

I'll miss the 500 though, it's a bloody good little car. I wouldn't have any other small city car.
Martin

Having a really short wait for a brand new car but still getting the exact spec you want is brilliant!  

I'm starting to see a lot more of the new model too over the last few days, but the old version is everywhere.  When we were on the M6 a couple of weeks ago in the school holidays, it was like a Qashqai owners club outing!
Bob Sacamano

There actually is a Qashqai Owners Club which I think is possibly one of the saddest things I've seen. I don't think I'll be joining.


Then again, if there's a T-shirt and a sticker in it...
Martin

Don't you have to have a couple of small kids as well as a dog to pass the joining criteria?
Bob Sacamano

Martin wrote:
Don't you have to have a couple of small kids as well as a dog to pass the joining criteria?


Probably... plus a chip on your shoulder as you were too poor to buy the Range Rover Sport you really wanted, but don't worry a set of chrome roof rails and carefully applied kick plates and you're good to go.

I am tempted to sign Mrs Sacamano up, just to get her back for signing me up to the Donkey Sanctuary newsletter.
PhilD

I've also just realised how good the Mark 1 facelift was. Just the interior letting it down.
Michael

Bob Sacamano wrote:
I am tempted to sign Mrs Sacamano up, just to get her back for signing me up to the Donkey Sanctuary newsletter.


They're relentless aren't they?
Bob Sacamano

michael wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
I am tempted to sign Mrs Sacamano up, just to get her back for signing me up to the Donkey Sanctuary newsletter.


They're relentless aren't they?


There's one donkey, Donk Dean, who writes all the time, telling me what he's up to, sending me raffle tickets to sell (want to buy some BTW? First prize £5k), stickers for my letters etc. I think I've got 300 donkey Xmas cards, a donkey draught excluder, mug, wooly hat (with ears) and onesie coming.
Bob Sacamano

Well, the Cashcow has arrived, we picked it up Sunday morning and I have to say we're really pleased. The handover from Benfield Nissan was great and we stuck the dog in the back and went for a run up into Northumberland. The engine is so smooth it makes mine sound like a tractor, all the controls are light and there's a nice commanding view from the driver's seat. The quality inside is really very good - 90-95% of BMW/Audi - with soft touch plastics and a nice piano black surround to the audio and across the dash.
It's an Accenta with the smart vision pack that reads the road signs and incorporates a collision mitigation radar that automatically brakes if it thinks you're going to hit the vehicle in front, auto lights, auto wipers, bluetooth streaming of music from the phone etc. Mrs Sacamano is delighted - she's just got to learn to park it now!








Big Blue

See: they look great in white.
JohnC

That's a good looking car and sounds like a nice place to be.
PG

Glad you and the Mrs like it. Very smart and I'm also seeing lots of new model Qashqais about on the road, so it's clearly a sales success already.

That interior is leagues ahead of the old one.
Martin

That looks very smart and the interior does look like a big improvement.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Re: Nissan Qashqai 1.2 Dig-T

Bob Sacamano wrote:
..... the choice has really come down to the Ford Kuga or the Nissan Qashqai.

The Kuga is somewhat bigger than the Qashqai even if some versions come with parking sensors as standard.

I hope the dog enjoys the Qashqai too !
Bob Sacamano

Re: Nissan Qashqai 1.2 Dig-T

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
..... the choice has really come down to the Ford Kuga or the Nissan Qashqai.

The Kuga is somewhat bigger than the Qashqai even if some versions come with parking sensors as standard.

I hope the dog enjoys the Qashqai too !


There's not much in it really - the Kuga is a good bit taller though. Personally, I think the Mk1 Kuga is better looking than the current one.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Seeing as I am researching a Galaxy replacement,
Qashqai 4379mm long   1800mm wide   1590mm high
Kuga Mk II 4524mm long   2077mm wide  1689mm high
XC60 (non R-design) 4644mm long  1891mm wide   1713mm high
Bob Sacamano

A Kuga is 1838mm wide.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Then the 2077 is between mirrors (taken from  the Ford spec)
Bob Sacamano

A Kuga is 1838mm wide.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

I wonder if white tinted windows will catch on?
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Smart-looking car, the new Qashqai, hampered only by the limited choice of engines.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Smart-looking car, the new Qashqai, hampered only by the limited choice of engines.

and lack of a spare wheel/tyre, even as an option  

and a restricted range of colours to choose from
Roadsterstu

Looks good, Bob. I like that.
Bob Sacamano

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Smart-looking car, the new Qashqai, hampered only by the limited choice of engines.


There's a new 163bhp 1.6 Dig T engine out now as well.
Bob Sacamano

Roadsterstu wrote:
Looks good, Bob. I like that.


Can you get me a roll of that orange striping you put down the side of your vehicles??  
Bob Sacamano

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Smart-looking car, the new Qashqai, hampered only by the limited choice of engines.

and lack of a spare wheel/tyre, even as an option  

and a restricted range of colours to choose from


There's absolutely no way I'd by any car, no matter how much I liked it, if it came with a spare wheel.

EDIT: Seriously, Chris, if it bothers you that much your Nissan dealer will sell you an Emergency Spare Wheel Kit part No Specified is #J11RAD, which comes with a 16" wheel, spacesaver tyre, jack, and wheel brace. It also includes the spacers to allow it to fit under the load floor, in place of the storage area you find there.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Bob Sacamano wrote:
The engine is so smooth it makes mine sound like a tractor


Nissan 4-cylinder engine (actually it's a Renault engine) in "better than a BMW 6-pot" shock
TreVoR

That does look smart. I really disliked the old one.
Humphrey The Pug

TreVoR wrote:
That does look smart. I really disliked the old one.


