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franki68

Mercedes c250cdi coupe

Courtesy car whilst Aston was serviced.

Err,drives like all these sorts of cars drive now,comfortable,auto ,electric steering.thought the interior was a bit shit in places ,but love d the seats,deep bolsters.
Merc auto is so outclassed by the equivalent merc/BMW/jag boxes now.

Funny looking cars the c class coupe,they don't gel with me ,wheels look too small ,even in the amg versions.

Summary,dull and comfortable.
Big Blue

I agree. Cars have reached some kind of homogeneity, rather like all pupils in a class gravitating to the same level, which might not necessarily be the highest!
JohnC

Big Blue wrote:
I agree. Cars have reached some kind of homogeneity, rather like all pupils in a class gravitating to the same level, which might not necessarily be the highest!


I think the "might not necessarily" should be WILL NOT - give me a Grammar School any day.

I agree on the anonymity and similarity of modern cars - probably because all cars are getting better there is less difference between the premium and lesser brands. All cars are now more focused on mpg rather than mph which probably leads to many of the similarities. My F in L has a C250CDi which is reasonably quick, very economical and a comfortable place to be, but it never excites.
PhilD

Mercedes c250cdi coupe in comfy but not exciting Shocker. Blimey, anyone see that coming?  
Alf McQueef

I quite like the outgoing C class coupe - it's a total steal on some of the deals available. Shame the only petrol with more than 4 cylinders is the AMG!

I always liked the E class coupe (usefully smaller and prettier than the full E) and post-facelift I really like it a lot. It's a shame all the reviews seem in the same "comfy but not exciting" bracket, and that Mercedes continue to make their own inferior gearboxes rather than buy ZF like Jag and BMW. How Audi autos compare I don't know... Do they even have a slushbox auto or are they all DSG?
Sav

Alf McQueef wrote:
I quite like the outgoing C class coupe - it's a total steal on some of the deals available. Shame the only petrol with more than 4 cylinders is the AMG!



There was the C350 CGI with a 3.5 litre V6, although it is very rare - seemingly even rarer than 3 and 4-Series 35i BMW's.
Alf McQueef

When I was looking at lease prices there were no C Class of any shape with a 6 cylinder petrol - they may have had it on the spec list but it seemed to have effectively been dropped from the UK market. I don't know if I have ever seen a post-facelift C350 petrol actuallly. A shame as I would have considered one for sure at the right (run-out bargain) price.

Luckily there is quite an overlap between the sort of person that wants BMW handling and petrol 6's so they seem to sell plenty of "35i" models and I would guess just more petrols full stop than someone like Merc.
franki68

Alf McQueef wrote:
I quite like the outgoing C class coupe - it's a total steal on some of the deals available. Shame the only petrol with more than 4 cylinders is the AMG!

I always liked the E class coupe (usefully smaller and prettier than the full E) and post-facelift I really like it a lot. It's a shame all the reviews seem in the same "comfy but not exciting" bracket, and that Mercedes continue to make their own inferior gearboxes rather than buy ZF like Jag and BMW. How Audi autos compare I don't know... Do they even have a slushbox auto or are they all DSG?


I think,audi use the 8 speed zf box that gets so much praise.Certainly the rs6 did and the engine gearbox combo on that is magnificent for an auto..
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

Audi are quite confusing - you can end up with the ZF "eight", DSG or (God forbid!) CVT, and the name doesn't always make it clear which.
Michael

Alf McQueef wrote:

Luckily there is quite an overlap between the sort of person that wants BMW handling and petrol 6's so they seem to sell plenty of "35i" models and I would guess just more petrols full stop than someone like Merc.


That doesn't seem to be the case any longer. If you look at new shape 3 series (estate in particular) the availability of diesel to petrol sixes is about 30:1.
franki68

Michael wrote:
Alf McQueef wrote:

Luckily there is quite an overlap between the sort of person that wants BMW handling and petrol 6's so they seem to sell plenty of "35i" models and I would guess just more petrols full stop than someone like Merc.


