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Frank Bullitt

Mitsubishi Minge

Took the Picasso in for a seat base replacement today (2nd time in 2 years, citroen contributing the part and I am playing the labour, it's a known issue thy cover up to 5 years and 60k, ours is young enough but has 63k on the clock) and courtesy car roulette takes on a more critical tone on account of being a combined Citroen and Mitsubishi dealership; 'is it a Mitsubishi' I asked 'yes, I think it is' the guy responded when we were doing the paperwork. Assuming they don't loan out evo's I was relieved when he walked towards an ASX (it's all relative) but then when I saw he was walking to the car behind it my heart sank as all I could see was a tinge of colour;



As he got out I suspect the words had been used on a daily basis 'you'll probably like it by the time you bring it back'

'Don't bet on it' was the best enthusiasm I could muster. Thankfully it has a dealer decal on;



Mitsubishi have replaced the charming (pre-facelift at least) Colt, a car I quite like, with the Mirage. Once I'd picked myself up from a self-pitying 20 minute blubbering session it was time to have a look around inside. Crap plastic wheel, gear knob and dashboard do not make a pleasent welcome; the driving position is ok, the wheel is rake only and the seat tilts rather than adjusts but we got there on the end; odd spec too - electric windows all around, privacy glass (sadly not extending to a Niqab for the driver), auto lights and wipers but plastic wheel trims and no trip computer. On the hour it took me to get to work my lower back started to grumble, there's a notable lack of support. The interior is an odd combination of a smattering of design with an overwhelming feeling of crap;



So how does it drive? The good news is the 3-pot engine is game in a way that I enjoy; it pulls well, is very smooth and doesn't seem to have any foibles; it's surprisingly quiet at typical uk cruising speed although pulling into traffic requires some planning and, due to the gearing, a lower gear than you'd otherwise imagine - it pulls about 24mph per 1000rpm on top so the gears are widely spaced; the engine has some torque though so it's not as bad as that sounds; no idea how big it is (I've yet to immerse myself in the brochure...) but I'd guess its a 1200cc - sadly, the gear lever is connected to the slick gearbox in the loosest sense of the term and I have no sense where neutral most of the time as it lacks any positivity. There's an Eco- monitor which gives you 1-3 lights or an orange one (there may be two more of those that I have yet to discover) which seams to be an idiots instantaneous mpg read-out; it dominates the display and pisses me off - there is the smallest up shift arrow known to man and no trip meter.

Dynamically, the steering is woeful; there's a good 10 degrees either side of centre that do nothing, it feels not dissimilar to my friends VW Type 2, and that's not a compliment; it is continually wandering off-line not helped by steering wheel that's on the piss - there was only 450 miles on the clock so it can't be shagged already...can it. There's no grip at the front with alarming understeer but that's not a surprise as the tidly wheels have high profile tyres which, like a tractor, seem to solve most of the primary ride out so it's fine on most surfaces but it's challenged by anything that requires damping or control.

Overall I'd consider it a horrible little car. No idea what they retail for but it's too much for yesterday's product - if this was a face lifted mid 90's Colt it would be ok but this is a product being sold in 2013 - nobody needs a new car this much. The engine can't save it, this is one Minge I'd not want to spend any time with which is a pisser as I have to drive it back tonight - it won't even be dark...
Tim

The existence of these had passed me by until very recently.
I don't think Mitsubishi's sales targets for them are very high at all.
Frank Bullitt

I've just checked - it is a 1.2 and they want 10,999 for one.

Ha ha.
Giant

I've seen a few of these around and assumed they are Mitsubishis equivalent to the latest Micra, engineered for India/Brazil etc, put on sale here to pick up a few extra sales but not a key market.
Humphrey The Pug

Tim wrote:
The existence of these had passed me by until very recently.
I don't think Mitsubishi's sales targets for them are very high at all.


I don't think Mitsubishi's total sales targets for all of their models in the UK are being too high.

It's a wonder they are still in the UK.
Tim

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Tim wrote:
The existence of these had passed me by until very recently.
I don't think Mitsubishi's sales targets for them are very high at all.


I don't think Mitsubishi's total sales targets for all of their models in the UK are being too high.

It's a wonder they are still in the UK.


They're doing about 20,000 - 10 times more than Subaru
Chocy Rocky

Tim wrote:
Humphrey The Pug wrote:
Tim wrote:
The existence of these had passed me by until very recently.
I don't think Mitsubishi's sales targets for them are very high at all.


I don't think Mitsubishi's total sales targets for all of their models in the UK are being too high.

It's a wonder they are still in the UK.


