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Mater's New Wheels - UPDATE - Car Bought

My mother has decided that an E class estate is too big for her and fancies a change, so I have been tasked with helping to find a replacement. The new C-Class Coupe seems to be finding favour at the moment, but with excellent offers on ex-demo E-Class coupes, we shall look at those as well. She is not doing huge mileage now, so will probably change from her current 320 cdi to somethimg like a 200 petrol, which still puts out a healthy 184 bhp.

Likely candidates include

https://www.mercedes-benz.net/p/u.../415d7add37a76390d79c8ff8fa7a4a54

https://www.mercedes-benz.net/p/u.../2abe59adcdfcd43219c95fc4b445ccc8

https://www.mercedes-benz.net/p/u.../081f7d33cadc9b79457525d8d84ff7bd

...allthough might decide to save a bit of money and look at something like this

https://www.mercedes-benz.net/p/u.../f1cd96a2a6f23e20da5ac8f741aebf60

... or an alternative choice

https://www.mercedes-benz.net/p/u.../997465180884df20e3485e566d878577

Whatever is chosen, I shall enjoy my trip to our local Benz emporium.  
gooner

Both Coupes look good but the C is the current generation of Mercedes whereas the E coupes are the previous generation. Depends how much she values the latest technology but I'd be more tempted by the C coupe, it looks more luxurious inside too. Either way though it looks like you're in for a fun day out!
Roadrunner

gooner wrote:
Both Coupes look good but the C is the current generation of Mercedes whereas the E coupes are the previous generation. Depends how much she values the latest technology but I'd be more tempted by the C coupe, it looks more luxurious inside too. Either way though it looks like you're in for a fun day out!


I tend to agree, but the E is a higher model in the range and the 65 reg ex-demo is cheaper to buy than the equivalent age C. We shall look at both and go from there. A fun day is guaranteed!
Martin

Definately the C Coupe from the links jn your post, but will be interesting to hear what you think.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

See if you can "stealth" her into a C63
PhilD

The new C interior looks nicer/posher but you would expect the E to be made from better stuff.
Frank Bullitt

I like the E in the last link.
Roadsterstu

Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
See if you can "stealth" her into a C63


This, absolutely  
Roadrunner

Roadsterstu wrote:
Dr. Hfuhruhurr wrote:
See if you can "stealth" her into a C63


This, absolutely  


While that would be nice, it unfortunately is not going to happen. Probably best not to let a 75 year old out on the road with 550 bhp...

Bearing in mind this is going to last her into her 80s, current thinking is something more sensible, like a GLA, possibly in 250 AMG Line flavour. Off to the dealer later, so will sit in a few and go from there.
Martin

A friend of my mums decided to downsize and replaced her E Class Estate with a GLA.  She has swapped it for a GLC just over 6 months later, an expensive mistake.  The ride and gearbox drove her mad, she's much happier now.
Big Blue

Roadrunner wrote:


Bearing in mind this is going to last her into her 80s, current thinking is something more sensible, like a GLA, possibly in 250 AMG Line flavour. Off to the dealer later, so will sit in a few and go from there.


She needs a B or a jacked up GL* series car! The overriding factor in choosing a DS4 for my mum after a garage with a 3er and an SLK was access and egress for a septuagenarian. Basically she doesn't need to bend down or stretch up!
Bob Sacamano

Big Blue wrote:
Roadrunner wrote:


Bearing in mind this is going to last her into her 80s, current thinking is something more sensible, like a GLA, possibly in 250 AMG Line flavour. Off to the dealer later, so will sit in a few and go from there.


She needs a B or a jacked up GL* series car! The overriding factor in choosing a DS4 for my mum after a garage with a 3er and an SLK was access and egress for a septuagenarian. Basically she doesn't need to bend down or stretch up!


This is why my mum swopped from a MINI to a Countryman. She's 75 an loves it.
Racing Teatray

GLA.

Am I the only one who finds the new C-Class coupe rather weird-looking?? Like someone over-inflated a second-gen Audi TT and then gave it Merc styling cues.
Bob Sacamano

Racing Teatray wrote:
GLA.

