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Chris M Wanted a V-10

New S90 and V90

I happened to visit Reading yesterday, not because I wanted anything to read but because I was researching a couple of things before my forthcoming break.....
Anyway, in The Oracle Centre I chanced upon a Pope App (or was it a Pop Up?) which was a Volvo store with a V90, S90 and XC90 on display, so naturally I wandered inside.....

S90 and V90 aren't exactly game-changers but they certainly offer something different from the usual German high-end stuff.  The cars were supposedly pre-production but they were RHD and appeared to be built to production standard.  They looked vast although the slope of the V90's tailgate does mean that you won't get anything remotely bulky into the load area and still be able to close the tailgate, a far dry from being able to slide a wall paper pasting table in, lengthways and upright, in my parents old 145.  The rear seat base is also fixed, so folding the rear seat backs down increases te load bay but by nothing like as much as it could.  There is still a roll-up cargo net/dog guard cleverly concealed in the top of the rear seats, and the loadbay cover rises at its rear as the tailgate opens.  Boot floor rises with assistance from a gas strut to reveal a hidden storage area that can be locked using a secret code via a phone app, so even if someone breaks into the car they cannot open it; or you can lend your car to someone and they can't open this storage area unless you give them the code (not sure what happens if they get a puncture and don't have the code.....)

Dash and door trims are unusual (to me anyway) with what looked like perforated stainless steel covers over the loudspeakers and flat wooden surfaces on the dash, plus a large touchscreen.  Trouble is, that you end up with so many different surface materials and colours that it begins to look a little random.

At least it brightened up an otherwise dull time in a seemingly dull town (the huge BHS store has been closed but there's still a John Lewis).
Next week..... Swindon, maybe.....
Giant

Re: New S90 and V90

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:

At least it brightened up an otherwise dull time in a seemingly dull town (the huge BHS store has been closed but there's still a John Lewis).


Sometimes it's so hard to tell if a post is tongue in cheek or not!

I look forward to seeing a V90 in the flesh, looks great in photos.
PhilD

Re: New S90 and V90

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:


They looked vast although the slope of the V90's tailgate does mean that you won't get anything remotely bulky into the load area... the rear seat base is also fixed, so folding the rear seat backs down increases the load bay but by nothing like as much as it could.


It's not right! Maybe Volvo will bring out a proper old skool estate as well?
PG

Re: New S90 and V90

PhilD wrote:
It's not right! Maybe Volvo will bring out a proper old skool estate as well?


Is the XC 90 any bigger inside? Maybe that's the one for the old school Volvists? Or they could just hire a van if they need one.  
PhilD

Re: New S90 and V90

PG wrote:
PhilD wrote:
It's not right! Maybe Volvo will bring out a proper old skool estate as well?


Is the XC 90 any bigger inside? Maybe that's the one for the old school Volvists? Or they could just hire a van if they need one.  


or this...


Michael

Re: New S90 and V90

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:


They looked vast although the slope of the V90's tailgate does mean that you won't get anything remotely bulky into the load area... the rear seat base is also fixed, so folding the rear seat backs down increases the load bay but by nothing like as much as it could.


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The base in mine is fixed so only the seat back folds.
It's a shame the V90 has that raked boot as it rules it out for me and I had high hopes for it. I think I'll be getting a van next.
Frank Bullitt

Re: New S90 and V90

PG wrote:
PhilD wrote:
It's not right! Maybe Volvo will bring out a proper old skool estate as well?


Is the XC 90 any bigger inside? Maybe that's the one for the old school Volvists? Or they could just hire a van if they need one.  


A friend of mine swapped his XC70 for an XC60 a few weeks back but this weekend his dealer found him another XC70 as he decided the XC60 was too small and the high centre of gravity made it feel ponderous - that he couldn't get lengths of 3m dado trunking in nailed the coffin shut.  He did look at an XC90, but decided it was awful to drive.
Sav

I went to the pop-up shop as well. The S90 felt lovely inside with leather seemingly covered on every surface, but I do ponder whether it was a fully-kitted out version, and whether every S90 would be that nice inside. The touchscreen was great to use, and well done to Volvo for having that workable, as Mercedes had a shop in the Oracle a while ago and the infotainment screens were switched off.

The XC90’s interior in contrast to the S90’s felt a bit cheaper, it wasn’t terrible by any means, but the areas that the S90 had covered with leather were plastic instead or didn't feel as plush. Again, I ponder whether it was merely a specification level difference between cars.

