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franki68

Move down south,get ripped off

Getting used to higher prices,but workmen.....Jesus Christ...firstly try finding one that isn't booked up for 3 months,then gasp in horror as they quote sums which by my reckoning means a tiler down here must earn 300k/year.

Just been quoted a bathroom job,identical to work I had done in Manchester,I paid 800 in Manchester,the guys here want 3000 for as I see it 2-3 days work max.

So if any of know a tiler near Cheltenham let me know.
Scouse

Re: Move down south,get ripped off

franki68 wrote:
Getting used to higher prices,but workmen.....Jesus Christ...firstly try finding one that isn't booked up for 3 months,then gasp in horror as they quote sums which by my reckoning means a tiler down here must earn 300k/year.

Just been quoted a bathroom job,identical to work I had done in Manchester,I paid 800 in Manchester,the guys here want 3000 for as I see it 2-3 days work max.

So if any of know a tiler near Cheltenham let me know.


Offer your original tiler the job and put him up in a B&B - still going to be less than 3k....
JohnC

I have 2 plasters and an electrician both working in London on a temporary basis, making nearly double the money they make up here and that is after the cost of digs and travel!

I'd agree on bringing the outsider in (or going to train as a tiler!)
Grampa

I had a client who sold a South West Wales business and bought a North Wales one and would only employ contractors (of all sorts of trades) from South West Wales as he reckoned it was better value with more trustworthy people.
Bob Sacamano

My mate is a Legal Advisor and he's just jacked in and re-trained as a tiler as he can make more money at it. He's got his first week's work coming up and reckons with the interest that's been shown already he should quickly get 3 month of work lined up pretty quickly.

As has been said; put your guy from up north in a B&B - you'll get a better job and it'll work out cheaper.

I don't know why anybody hasn't thought of putting a little team together, say some Geordie brickies, a Scouse plasterer, a Brummie electrician, ok, perhaps a Cockney joiner, and send them off all over doing little contracts.
Big Blue

Yeah when I've had work done in Spain, Germany or Slovakia I marvel at the low cost. In France I just swear a lot as they're (a) expensive and (b) mainly absent.

Another shout for getting your man to stay over. Our cleaner gets taxi'd into the countryside to clean a client's house because she's cheaper and better than anyone local.
franki68

Thought about bringing them down ,will give it a go.
It's not just tilers though ,any job is 3-4 times the price
PhilD

franki68 wrote:
Thought about bringing them down ,will give it a go.
It's not just tilers though ,any job is 3-4 times the price


Might be cheaper to buy a local B&B then if you have a lot of work that needs doing.
gonnabuildabuggy

franki68 wrote:
Thought about bringing them down ,will give it a go.
It's not just tilers though ,any job is 3-4 times the price


Indeed. A few things you need to bear in mind about life darn sarf...

1. Laws of supply and demand - lots of people want work doing and less tradesmen around (see 2.)

2. Cost of living is higher, so people (in theory) need to charge more to cover their outgoings. Plus the high costs of houses mean that there are less tradesmen living locally. I can't see your average tiler affording a reasonable house in Stowe on the Wold (nor can I see it being worth as tiler from Manchester relocating to Cheltenham permanently).

3. There are more rich people around, many of who don't really know the value of money so are quite happy to overpay tradespeople as they have no idea what's involved. Tradesmen get used to it/are happy overcharging and thus local prices rise.

I remember when my parents got their double glazing done in the 80's the lads who did it came down from Sheffield and were planning to sleep in their van. And this was industrial south wales, not the South East.

When I found out what the window cleaner from Reading who i bought the 320 convertible from was charging to do nice houses out in the countryside for I nearly fainted. 150 for cleaning windows.....and this was 5 yrs or so ago, I only pay 11 now and our house isn't small.

So the conclusion must be there are a lot of fools down here.

And, when the Poles go back prices will go up even more  
JohnC

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:

And, when the Poles go back prices will go up even more


I'm keeping my Polish girl regardless. She is brilliant: she can do things with Excel I have never seen before and any software issue she has sorted in no time - even the helpline gurus are impressed and learn from her. She's sprinkled in gold dust!
Big Blue

JohnC wrote:


I'm keeping my Polish girl regardless.


Is MrsC aware of this?
JohnC

Big Blue wrote:
JohnC wrote:


I'm keeping my Polish girl regardless.


Is MrsC aware of this?


Yes she is and she agrees (probably because my wife has nothing to worry about on the looks front). However I will digress that I had a new client in yesterday and I hardly remember a word she said. She was Greek but spoke perfect English and was about as perfect and pretty as I think it is possible to make a woman. I haven't been so distracted for as long as I can remember. My wife said after she left "so how was your Greek Goddess" to which I could only reply "she was". I have had a few comments today including one about losing her contact details but wow just wow!
gooner

I have a mate I used to work with who had bugger all qualifications and retrained as a plasterer. Reckons he clears 100k P/A easily but to be fair he does have to work 80 hours a week to do it.
Blarno

Very often I think about getting back into the building trade, but I don't actually have any qualifications beyond knowledge.
PG

PhilD wrote:
franki68 wrote:
Thought about bringing them down ,will give it a go.
It's not just tilers though ,any job is 3-4 times the price


Might be cheaper to buy a local B&B then if you have a lot of work that needs doing.


 

Shipping in people is the way to go.

The difference in rates for trades tells you everything you need to know about the way the economy is overly tilted towards the south east.
Frank Bullitt

My mate is a tiler, he charges 150 a day and lives just outside of Hitchin. What I do find is each area has a certain trade that is hideously expensive, where I live it's plumbers - they all charge 350 a day, just the way it is
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Almost impossible to get plumbers here, even for a reasonable fee. That's why I have ended up doing a majority of the minor plumbing work required in my house myself.  I draw the line at changing a bathtub or boiler though !

Struggled to find a fencing company who could replace panels inbetween concrete posts in the late summer; need to get a garden gate fitted at my parents' house between the new house and the fence but so far we've been told next February is the earliest available date ! 4 months away.....

Not just high prices but as has been said above, shortage of the required skills due to the general cost of living down here
Tim

It's not just Dahn Sarf.
We got a quote from a joiner for replacing 2 bits of worktop, both with a sink and he said 2 days and 700.
It's something that should take a couple of hours.
I guess he just didn't want the work.

We've had a hellish time trying to get an electrician to do a bit of work in the kitchen as well - I assume they're all busy on bigger jobs and can't be arsed with something that will only cover a morning.
scamper

Re: Move down south,get ripped off

franki68 wrote:


So if any of know a tiler near Cheltenham let me know.


I'll ask my contacts. Vaguely where near Cheltenham?

Where we are in Surrey, it's just awash with money or so it seems. A friend who installs windows says he's laughing, having moved recently from the midlands.

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