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Frank Bullitt

Mitsubishi ASX SUV 2WD ASX ZC-M 1.6 Diesel Manual

They've been taking lessons from Audi on he names.

Mrs FB took the DS4 in for a service last night, no courtesy Minge's had been returned so she was sent out in the ASX demo, the reason for dropping the car off last night is that twice in the past 6 weeks it's cold-started like a bag of bolts and sounds like it is firing on 2 or 3 cylinders for a couple of seconds and is reluctant to rev, then after a little longer it's all hunky dory.

She came home last night and declared that her and FB Junior thought it was superb, she commented the interior was cheap but otherwise she liked everything else. Uh Oh.

I took it today to decide just what it was like.

In typical Japanse style the driving position is very good, with a decent relationship between the wheel and seat and plenty of adjustment - the driving position is not unlike the Picasso although with a bonnet that stretches out in front of you. Despite the diminutive length (it's Focus size) it easily passed the 'me behind me' test - crikey she might be on to something... Thankfully as you focus on the interior it doesn't take long to realise like the Minge, the plastics are awful - texture and look letting the interior down with a poor quality of display - there's nothing truly wrong with it but very little wrong.

Goodies wise the spec is good, keyless entry and go (shit old-skool key though), climate, heated seats, folding mirrors, cruise, DAB etc, the only thing it missed was sat nav. It took me a whole to work out how to put the climate in 'auto' due to poor intuition on the controls and I still never did find radio 4, the stereo being well integrated generally but lacking in and intelligent design. The cruise also has some strange configuration to it.

On the move it took a while to realise that it is indeed the same engine as the DS4 (Citroen sell the ASX with a different front and back plus trim as the C4 Cross in LHD countries), shorter gearing (30mph/1000rpm in top rather than 35mph/1000rpm in top) meant it unjustly felt more urgent but this was clearly to give it decent speed on open roads, sadly it meant that an engine that is silent and punchy in the DS4 feels a little strained and noisy in the ASX, economy suffers too as it got 45mpg in my hands on a trip that would get 53mpg in the DS4 - Dumbo's ears foor door mirrors don't help.

To drive? The steering is okay with reasonable feel, decent grip at the front end but poor body control when pushed even moderately hard, the torsional rigidity was poor and this impacted on the ride which was both noisy and badly damped although on the motorway it was smooth enough.

These things retail for £17k on broadspeed, not that bad considering the space and spec but not really for me. Mrs FB reckons the high driving position was fantastic and misses the Picasso - I can see the next car being some sort of cross over at this rate. I can't add pictures as the forum software seems to be having a hissy, will have a go later.

The DS4? There is a Technical Service Bulletin covering our problem that requires an ECU Update, hopefully that is job done.
DetmoldDick

I had a test drive of one of these a couple of years ago. It was OK in almost every respect but I just could not get on with the drivers seat. The cushion has a split in the center and it was exactly where my legs join my arse. It was really annoying and after only 20 mins I took it back.
A small detail that ended up a deal breaker. I bought the Civic off their used car lot instead.
Bob Sacamano

Neighbour had one of these for a few months but binned it due to frequent breakdowns. They look OK though - I'm assuming these are the ones where you get a free wheeled canoe to ride through the city when it's in for warranty work?
Chris M Wanted a V-10

I drove a hire one of these from Aberdeen to John O'Groats and back.... amazingly 4 years ago !  Where has the time gone?
http://themotor.myfastforum.org/about17974.html

Seems that Mitsubishi haven't made many improvements over the past 4 years and I suppose that also means that the ASX must be due for replacement soon
gonnabuildabuggy

High driving position is the thing women like isn't it.

That said, having been in a Q7 up to the lakes and back I can see the attraction.

The FRV replacement will need to be some form of SUV/Crossover though darned it I know what it will be.
Martin

Does your wife's desire for something taller mess up your DS5 plans?