Nice to see cars in shopping centre’s! Beats looking at regular shops anyway…
PhilD

Sav wrote:


The XC90’s interior in contrast to the S90’s felt a bit cheaper, it wasn’t terrible by any means, but the areas that the S90 had covered with leather were plastic instead or didn't feel as plush. Again, I ponder whether it was merely a specification level difference between cars.


probably, the XC90s I've seen look very nice.
Nice Guy Eddie

The new Volvo interiors are second to none. Get the spec right and they're gorgeous.
Giant

Slightly off topic, but when did a stall or a stand become a pop up shop?
ds240

Giant wrote:
Slightly off topic, but when did a stall or a stand become a pop up shop?


Or existing shops who have a 'pop up sale'... So you just have a sale on then!

Just a horrible marketing term that's currently popular.
Chip Butty

I think the new V90 is a fabulous looking thing with a beautiful interior. The configurator for that and the S90 are live and they are very good value.

From memory, it's only an additional £1150 for the full leather wrapped interior on the Inscription trim level.
Roadsterstu

Re: New S90 and V90

Frank Bullitt wrote:
PG wrote:
PhilD wrote:
It's not right! Maybe Volvo will bring out a proper old skool estate as well?


Is the XC 90 any bigger inside? Maybe that's the one for the old school Volvists? Or they could just hire a van if they need one.  


A friend of mine swapped his XC70 for an XC60 a few weeks back but this weekend his dealer found him another XC70 as he decided the XC60 was too small and the high centre of gravity made it feel ponderous - that he couldn't get lengths of 3m dado trunking in nailed the coffin shut.  He did look at an XC90, but decided it was awful to drive.


Thought the  new XC90 was supposed to be a great thing to own and drive? Certainly a lovely place to sit.

I had a good look over the the V90 and S90 at Geneva. They are very nice things indeed. I can't recall exactly what the load space is but the V90 isn't small. I doubt a raked rear window would stop me buying if that was on my list.
Roadsterstu

ds240 wrote:
Giant wrote:
Slightly off topic, but when did a stall or a stand become a pop up shop?


Or existing shops who have a 'pop up sale'... So you just have a sale on then!

Just a horrible marketing term that's currently popular.


Indeed. A new term to use. Going forward. (There's another hateful term).
Martin

I assume FBs friend drove the old model, that wasn't great to drive
PhilD

ds240 wrote:
Giant wrote:
Slightly off topic, but when did a stall or a stand become a pop up shop?


Or existing shops who have a 'pop up sale'... So you just have a sale on then!

Just a horrible marketing term that's currently popular.


Must be tiring being constantly angry at the modern world...  

Pop up isn't just a stall, could be a whole shop or a restaurant for example. I think it's a useful addition to our language.

I'm with Stu on "Going forward" though
Frank Bullitt

Martin wrote:
I assume FBs friend drove the old model, that wasn't great to drive


Sorry, yes it was the old model.
PG

PhilD wrote:
Pop up isn't just a stall, could be a whole shop or a restaurant for example. I think it's a useful addition to our language.

I'm with Stu on "Going forward" though


Agreed "pop up" is useful. It originally meant a short term let on an empty space so popped up and soon disappeared.

May I add "leverage" to the massacre list?
Frank Bullitt

Whilst we are at it you can add 'redouble your efforts' - my limited grasp of the language is that you can renew, refresh, re energise (etc) or 'double your efforts' but it is entirely impossible to 'redouble your efforts' on account this is repeating something which you have not already undertaken.

It's a shit term and the perpetrators should be boiled.
Boxer6

Frank Bullitt wrote:
Whilst we are at it you can add 'redouble your efforts' - my limited grasp of the language is that you can renew, refresh, re energise (etc) or 'double your efforts' but it is entirely impossible to 'redouble your efforts' on account this is repeating something which you have not already undertaken.

It's a shit term and the perpetrators should be boiled.


Ooh . . . quite a while since I've seen anyone using that phrase - used to be pretty common round here, especially in the 'villains' thread!
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Ah, how the use/meaning of the word "perpetrator" has changed in just a few years.
It used to mean someone who carried out work or a deed badly, now it means someone who carries out a bad deed or piece of work
Bob Sacamano

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Ah, how the use/meaning of the word "perpetrator" has changed in just a few years.
It used to mean someone who carried out work or a deed badly, now it means someone who carries out a bad deed or piece of work


You must have been using it incorrectly, it's always meant the latter.
PhilD

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Ah, how the use/meaning of the word "perpetrator" has changed in just a few years.
It used to mean someone who carried out work or a deed badly, now it means someone who carries out a bad deed or piece of work


You must have been using it incorrectly, it's always meant the latter.


Indeed thought you could argue Chris's two examples are the same!
gonnabuildabuggy

Autocar like it a lot and from what I can see, engine aside perhaps, so do I.

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