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Nelson

McLaren for people with luggage

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news...-show/2016-mclaren-570gt-revealed

Now, this is superb, my kind of supercar, one that's flipping quick, looks awesome, sounds awesome, has a badge that doesn't mark you out like a knob and now with added useability. Perfect.

Looks the bollocks too. I like that, I like that a lot

Good luck putting some luggage in a trying not to scratch the side panels with a zip or button or the like, I'm pretty sure McLaren will never make a hatchback but I like the side hinged window.
PhilD

Who needs that Scenic eh?!
JohnC

I certainly wouldn't say no but I bet the luggage will get well cooked on top of the engine - not somewhere to put your bag of frozen food after a trip to the supermarket.
Martin

Lovely.
ds240

Not sure why you'd buy the non hatchback version now?

This looks much much better in my opinion with some added practicality. Whilst also sounding a nicer car for real roads also.

Personally, I'd have launched this as the 570s and simply made an S spec and GT spec if they wanted to cater for different needs.

S spec could have had a traditional mid engine style with the cabin separated from an open engine bay with a lighter, vented rear hatch along with the firmer suspension settings. The GT would be what we see here.
Humphrey The Pug

I get confused with the McLarens; I see a fair few about but I never actually know which one they are as they all look too similar.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

It's not really a boot, just a shelf above the engine and below the rear window...... personally I'd have a Scenic instead
PhilD

JohnC wrote:
I certainly wouldn't say no but I bet the luggage will get well cooked on top of the engine - not somewhere to put your bag of frozen food after a trip to the supermarket.


but perfect for keeping your takeaway warm!
PhilD

double post
BeN

First of all, I can't believe a Ford Focus hatchback's boot is that small. I remember the previous one's cargo area was fairly massive.

Secondly, I agree with JohnC. It's not an ideal solution, unless there is excellent heat-proofing between storage area and engine.
PhilD

BeN wrote:
First of all, I can't believe a Ford Focus hatchback's boot is that small. I remember the previous one's cargo area was fairly massive.


Click on the helpful link then.
scamper

My house is next to their test track, so I take it this is their new car I see every day on my road,  very lightly disguised going from their HQ to testing. Should take some photos. It does sound quite muted even with two together , but then they seem to drive them like your gran
Frank Bullitt

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
I get confused with the McLarens; I see a fair few about but I never actually know which one they are as they all look too similar.


+1
Chris M Wanted a V-10

BeN wrote:
First of all, I can't believe a Ford Focus hatchback's boot is that small. I remember the previous one's cargo area was fairly massive.

I think if you re-read, it says that if you take the front boot into account as well as the rear "shelf", the Macca's boot is larger than that of a Focus
Racing Teatray

Re: McLaren for people with luggage

Nelson wrote:
...has a badge that doesn't mark you out like a knob ...


There are car badges that mark you out as a knob? Not sure I can think of a car badge which makes me automatically think the owner/driver is a knob.

I confess I find McLarens inexplicably "meh" for what they are.
Giant

I agree that this appears to make the original 570 redundant.

Why can't McLaren leave their cars alone, it seems every few weeks they've fiddled with something and claim it's a new model. This impression isn't helped by the fact that the entire range is virtually indistinguishable from each other.

I don't why it irks me when they do it but Porsche doing it generally passes me by without a comment.
Twelfth Monkey

This one is a  little heavier, but more practical and nicer inside.  Apparently it's what customers have been asking for.  They could be more externally-differentiated, but McLaren's doing things its own way and I think the policy of ongoing improvement (and updates, sometimes free, for existing customers) is spot-on.  Good luck to them.  Sounds like they've nailed the driving experience, and I think the latest ones look great (albeit rather too similar).  Just the sound to crack now.  Maybe they should steal Lamborghini's V10...
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Giant wrote:

Why can't McLaren leave their cars alone, it seems every few weeks they've fiddled with something.....

Formula 1 mentality.....
franki68

I've developed a bit of a weakness for mclarens,just a shame as 12th says they dont do a great engine.
Nelson

Re: McLaren for people with luggage

Racing Teatray wrote:
Nelson wrote:
...has a badge that doesn't mark you out like a knob ...


There are car badges that mark you out as a knob? Not sure I can think of a car badge which makes me automatically think the owner/driver is a knob.

I confess I find McLarens inexplicably "meh" for what they are.


Anything with a Mansory badge or similar and I reserve a particular hatred for any owner who bedecks their Ferrari with gold alloys.
(I think James May has, but I think he's a top bloke)

I did see an Urban design Range Rover Sport and thought that it didn't look too bad as individualism styling goes.
Twelfth Monkey

franki68 wrote:
I've developed a bit of a weakness for mclarens,just a shame as 12th says they dont do a great engine.