Lindsay isn't particularly tall, so I'd better keep her out of anything high up in case she likes it, although I don't think she'd like the way they drive.  Hopefully.
gonnabuildabuggy

Martin wrote:
Does your wife's desire for something taller mess up your DS5 plans?

Lindsay isn't particularly tall, so I'd better keep her out of anything high up in case she likes it, although I don't think she'd like the way they drive. †Hopefully.


DS5 is relatively higher up I think? I was suprised by how tall the 5GT was when I compared to a Qashqai.
Michael

The 5GT is surprisingly tall. It also hasn't improved, visually speaking, with age. I think the DS5 is actually quite low but I'm assuming that from memory, it might be clever styling.
Frank Bullitt

Martin wrote:
Does your wife's desire for something taller mess up your DS5 plans?


Potentially it does - she was all for a DS5 but this Mitsushiti has reminded how much she liked the Picasso driving position and like GBB I do understand that even if I tend to look past this specific benefit at the bits I don't like. However, most crossovers don't have that much appeal to look at (neither of us like the Qashqai especially or the kadjar, Tiguan's did not appeal and so on) which actually leaves a field of one - Mazda CX-5 which I need to drive really.  The problem is that she really (really) likes the look of them and I think the driving position will have her sold with very little for me to argue against as I'm expecting to quite like it too.

Problem is, I want a DS5 - they are reasonably tall but not as much as a crossover; Duxford CitroŽn don't have one nor does a dealer closer to us.

It pains me to say it but I will probably end up with the option of a DS5 or keeping the A2 whilst Mrs FB gets something Juke size. Doesn't sound like a plan to me.
Roadrunner

Frank Bullitt wrote:
Martin wrote:
Does your wife's desire for something taller mess up your DS5 plans?


Potentially it does - she was all for a DS5 but this Mitsushiti has reminded how much she liked the Picasso driving position and like GBB I do understand that even if I tend to look past this specific benefit at the bits I don't like. However, most crossovers don't have that much appeal to look at (neither of us like the Qashqai especially or the kadjar, Tiguan's did not appeal and so on) which actually leaves a field of one - Mazda CX-5 which I need to drive really. †The problem is that she really (really) likes the look of them and I think the driving position will have her sold with very little for me to argue against as I'm expecting to quite like it too.

Problem is, I want a DS5 - they are reasonably tall but not as much as a crossover; Duxford CitroŽn don't have one nor does a dealer closer to us.

It pains me to say it but I will probably end up with the option of a DS5 or keeping the A2 whilst Mrs FB gets something Juke size. Doesn't sound like a plan to me.


I like the look of the new Mazda CX-3.
Bob Sacamano

A friend of mine has just bought a lightly-used 5GT - at huge discount compared to new and I went along for collection. During the test drive I commented that there was plenty of room for me in the back, to which the BMW salesman said "Yes, they make fantastic taxis!". The look on my mate's face was priceless.. It's not helped by the fact that every time I ring him up now I always open with "Hello, I'd like a taxi please".

The higher driving position is a winner with the ladiez - I was talking with the missus the other day about potential future cars; maybe another TT, maybe a cabrio of some sort but she said she loved the higher driving position of the Qashqai so would be loathe to change.
JohnC

Michael wrote:
The 5GT is surprisingly tall. It also hasn't improved, visually speaking, with age. I think the DS5 is actually quite low but I'm assuming that from memory, it might be clever styling.


A Mini Countryman pulled up alongside me the other day and the top of the front wings were virtually at my eye level and I had to look up to see the driver. It's a Mini!
PhilD

Roadrunner wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
Martin wrote:
Does your wife's desire for something taller mess up your DS5 plans?


Potentially it does - she was all for a DS5 but this Mitsushiti has reminded how much she liked the Picasso driving position and like GBB I do understand that even if I tend to look past this specific benefit at the bits I don't like. However, most crossovers don't have that much appeal to look at (neither of us like the Qashqai especially or the kadjar, Tiguan's did not appeal and so on) which actually leaves a field of one - Mazda CX-5 which I need to drive really. †The problem is that she really (really) likes the look of them and I think the driving position will have her sold with very little for me to argue against as I'm expecting to quite like it too.