They're doing about 20,000 - 10 times more than Subaru


That's a lot of L200s.
PG

Chocy Rocky wrote:
That's a lot of L200s.


Add in some Shoguns and a few ASX's and that's the truth.
Humphrey The Pug

That many, I'm surprised!
Giant

PG wrote:
Chocy Rocky wrote:
That's a lot of L200s.


Add in some Shoguns and a few ASX's and that's the truth.


Do Shoguns still exist?!
Roadrunner

Almost every Mistsushiti I have ever driven has been crap, so this comes as no surprise.
BeN

It's a shame they've fallen to this level. They used to be half decent not too long ago.
Frank Bullitt

Drove it back, my word it's grim. Good news? It'll so 65 in second - bad news? There's some driveline shunt in traffic that I didn't get to experience in the morning.

My friend spotted me out in it - oh dear
Tim

Giant wrote:
PG wrote:
Chocy Rocky wrote:
That's a lot of L200s.


Add in some Shoguns and a few ASX's and that's the truth.


Do Shoguns still exist?!


They certainly do.

The expected sales split is :-
L200 - 40%
Outlander - 20%
ASX - 20%
Mirage - 12%
Shogun - 8%
PhilD

Re: Mitsubishi Minge

[quote="Frank Bullitt:471000"] I was relieved when he walked towards an ASX (it's all relative) [quote]

I quite like the ASX, looks wise.
Roadsterstu

Re: Mitsubishi Minge

[quote="PhilD:471154"][quote="Frank Bullitt:471000"] I was relieved when he walked towards an ASX (it's all relative)
Quote:


I quite like the ASX, looks wise.


Then you will love the Mirage. Ideal Grande Punto replacement, especially in that green colour...
Frank Bullitt

Service day for the DS4 so I already knew what to expect and have been digging deep in the enthusiasm bucket - yes, it's another one. Good bits are it seems incredibly economical at 70mph suggesting 62mpg, even if that's 10% over, mid 50's at 70mph is pretty good. It cruises quite well bit the suspension is very loud so when the surface breaks up your senses get battered. Engine is decent at 70mph though and you can rev the tits off it.

A small tripple is a good thing as far as I'm concerned but not in this crap package. At least it's grey this time so less obvious but no dealer markers so people might think it's mine. Eugh.
Tim

I drove one last week, fortunately only for 3 or 4 miles.
It's pretty inoffensive and doesn't seem any worse than, for example, the Skoda Citigo. In fact the Mitsubishi has a nicer engine (the Skoda was a 3 pot also) with much less flywheel effect and a distinct lack of 'not quite right vacuum cleaner' on the overrun that the Skoda has.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Tim wrote:


The expected sales split is :-
L200 - 40
Outlander - 20
ASX - 20
Mirage - 12
Shogun - 8

FYP
Tim



You've missed out the 40 Evo FQ440s they announced were coming to the UK.
Frank Bullitt

DS4 has had a new bonnet under warranty so it's been three days in one of these - FB Junior and I referred to it as a 'Bucket of Rubbish' although out of his earshot I'd go for 'Bucket of Shit'.

Anyway, still a pile of crap and this one was lacking in economy, relatively, achieving an average of 42mpg when its predecessors got 50+ It handles like a pissed-up supertanker and is just horrible.

Did I mention it was crap?
PG

Time has not been kind to them then?
Martin

Why does the DS4 bonnet need replacing?

If the dealer had any sense, they would have put you in a DS5 and got the paperwork ready!
Frank Bullitt

You're right, I might have been tempted to sign for a Berlingo given three days in the Minge!

It's a known fault that Citroen remedy without any issue - corrosion forms under the seam at the front leading edge of the bonnet, it affects DS4's and C4's, what's slightly annoying is the first C4 suffered from exactly the same issue.

Still, it has removed all the stone chips.

PG wrote:
Time has not been kind to them then?


That's one way of putting it - I just question the sanity of anyone that drives one of those by choice.
Big Blue

Frank Bullitt wrote:


It's a known fault that Citroen remedy without any issue - corrosion forms under the seam at the front leading edge of the bonnet, it affects DS4's and C4's, what's slightly annoying is the first C4 suffered from exactly the same issue.

Still, it has removed all the stone chips.


I'll look out for that in the summer on Ma's car, but not sure how much corrosion a car living in the Var will ever expect.
Frank Bullitt

It's not as a result of external effects, it's a poor seal that seems to somehow have air trapped behind it during manufacture; just open the bonnet and have a look at where the outside 'sheet' rolls over the front and then lips against the inside sheet (the best description I can come up with) you might find evidence of bubbling but the paint won't be broken.

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