Am I the only one who finds the new C-Class coupe rather weird-looking?? Like someone over-inflated a second-gen Audi TT and then gave it Merc styling cues.


One of our graduate engineers has a Merc CLS and it's been in and out of his local dealer for warranty work and they keep giving him a GLA as a courtesy car. When asked what he thought of it all we could get was a "bloody awful.."
Giant

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Racing Teatray wrote:
GLA.

Am I the only one who finds the new C-Class coupe rather weird-looking?? Like someone over-inflated a second-gen Audi TT and then gave it Merc styling cues.


One of our graduate engineers has a Merc CLS and it's been in and out of his local dealer for warranty work and they keep giving him a GLA as a courtesy car. When asked what he thought of it all we could get was a "bloody awful.."


Nice car for a graduate, got any vacancies?!  
Roadrunner

A longer post will follow, but the answer will almost certainly be CLA 250 AMG 4Matic.
PG

Roadrunner wrote:
A longer post will follow, but the answer will almost certainly be CLA 250 AMG 4Matic.


I guess if you're used to a big estate, and you want to downsize, the best thing to have is a smaller estate.

Am I allowed to call the CLA an estate by the way? Or is it a sports-something-or -other?
tali

Drove a C220cdi  Coupe and a E220Cdi  -the  C220cdi   felt , quicker, quieter and a far classier interior.
Roadrunner

PG wrote:
Roadrunner wrote:
A longer post will follow, but the answer will almost certainly be CLA 250 AMG 4Matic.


I guess if you're used to a big estate, and you want to downsize, the best thing to have is a smaller estate.

Am I allowed to call the CLA an estate by the way? Or is it a sports-something-or -other?


I think they call it a shooting brake.
PhilD

PG wrote:
Roadrunner wrote:
A longer post will follow, but the answer will almost certainly be CLA 250 AMG 4Matic.


I guess if you're used to a big estate, and you want to downsize, the best thing to have is a smaller estate.



there's smaller and then there's smallest. The CLA is a (front wheel drive) A-class no?
Roadrunner

PhilD wrote:
PG wrote:
Roadrunner wrote:
A longer post will follow, but the answer will almost certainly be CLA 250 AMG 4Matic.


I guess if you're used to a big estate, and you want to downsize, the best thing to have is a smaller estate.



there's smaller and then there's smallest. The CLA is a (front wheel drive) A-class no?


This one is the 4Matic four wheel drive version, but yes, it is based on the A class.
Roadrunner

This is the one we drove

https://www.mercedes-benz.inchcap...ss-20-4matic-amg-bu15ybh-2621801/

The 4 Matic works really well, enabling me to give it full welly out of a side turn without a hint of wheel spin or traction control intervention. The ride is firm-ish without being uncomfortable. Most importantly for my mother, it looks interesting and will stand out from the crowd. No decision yet, but looking like the favourite at the moment.

We looked at the black 63 reg E Class estate but didn't like it. The new shape  C Class was too expensive and the ordinary A class too boring. Although not on our agenda for the day, I thought it rude not to have a good look around the new E Class while in the showroom. The interior is every bit as good as it looks in the photos and I seriously want one.

On the way there we went to the local MINI showroom and looked at a Countryman and the new Clubman. The latest interiors are excellent and a step up from the previous generation in terms of quality. Still a possible alternative option to the Benz.
Racing Teatray

I did like the CLA45 shooting-brake when I drove it. Engine is disappointing sounding and it costs a small fortune, but the rest I liked a lot But I guess you resolve at least the second part by going for a non-AMG...
Roadrunner

Racing Teatray wrote:
I did like the CLA45 shooting-brake when I drove it. Engine is disappointing sounding and it costs a small fortune, but the rest I liked a lot But I guess you resolve at least the second part by going for a non-AMG...