Problem is, I want a DS5 - they are reasonably tall but not as much as a crossover; Duxford CitroŽn don't have one nor does a dealer closer to us.

It pains me to say it but I will probably end up with the option of a DS5 or keeping the A2 whilst Mrs FB gets something Juke size. Doesn't sound like a plan to me.


I like the look of the new Mazda CX-3.


the CX-3 looks absolutely bloody brilliant.
gonnabuildabuggy

Bob Sacamano wrote:
The higher driving position is a winner with the ladiez - I was talking with the missus the other day about potential future cars; maybe another TT, maybe a cabrio of some sort but she said she loved the higher driving position of the Qashqai so would be loathe to change.


My problem entirely.

So we need some form of crossover I'd be happy driving and a sports coupe/hatch that she'd be happy driving.

I can see the FRV /Mini combination carrying on for a while.

Or just get a Mustang..
Roadrunner

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
The higher driving position is a winner with the ladiez - I was talking with the missus the other day about potential future cars; maybe another TT, maybe a cabrio of some sort but she said she loved the higher driving position of the Qashqai so would be loathe to change.


My problem entirely.

So we need some form of crossover I'd be happy driving and a sports coupe/hatch that she'd be happy driving.

I can see the FRV /Mini combination carrying on for a while.

Or just get a Mustang..


Get a Mustang and sit Herself up on a pile of cushions. Sorted.  
Tim

I hadn't been aware of these ASX things until the garage I worked at became a Mitsi dealer.
They sold pretty well actually, I was surprised.
Frank Bullitt

PhilD wrote:
Roadrunner wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
...Mazda CX-5...


I like the look of the new Mazda CX-3.


the CX-3 looks absolutely bloody brilliant.


Agreed but they are way too small, they are slightly bigger than a Juke
PhilD

Frank Bullitt wrote:
PhilD wrote:
Roadrunner wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
...Mazda CX-5...


I like the look of the new Mazda CX-3.


the CX-3 looks absolutely bloody brilliant.


Agreed but they are way too small, they are slightly bigger than a Juke


but if you go with the Juke sized option for Mrs FB?
Giant

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
The higher driving position is a winner with the ladiez - I was talking with the missus the other day about potential future cars; maybe another TT, maybe a cabrio of some sort but she said she loved the higher driving position of the Qashqai so would be loathe to change.


My problem entirely.

So we need some form of crossover I'd be happy driving and a sports coupe/hatch that she'd be happy driving..


It's not hard to see why Evoques are so popular and why the convertible could also be a hit..
Frank Bullitt

PhilD wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
PhilD wrote:
Roadrunner wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
...Mazda CX-5...


I like the look of the new Mazda CX-3.


the CX-3 looks absolutely bloody brilliant.


Agreed but they are way too small, they are slightly bigger than a Juke


but if you go with the Juke sized option for Mrs FB?


Can I then justify the A2 though...
Martin

Surely the A2 is well past needing any sort of justification?
Frank Bullitt

You're probably right!
Giant

I saw what is presumably the Peugeot version of the ASX this morning, on French plates. Looked pretty tidy, far better than the ASX. I thought the badge said 4008, but that doesn't make sense size wise.
Frank Bullitt

That's the one - 3008 is already taken as is 5008; the Peugeot and CitroŽn versions look very tidy
Giant

Wasn't 4008 already taken too? What was the name of the larger rebadged mitsubishi, sister to the C Crosser?
The ASX/4008 looks smaller tha the 3008?
Frank Bullitt

That was the 4007 - based on the Mitsubishi Outlander (or Shogun Sport) from memory. I had the misfortune to passenger in a CitroŽn C-Crosser (same thing) and it was bloody awful.

Size wise the 4008 is an oddity but I guess they decided 30008 wasn't cricket!

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