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Andy C

New Leon Cupra

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news...nd-all-wheel-drive-estate-version

Now this really does Appeal

4wd, estate, 300hp and dare I say it , better looking than a golf r estate  . Basically a golf r , but a lot cheaper


If the  big discounts/depreciation hit  are anything like the current cupra , then this could  be very tempting
Blarno

DSG only though, which means stupid farty pop upshifts.
PhilD

Blarno wrote:
DSG only though, which means stupid farty pop upshifts.


as they are fake you must be able to turn them off?
Blarno

Not necessarily. Sporty innit?
PhilD

I don't mean a standard setting but find a car geek with a laptop.
Michael

I like that. I'd have the DSG over a manual given the choice.
simonp

Hmm, not sure about this. The wheels are slightly better looking, but still have that painted and polished finish which I never really liked. Don't like the new front bumper much either. They've introduced curves to a very angular car design and I don't think it works. Also, what are those little lights for? Are they DRLs? One of the best bits about the current Leon is the DRLs around the headlight...
gonnabuildabuggy

Like that too.

In my "post kids" garage I can see a Golf R/R Estate fitting in nicely, problem is the Golf R Estate is no looker, that Estate is.
Martin

I like it as well, looks a fair bit nicer than the current model and like the idea of 4WD estate.
Bob Sacamano

Very nice that. Prices will be interesting.
gooner

Looks good but reading the article it says nothing about the Cupra having 4wd only that the estate is offered as a 4wd model but there's nothing to suggest the Cupra versions will get the option. I suspect VW don't want it to step on the Golf R's toes too much.
Frank Bullitt

Looks good, the typical standard of driving will look less good I suspect.
gooner

Frank Bullitt wrote:
Looks good, the typical standard of driving will look less good I suspect.


Let's hope Simon doesn't buy another then!
simonp

There are a hundred reasons why I wouldn't buy another and the accident ain't one on 'em!
JohnC

simonp wrote:
There are a hundred reasons why I wouldn't buy another and the accident ain't one on 'em!


Given the general appreciation of the Golf R and the similarity of the Seat, what is it that makes you so adamant that you wouldn't have another?
simonp

The reliability, the dealers, SEAT UK's unhelpfulness, the poor traction, the crap headlights, the brittle ride, the handling that meant keeping up with a Golf with much less power was nigh on impossible, the annoying stereo. That's just a few rattled off from memory..
Martin

Did you buy it without a test drive?
simonp

Nope, but I did test drive it on a warm sunny day in lots of traffic and with a fair bit of mechanical sympathy because the demo car didn't have many miles on it. It had only just been in the mags, so getting a weekend loan from a dealer I'd never before visited wasn't very likely...

Saying that, though, just getting that drive proved difficult, so I should've approached the whole episode with more caution!
PhilD

Quite a few of you have had difficulty getting proper test drives, it's crazy really when you think how much cars cost.
Boxer6

PhilD wrote:
Quite a few of you have had difficulty getting proper test drives, it's crazy really when you think how much cars cost.


Over eight years ago now, I know, but I had a Legacy SpecB for a full days test before I signed up for mine.

In Possil too, though I can't remember if I actually told them about that!!    
Andy C

simonp wrote:
The reliability, the dealers, SEAT UK's unhelpfulness, the poor traction, the crap headlights, the brittle ride, the handling that meant keeping up with a Golf with much less power was nigh on impossible, the annoying stereo. That's just a few rattled off from memory..


Not sure if the headlights and stereo were upgradable  ,but did you have the adaptive suspension ?  And was ride brittle even in comfort mode ?

The traction, and keeping up with a lesser powered golf , will be sorted by the 4wd I'm sure
gooner

Andy C wrote:
simonp wrote:
The reliability, the dealers, SEAT UK's unhelpfulness, the poor traction, the crap headlights, the brittle ride, the handling that meant keeping up with a Golf with much less power was nigh on impossible, the annoying stereo. That's just a few rattled off from memory..


Not sure if the headlights and stereo were upgradable  ,but did you have the adaptive suspension ?  And was ride brittle even in comfort mode ?

The traction, and keeping up with a lesser powered golf , will be sorted by the 4wd I'm sure


I think Simon did have the upgrade LED lights but they weren't the fully blown voodoo items that Martin has and I think he found them to be worse than the xenons on the R32.
Martin

It's not just the lack of voodoo, the Leon has the low powered LEDs which are a step down from Xenons.  Not all Xenons are equal either, so you have to be careful.

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