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Frank Bullitt

More abuse than the M-Sport and AMG badges

Sports Personality of the Year.

He's made a decent fist of it but I don't think he's the most successful British sports person of the year and, let's be honest, it's about time they dropped 'ality' from the title as he's utterly devoid of one of those, as are many other previous winners.
PhilD

Good timing, had he won 3 or 4 months ago he's be top three at best. Still, he is clearly more popular in the UK than on this forum!
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Re: More abuse than the M-Sport and AMG badges

Frank Bullitt wrote:
..... but I don't think he's the most successful British sports person of the year ......


But wasn't this put out to a public vote, so that whatever you may think, Joe Public disagrees with you?
JohnC

It goes to show that F1 is still very popular - maybe this will persuade the BBC to keep its F1 coverage.
Frank Bullitt

Re: More abuse than the M-Sport and AMG badges

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
..... but I don't think he's the most successful British sports person of the year ......


But wasn't this put out to a public vote, so that whatever you may think, Joe Public disagrees with you?


Indeed, but I would have got over it if he wasn't such a monosylabicly dull excuse for a personality.

Those people also vote for lots of other things I don't understand.
BeN

I don't get why people keep harping on the 'personality' bit. In this case 'personality' simply means 'celebrity' or 'someone famous'. Not that they have actual personality.

See number 7:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/personality?s=t
PhilD

BeN wrote:
I don't get why people keep harping on the 'personality' bit. In this case 'personality' simply means 'celebrity' or 'someone famous'. Not that they have actual personality.

See number 7:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/personality?s=t


maybe because if you have to seek recourse in the 7th possible meaning of a word in the dictionary you have a weak argument?
simonp

I don't see any argument at all. According to that link celebrity is a synonym for personality and therefore the title of Sports Personality is perfectly applicable to someone who is merely famous and devoid of definition 1 or 2...
BeN

PhilD wrote:
BeN wrote:
I don't get why people keep harping on the 'personality' bit. In this case 'personality' simply means 'celebrity' or 'someone famous'. Not that they have actual personality.

See number 7:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/personality?s=t


maybe because if you have to seek recourse in the 7th possible meaning of a word in the dictionary you have a weak argument?


Cambridge:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/personality

Oxford:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/personality

Webster:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/personality
PhilD

BeN wrote:
PhilD wrote:
BeN wrote:
I don't get why people keep harping on the 'personality' bit. In this case 'personality' simply means 'celebrity' or 'someone famous'. Not that they have actual personality.

See number 7:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/personality?s=t


maybe because if you have to seek recourse in the 7th possible meaning of a word in the dictionary you have a weak argument?


Cambridge:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/personality

Oxford:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/personality

Webster:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/personality


Your first link was nearer to the mark though. We use "personality" almost exclusively in relation to a person's character. Have a Google and see what comes up, how many results can you see which relate to a famous person (and are not SPOTY related)?
Martin

I used to watch it, but haven't bothered for years. †It's just a popularity contest, we've know it has nothing to do with having a personality since Nigel Mansell won (twice?)!

It is a good indication of F1s popularity though, which is a good thing.
Giant

Martin wrote:
It is a good indication of F1s popularity though.

Im not sure its a true indicator. People have very short memories, the F1 season decider was the most recent big sporting event. Had McIlroys majors come in the past fortnight he wouldve won
Nice Guy Eddie

Spot on choice as far as I'm concerned.  Lewis is the fastest driver out there currently,  something I'm rather happy about.
Chocy Rocky

Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
Spot on choice as far as I'm concerned. †Lewis is the fastest driver out there currently, †something I'm rather happy about.


True, he's the fastest....in a race with Rosberg in the same car.

Is he the best driver in the field. Not in my opinion.
Bob Sacamano

Louis won the popular vote and I get that, but I can also understand those that said Rory should have won. Both would be equally deserved.
Big Blue

If you need to know about SPOTY remember Ryan "shagger" Giggs beat Jenson to the title in 2009 on the public vote. Man Utd and Wales still more popular than F1. .
PhilD

A tweet I saw:

"Maybe Lewis Hamilton's #SPOTY win will prompt increased investment in the sport. Many schools' F1 tracks are in a sorry state of disrepair"

Big Blue

Genuine lol at that tweet.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Giant wrote:
People have very short memories, the F1 season decider was the most recent big sporting event. Had McIlroy's majors come in the past fortnight he would've won

This.
Sav

I was pleasantly surprised that Hamilton won the award. It appeared that McIlroy was the favourite, but in the end it wasnít particularly close with Lewis commanding 34 % of the vote.

For me this isnít about ďpersonalityĒ, this was a victory for motor racing and in my subjective world, it is the only thing that matters. I was frustrated when Hamilton didnít win in 2007, 2008 or when Button didnít win in 2009.

It could be argued that champions from other national motorsport seriesí are equally deserving of the award. But In reality that wonít happen given what a niche those series are, so all things considered, a form of motor racing getting national credit is just fantastic. Motor racing deserves more national recognition considering the technology that is developed here and the teams who decide to locate here.

I think Hamilton deserves the award on merit as well. He won 11 Grands Prix, displayed fantastic wheel-to-wheel combat against Rosberg throughout the year, and came from the back to finish third on the second most difficult track to overtake on (ahead of Rosberg who started on pole).

He made a few errors here and there, most notably locking the rears and spinning off in Austria qualification and during the race at Interlagos, and he occasionally missed pole position by not putting the optimum lap together in Q3. However in general, he had superb year and I hope that the extra media attention on F1 can help the fortunes of domestic motor racing as well.

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