The advantage of the one we looked at was that it is the AMG -lite version, with all the looks, the 4 Matic driveline and still very decent performance (210 bhp) but without the extreme 45 version price tag. Probably the best all-round real world option.
gooner

Looks very nice both inside and out. I'm still not totally sold on the screen being perched on top of the console instead of being properly integrated, but otherwise that is a very desirable looking car and certainly does look different. And you're right that in the real world that's probably going to be ample performance for most people.
Martin

I'm not a fan of the CLA (or the red exterior trim), but they're nice inside.  Are you looking at that particular car or a new one?
Roadrunner

That particular car. List price to that spec new is around £38,000 which is crazy money.

The dash top screen looks much better integrated from the driver's seat than it does in the photos and the COMAND system is easy to use.
PhilD

Are they cloth seats or a very soft leather?
gonnabuildabuggy

I'd be thinking forwards and getting something with a higher seating position as both my in-laws (not car people) and my Dad (real petrolhead) are in their mid 70's and suddenly found getting in and out of normal saloons more of a struggle. My Dad has an E93 nowadays but bought an A Class (prev model) just for running about in locally.
Martin

Roadrunner wrote:
That particular car. List price to that spec new is around £38,000 which is crazy money..


I agree.  You'd get £5-6k off list, but it's still an awful lot for a small car.

PhilD wrote:
Are they cloth seats or a very soft leather?


I think they have vinyl (sorry....Artico) and microfibre seats as standard, like the old E Class in Sport trim.
Roadrunner

It is Artico (I think) with Alcantara type centres. Very comfortable, too.
Roadrunner

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
I'd be thinking forwards and getting something with a higher seating position as both my in-laws (not car people) and my Dad (real petrolhead) are in their mid 70's and suddenly found getting in and out of normal saloons more of a struggle. My Dad has an E93 nowadays but bought an A Class (prev model) just for running about in locally.


My mother is quite unlike the majority of 75 year olds, working out in the gym and doing Pilates several times a week. Getting in and out has been considered and this has ruled out realy low sports convertible models, but the CLA was fine. if in a few years time there is a big changer in her mobility, then we might have to think again. Could be that we have a ready-made replacement for our MINI...
Bob Sacamano

Can't get my head around vinyl/plastic seats in a Mercedes. It just seems they can't miss any opportunity to cut costs.
Martin

It's not as bad as you'd think, better than what some manufacturers call leather and it should last long as it's what's fitted to their Taxi models, but I would upgrade to leather.  The part that looks like Alcantara is actually Microfibre cloth.
Bob Sacamano

Martin wrote:
It's not as bad as you'd think, better than what some manufacturers call leather and it should last long as it's what's fitted to their Taxi models, but I would upgrade to leather.  The part that looks like Alcantara is actually Microfibre cloth.


Bloody hell, it gets worse! they're flogging taxi spec cars at top dollar with a copy of an artificial material as well.  
PhilD

Roadrunner wrote:

My mother is quite unlike the majority of people, working out in the gym and doing Pilates several times a week.


FYP  
Bob Sacamano

I remember my mother telling me, quite seriously, she'd joined a pirates' class and then looking at me blankly when I grunted "Oooh aaarrgh?"

Continuing the theme I then asked if she required any special equipment and she said just a roll up mat. "Not a plank then?", I replied. She still wasn't getting it. "Will you be getting a parrot?" I continued. At that point the penny dropped much to my disappointment as I still had loads of material left.

After that, everytime I saw her and she said she was off to pilates I would always remind her to take her doubloons for her subs.

The winter evenings fly past in the North East, I tell you.
Roadrunner

After some deliberation mum has decided against the CLA. Too much like a coal hole inside, with a black headlining and no sunroof and I certainly see where she is coming from with that. She is looking at a C Class, probably a new MIMI Clubman and possibly a BMW 4GC.. It would mean having a diesel, but probably not a bad thing with a BMW and I have found one with a sunroof, professional nav, voodoo lights and a rather striking red interior.
Bryan M

The 4GC is a very nice motor, SE is well equipped just make sure you get electric seats and manual adjustment is rubbish
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Bob Sacamano wrote:
..... remind her to take her doubloons for her subs.


