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Humphrey The Pug

Motability changes

The Daily Mail has been on it's high horse lately with inaccurate reporting, poor journalism and some fairly savage and disgusting comments by readers all aimed at the Motability scheme, yes there is abuse but there is far more abuse elsewhere and contary to what the readers and journalist of the Daily Mail think, the changes made to the Motability scheme will not make a jot of difference to DLA payments.

Anyway now effective immediately cars are limited to a 2000 advance payment, unless the car is to be adapted for wheelchair access, doesn't really affect us as any car over that no one wants, they would rather plough their 2k or over into a Mercedes or BMW, however my view is if they want to and can afford to why not let them.

Any nominated driver under the age of 21 has to now live at the address of the applicant and they are limited to an insurance grouping of 16 (I'm guessing based on the new groupings of 1-50) and no more than 115bhp, this is a good idea.

Another good idea is that as of 1st Jan 2012 all nominate drivers must live no more than 5 miles away from the applicant, obviously to stop nominated drivers using the car for themselves, which does happen.

There will also now be Statement of Responsibilities whioch will have to be signed by the applicant, nominted drivers and the dealer to confirm that all parties understands the scheme policies, this probably won't be worth the paper that it is written on however may get the applicant thinking about what they are doing if they are abusing the system.

Motability are also going to increase their capacity to investigate and act upon allegations of abuse.

Some good and some not so good, abuse of the system will never be eradicated but hopefully these changes can help.
Bob Sacamano

Never understood what was wrong with them little blue three wheelers you used to see buzzing about.
gonnabuildabuggy

The figures I'd read elsewhere (not the DM) showed high levels of abuse and Pistonheads has had a few threads of people fed up with others they work with abusing the system.

I'm not 100% convinced on why it seems a universal benefit as well. Someone Mrs. GBB works with gets it due to their disabled daughter. They are financially better off than us so why is their motoring subsidised to that level?

On the other hand perhaps it subsidises other costs they incur with her?

There are no easier answers and it's going to get tougher. However going back to the blue cars would stop any abuse  
Frank Bullitt

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Never understood what was wrong with them little blue three wheelers you used to see buzzing about.


+1

I haven't the faintest how Motability works - is it a case of getting a benefit that can then be paid direct to a car dealer which gets you into a motability car?  Who pays the advance payment, is it the user?
Twelfth Monkey

Yes.
Michael

I think the cars on the list should be restricted to good British cars made by good British workers... Guessing that was the DM line?
Giant

Michael wrote:
I think the cars on the list should be restricted to good British cars made by good British workers... Guessing that was the DM line?


You sound like Dradus Contact! What's happened to him?
Humphrey The Pug

Michael wrote:
I think the cars on the list should be restricted to good British cars made by good British workers... Guessing that was the DM line?


That wasn't the DM line but it was featured quite regularly in the comments section, along with pretty much everyone thinking that the Governement are giving these people a car.
Roadsterstu

I read the DM article as well. Putting aside the shock and horror elements that they added, the system was no doubt long overdue a radical overhaul. The same is true of the Blue Badge, which everyone knows is widely abused, basically because it is so easy to do so.

Its a shame if it makes it harder for the genuine cases but had the system been administered properly then abuse wouldn't have been so prevalent.
Bob Sacamano

Michael wrote:
I think the cars on the list should be restricted to good British cars made by good British workers... Guessing that was the DM line?


Astons then.

If you are disabled or have a disabled child then I don't think it's unreasonable that you should get some help from the State to aid mobility - and 200 a month seems fair. It would cover a decent car from most of the mainstream manufacturers. I do question, however, that if you can afford to top this amount up to such a degree that you can get a 37k luxury car, maybe you don't need the help.
If we cut out the abuse we could give more help to those who really need it - more respite care for example.
Michael

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Michael wrote:
I think the cars on the list should be restricted to good British cars made by good British workers... Guessing that was the DM line?


Astons then.

If you are disabled or have a disabled child then I don't think it's unreasonable that you should get some help from the State to aid mobility - and 200 a month seems fair. It would cover a decent car from most of the mainstream manufacturers. I do question, however, that if you can afford to top this amount up to such a degree that you can get a 37k luxury car, maybe you don't need the help.
If we cut out the abuse we could give more help to those who really need it - more respite care for example.