That doesn't seem to be the case any longer. If you look at new shape 3 series (estate in particular) the availability of diesel to petrol sixes is about 30:1.


when the previous generation m3 came out (so how many years back was that ?),the sales director at williamsmanchester told me they were selling virtually no petrol cars
Frank Bullitt

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Audi are quite confusing - you can end up with the ZF "eight", DSG or (God forbid!) CVT, and the name doesn't always make it clear which.


It used to be reasonably simple as 2wd were CVT 'multitronic', 4wd traditional slushers but as they ever-increasingly get the DSG to handle more and more torque they are becoming more prevelant; as a rule of thumb if it's a 1 or 3 then DSG then after that it's all a game as various A4, 5, 6 and 7 models have had multitronic replaced by DSG incrementally, then towards the A8 it's multitronic or slusher (they probably do a DSG now to prove me wrong).

Sorry, by DSG I mean S-Tronic because DSG is for poor people.
Alf McQueef

Michael wrote:
Alf McQueef wrote:

Luckily there is quite an overlap between the sort of person that wants BMW handling and petrol 6's so they seem to sell plenty of "35i" models and I would guess just more petrols full stop than someone like Merc.


That doesn't seem to be the case any longer. If you look at new shape 3 series (estate in particular) the availability of diesel to petrol sixes is about 30:1.


Maybe I'll just spec a new 335i Touring (or 4 GT) exactly how I want it, or find a nearly new one, and keep it for ever! If I kept one for 5/6 years or more that would certainly make the financials seem a lot more sensible that just getting raped on the initial depreciation. I have no concerns about high mileage on a car run just by me, cosmetically it will be mint however long I keep it and with lots of long runs it will drive fine too.

For now though the current one is still doing too good a job to get rid of it!
Stuntman

^^^ Yes. If you do it, I doubt you'll regret it.

My two steeds are now >8 years old and >5 years old respectively and I think they still drive very well indeed. In fact, the M3 has definitely got better with age.
JohnC

Alf McQueef wrote:
Michael wrote:
Alf McQueef wrote:

Luckily there is quite an overlap between the sort of person that wants BMW handling and petrol 6's so they seem to sell plenty of "35i" models and I would guess just more petrols full stop than someone like Merc.


That doesn't seem to be the case any longer. If you look at new shape 3 series (estate in particular) the availability of diesel to petrol sixes is about 30:1.


Maybe I'll just spec a new 335i Touring (or 4 GT) exactly how I want it, or find a nearly new one, and keep it for ever! If I kept one for 5/6 years or more that would certainly make the financials seem a lot more sensible that just getting raped on the initial depreciation. I have no concerns about high mileage on a car run just by me, cosmetically it will be mint however long I keep it and with lots of long runs it will drive fine too.

For now though the current one is still doing too good a job to get rid of it!


A new 335i touring can be had for under 30K for standard to 33K for MSport Auto with Prof Nav on Drivethedeal at the moment - nearly 25% discount and 4.9% apr finance from BMW. That's a good bit cheaper than the used cars. Even with adaptive suspension, heated seats and a few other FG's it would be less than 35K for the MSport Auto with Prof Nav.
PG

Big Blue wrote:
I agree. Cars have reached some kind of homogeneity, rather like all pupils in a class gravitating to the same level, which might not necessarily be the highest!


Sad but increasingly true.

6 and 8 cylinder engines (or quirky 4's like flat-4's) were there for a reason - choose from effortless power; noise; aura; comfort; "feel-good". Whilst a straight 4-cylinder can achieve the power bit, the rest are still really lacking. And probably always will be to anyone who has ever driven a multi-cylinder car.
Frank Bullitt

Yes, I've always found single cylinder motorcars a bit rough too!
PG

Where's the [face-plant] emoticon when you need it?
Alf McQueef

It's weird, I often want to use the expression "multi cylinder" to mean something with 5 or more - it seems to make sense to me, but on logic grounds I stop myself!

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