I suspect that they thought they did as I would think it exceeded all target parameters for power, torque, efficiency etc.  It's the less measurable stuff like sound that I think they didn't fully understand at first, and that's difficult to back-engineer.
PhilD

Giant wrote:


Why can't McLaren leave their cars alone


Damn this fledging car manufacturer for trying to improve their products and giving the customers what they want.

Nice Guy Eddie

Very nice but I'd still have the 570S. If you want a more luxury get a Bentley
Martin

PhilD wrote:
Giant wrote:


Why can't McLaren leave their cars alone


Damn this fledging car manufacturer for trying to improve their products and giving the customers what they want.



Exactly, they're pace of change / improvement is really impressive, but I'm not sure how I'd feel about it as an owner of an early car.
Twelfth Monkey

Given that there have been a lot of backdates available, many of them free, I think they're getting a better deal than would ordinarily be the case.
Andy C

That does look brilliant
BeN

PhilD wrote:
BeN wrote:
First of all, I can't believe a Ford Focus hatchback's boot is that small. I remember the previous one's cargo area was fairly massive.


Click on the helpful link then.


I did, and I saw. Which was why I said that.
BeN

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
BeN wrote:
First of all, I can't believe a Ford Focus hatchback's boot is that small. I remember the previous one's cargo area was fairly massive.

I think if you re-read, it says that if you take the front boot into account as well as the rear "shelf", the Macca's boot is larger than that of a Focus


Yes I know. What I'm saying is that 300+litres of boot space for a hatchback like the Focus is miniscule.
PhilD

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Given that there have been a lot of backdates available, many of them free, I think they're getting a better deal than would ordinarily be the case.


Indeed, and all this is relative as I'm sure the original car is awesome and now they have made it awesomer.
gooner

Chris M Wanted a V-10 wrote:
BeN wrote:
First of all, I can't believe a Ford Focus hatchback's boot is that small. I remember the previous one's cargo area was fairly massive.

I think if you re-read, it says that if you take the front boot into account as well as the rear "shelf", the Macca's boot is larger than that of a Focus


I still don't think it's going to be particularly useful for a trip to IKEA - might stop the wife buying so much furniture though!
scamper

Had a closer look at one of them today and looks like the new car - very compact looking I must say.
PG

I like that McLaren are producing some great cars, but like others I can't tell one model from another. The heathen that I am.

For this one, the more luxurious interior looks good (red dash notwithstanding), but I can't really see the rear "boot" being much use. Based on this photo, it seems that to get anything in or out you'll have to climb on the back of the car and have very long arms to reach in. Thus getting your designer clothes awfully dirty.

Or maybe owners will just get their man to get the luggage?



PhilD

PG wrote:
Based on this photo, it seems that to get anything in or out you'll have to climb on the back of the car and have very long arms to reach in.]


Or stand to the side?
Tim

PhilD wrote:
PG wrote:
Based on this photo, it seems that to get anything in or out you'll have to climb on the back of the car and have very long arms to reach in.]


Or stand to the side?


It's the same problem as separately opening tailgate windows on estate cars - if your only 5ft 7 you're going to get dirty or simply never use the feature.
PhilD

Tim wrote:
PhilD wrote:
PG wrote:
Based on this photo, it seems that to get anything in or out you'll have to climb on the back of the car and have very long arms to reach in.]


Or stand to the side?


It's the same problem as separately opening tailgate windows on estate cars - if your only 5ft 7 you're going to get dirty or simply never use the feature.


Only this is a shin high supercar!
Tim

Yes but my 320 estate isn't exactly high up but using the back window is pointless for me - the McLaren has a lot of bodywork to lean across.

However, in reality the McLaren is likely to be clean so leaning across won't be a total disaster whereas my 320 is, er, somewhat dirty so even being near it results in muck getting on your clothes  
PhilD

Tim wrote:
Yes but my 320 estate isn't exactly high up but using the back window is pointless for me - the McLaren has a lot of bodywork to lean across.


but not far to lean down,  so will be easy enough to grab your takeaway!

bit like this 911 at 3m19s

https://youtu.be/HLEFb3rGoKc
Tim

PhilD wrote:
Tim wrote:
Yes but my 320 estate isn't exactly high up but using the back window is pointless for me - the McLaren has a lot of bodywork to lean across.


but not far to lean down,  so will be easy enough to grab your takeaway!


Heathen!
Takeaways travel in the passenger area  
Martin

Not in my car they don't.
Giant

Love this colour combination:

JohnC

Don't think there are many colours a McLaren wouldn't look good in but I agree that is very nice. Blue is becoming a popular colour.
scamper



Are these the above?  Don't think they are, but nice still.
scamper

Twelfth Monkey

Now that is horrible

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