Pirates sneaking up on their victims in submarines is a bit unfair IMHO; doesn't give you much time to air your Jolly Roger after you break the surface.....
PhilD

Roadrunner wrote:
She is looking at MIMI Clubman


I remember her. Great fun but quite high maintenance.

I know what you mean about coal holes. Modern cars with double sunroofs or full length glass roofs are so appealing. BMW red leather is also rather lovely!
Frank Bullitt

I had a nosy around the Clubman at the weekend and there was lots to like about it, the one in the showroom was a Cooper SD in a horrendous sort of metallic but not really grey colour that did it no favours but the interior was a sort of wool and faux leather which really was superb. I was mightily impressed with the interior space but the boot was tiny, even with the false floor dropped down - I can see the appeal.  I then had a look around the 5dr which seems to have less rear room, an even smaller boot and looks even it's mother would cringe at.  I think I'm getting old though as both of them struck me as a nice trinket for young people but not grown up.
Big Blue

I had the utter misfortune to see a new Clubman in Wandsworth this morning. Mini-sick came up. They are munters.
Tim

Are they the estate ones with the odd rear lights?
Ugly.
PhilD

Frank Bullitt wrote:
I had a nosy around the Clubman at the weekend and there was lots to like about it -  I can see the appeal.  I then had a look around the 5dr which seems to have less rear room, an even smaller boot and looks even it's mother would cringe at.


There are now three 5 doors on my street and they are kind of growing on me (yes, yes, like a wart...). These are big wheeled Coopers where as those on shirt buttons are horrible blobby things and the front of the S is fairly grim.

The Clubman is a much more balanced shape and I'm even coming round to the lights, though I'd prefer vertical ones as per the previous model.
Giant

Big Blue wrote:
I had the utter misfortune to see a new Clubman in Wandsworth this morning. Mini-sick came up. They are munters.


I agree, however, they are now also the 'looker' of the MINI range, so bad are the others, 5dr especially so.
Racing Teatray

5dr looks like a particularly poor Chinese copy.
Roadrunner

Having spent much of the afternoon at a Mercedes showroom and having drive around leafy Worcestershire a purchase was made today. My mother decided that the CLA AMG was a bit too hardcore for her, so she has been looking at relatively more sensible options.

The wiiner was a 2015 C Class 200 AMG Line, in Hyacinth Red and fitted with Premium Pack and a few other choice extras. In Comfort mode it rides very smoothly indeed, it goes well and the panoramic roof is superb. Will be collected later next week












https://www.mercedes-benz.net/p/u.../6dd36b54283abfaa1fb65d583f488cac
Roadsterstu

Very smart indeed. If only my folks were that stylish!
gooner

That does look nice in that red, makes a great change from the 50 shades of grey that make up the rest of Mercedes paint palette!
Roadrunner

gooner wrote:
That does look nice in that red, makes a great change from the 50 shades of grey that make up the rest of Mercedes paint palette!


It is actually a bit less orange in real life, but it is one of my favourite current Benz colours. The showroom and forecourt were a sea of back, white and grey, so this makes a nice change.
Martin

I followed an E Class in that colour yesterday and it is nice.
JohnC

I like that and the brighter interior due to the light coloured leather and the sunroof. In that trim the C Class has (in my eyes) a touch of class and looks really solid. Great spec too although I have never had the nerve to trust the auto park on mine.
Frank Bullitt

Lovely, that really does look good
Boxer6

That colour spec really suits the C class IMO; lighter colours (or white!) do it no favours at all, and dark colours are simply boring now.

Hope she enjoys many happy miles in it.
PG

What a hip 75 year old. Good on her for going petrol.

Is there that much choice amongst petrol C class? About 99% I see are white, black or various shades of grey and 99.9% I see are diesels.
Andy C

Very nice
Roadrunner

PG wrote:
What a hip 75 year old. Good on her for going petrol.

Is there that much choice amongst petrol C class? About 99% I see are white, black or various shades of grey and 99.9% I see are diesels.


Yes, that's about right, hence the reason we so pleased to find this one reasonably locally. I think the petrol choice is either the 183 bhp 200, or the full fat 63 AMG, which is a step too far even for my mother.

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