Glad I'm not the only one, I never saw the appeal, the new one however is a lovely looking bit of kit.
gonnabuildabuggy

Another Qashqai fan here. That looks nice though I think they are all white arent they?

I'd planned one to replace the FRV eventually and even ponder getting a new one now to replace it (and I get the FRV and a Classic to replace the E500).
Martin

Bob Sacamano wrote:
There's absolutely no way I'd by any car, no matter how much I liked it, if it came with a spare wheel


Same here, which is why neither car has one.  Why cart around all the unecessary weight and reduce the practicality?  Madness.

PhilD

Martin wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
There's absolutely no way I'd by any car, no matter how much I liked it, if it came with a spare wheel


Same here, which is why neither car has one.  Why cart around all the unecessary weight and reduce the practicality?  Madness.



I want a car with a spare wheel sized shape in the boot into which I can put a wheel shaped suitcase.
gonnabuildabuggy

Martin wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
There's absolutely no way I'd by any car, no matter how much I liked it, if it came with a spare wheel


Same here, which is why neither car has one.  Why cart around all the unecessary weight and reduce the practicality?  Madness.



There speaks a man who's never had a blowout  

The only times I've had to change a wheel on a car (4 times) the tyre has been cut/blown - the can would be useless.

I too wouldn't go without some form of spare.
JohnC

Runflats have few advantages but at least they will still get you home even if the tread area is totally sliced. The sidewalls are bullet proof and would remain until there was virtually nothing left of the rest of the tyre.
PhilD

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Martin wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
There's absolutely no way I'd by any car, no matter how much I liked it, if it came with a spare wheel


Same here, which is why neither car has one.  Why cart around all the unecessary weight and reduce the practicality?  Madness.



There speaks a man who's never had a blowout  

The only times I've had to change a wheel on a car (4 times) the tyre has been cut/blown - the can would be useless.

I too wouldn't go without some form of spare.


Don't you just call the AA?
Martin

I've had a blowout and it was a pain as there wasn't a hard shoulder, so I couldn't safely change the wheel.  I've had a couple of puntures since, but of the slow variety, so not a problem either.

I wouldn't change my own wheel now, I'm not getting my hand dirty when I can call someone out to do it!    

Being a bit more serious, I'd rather have a good chance of being able to get to safety, but I wouldn't discount a car for not having (or having!) a spare wheel.
Giant

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
I wonder if white tinted windows will catch on?


It's quite common on rear windows of small vans, though who the mentalists who spec glass in the rear doors of a van in the first place is beyond me!

With regard to the spare/no spare debate, it wouldn't sway my choice on purchasing a car, surely there are far more important considerations than that.

I find it interesting how everyone weighs up the probability of an event happening against taking precautions to be prepared. I'm sure someone who views carrying a spare wheel just in case the unlikely event of a blowout occuring as essential will assess someone else's precautions in another event of daily life as far too cautious.

We can't prepare for all eventualities in all areas of life and we all draw the lines differently, and I often find those who draw their line hard to rationalise, I expect others think the same of me!
Giant

Glad you like te Qashqai btw Bob, everywhere I look now I see bloody white Qashqais! I also a saw a lovely midnight blue one. They have some great colour options, yet 99% are either black or white, particularly in my office car park!

For car that's been on sale less than a year (I think?) they are absolutely everywhere, they must be very close to top of the sales charts? Great for GB plc
Bob Sacamano

I've had two punctures in the last 15 years and both of them were slow punctures with a nail in the tread. I've never had a blow out so the importance of a spare wheel is not so great for me - it's a moot point anyway as it's my wife's car and there''s no way I'd have her trying to change a wheel by the side of a busy road. I would argue that the chance of serious injury when trying to change a wheel outweighs the small chance of being stranded somewhere unable to repair a tyre with foam.

For me the ideal option are runflats.
gooner

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Smart-looking car, the new Qashqai, hampered only by the limited choice of engines.

and lack of a spare wheel/tyre, even as an option  

and a restricted range of colours to choose from


I've been stranded on the M6 twice this year due to a shredded tyre. On each occasion it was a screw in the tyre but the time it takes to get across from lane 3 to the hard shoulder is long enough to destroy it (the first time I was in a section of roadworks with no hard shoulder and I'm not stopping in a live lane for a flat tyre so I had to go to the next junction, I was practically driving on the rim!). I bought a spare wheel for the Insignia at the weekend. £250! Good job it went on the company credit card.
Roadsterstu

Martin wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
There's absolutely no way I'd by any car, no matter how much I liked it, if it came with a spare wheel


Same here, which is why neither car has one.  Why cart around all the unecessary weight and reduce the practicality?  Madness.



When I had the 260 I bought a used, scruffy alloy and put one of my old tyres on it. This was then used as a spare, as the spare wheel well on the 260 models gave way to allow the diff and driveshaft to fit under the floor. I bought a cheap elasticated wheel cover and an elastic load net and sat the wheel smack bang in the middle of the boot floor. It took up quite a bit of room...!
gonnabuildabuggy

My spare wheel well is taken up by the LPG tank.

I've a space saver which just sits in the boot. Takes up a bit of space but not too bad.

I've also got a full size spare but only because the owner offered it with the car and I figure it's worth a hundred or so.

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