I think Aston is funded by an Arabian financial group so it's got to be Morgan or McLaren.

I agree funds should go to the more deserving and respite care.
gonnabuildabuggy

Michael wrote:
I agree funds should go to the more deserving and respite care.


+10
Scouse

it is a farce when I'm entitled to it & a blue badge. Sure on bad day I can't walk very far. But then again on a bad day I tend to stay at home drugged to the eyeballs....
Boxer6

Scouse wrote:
it is a farce when I'm entitled to it & a blue badge. Sure on bad day I can't walk very far. But then again on a bad day I tend to stay at home drugged to the eyeballs....


Having been a cancer sufferer I too am entitled to a blue badge, even though I've been back at work for over a year and a half! I haven't claimed for it, as I feel it would simply be taking the piss.

I was also entitled to claim for DLA (which I did, and got) for the period I was off sick.
Scouse

the problem being of course, that not everyone has the same attitude & will take advantage & claim for everything that they can (Blairs claiming child benefit anyone?).
Boxer6

Scouse wrote:
the problem being of course, that not everyone has the same attitude & will take advantage & claim for everything that they can (Blairs claiming child benefit anyone?).


Too right! It was a colleague of mine who told me I qualified for the Blue Badge, and he only knew because his brother has one; acquired some TWO YEARS after finishing his treatment for testicular cancer!!

Incidentally, my employment status also changed as a result of my illness - apparently, I'm now employed under the auspices of the Disability Discrimination Act, what ever that means!

(I'm not totally sure HR know that mind you. That little nugget came to me courtesy of MacMillan Cancer Care)
Gooner

My brother in law qualified for a blue badge after a big car accident a few years ago left him with a shattered pelvis. Even when he was perfectly able bodied again he was still entitled to it so understandably kept it as it allows free parking on double yellows anywhere in Horsham town centre. I'm not saying it's right to keep the blue badge when you no longer need it but if the system says you can have it, I can appreciate why people do keep it.

B-I-L did eventually hand it back along with his Motability car when he signed up for the Met as they don't take on disabled coppers.
gonnabuildabuggy

Boxer6 wrote:
Incidentally, my employment status also changed as a result of my illness - apparently, I'm now employed under the auspices of the Disability Discrimination Act, what ever that means!

(I'm not totally sure HR know that mind you. That little nugget came to me courtesy of MacMillan Cancer Care)


HR definitely know, you've just helped them fill their targets for disabled workers without them having to recruit anyone.

Gooner wrote:
I'm not saying it's right to keep the blue badge when you no longer need it but if the system says you can have it, I can appreciate why people do keep it.

B-I-L did eventually hand it back along with his Motability car when he signed up for the Met as they don't take on disabled coppers.


Sorry, but you BIL has just shamed coppers, for them to be willing to abuse the system like that is disgusting. These should be people of honour and upstanding (as I'm sure most are), not benefit abusers. Please feel free to tell him as well. I hope when his colleagues are being made redundant due to lack of money, he's remembering how handy it was to have a subsidised car he no longer needed.
Roadsterstu

Yup, wonder if he has some honesty now.
Gooner

He's not a benefit abuser. When he was given the badge he genuinely needed it. Ok so eventually when he was no longer in full need of it, he still kept it for a short while, but it wasn't long and in my mind makes up for the poor treatment he received by the NHS hospitals he had the misfortune to be holed up in for months.

At the same time as handing it in he also handed back his Motability car that he was perfectly entitled to keep but no longer needed - this caused all sorts of problems because the doctors said he needed it for at least 2 more years and Motability refused for a long time to let him give it up.

He is now a very upstanding copper who has worked bloody hard over the last 3 years since starting with the Met and has just earn't a place in CID.
Roadsterstu

Gooner wrote:
He is now a very upstanding copper who has worked bloody hard over the last 3 years since starting with the Met and has just earn't a place in CID.


No more hard work, then.  He can put his pen away for a rest.

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