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Maserati Levante

Unveiled:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news...te-leaked-ahead-geneva-motor-show

Blarno

Nope.
Frank Bullitt

Blarno wrote:
Nope.


+1
Michael

They have a habit of looking better in the metal. I'll reserve judgment.
gooner

Is it badge engineered Infinity?
Humphrey The Pug

gooner wrote:
Is it badge engineered Infinity?


Beat me to it; it is an FX but with horrible angles and teeth.

I like the FX, this though is horrid.
Racing Teatray

It's ok, given the competition. There is far worse in the premium SUV space.

Audi's Q offerings are all gopping apart from the Q5, which I quite like in SQ5 form if it has to be an SUV.
The Bentgaya is dreadful. You can disagree with me on that but you will be wrong. And whatever Rolls Royce eventually trots out will almost certainly be equally vast, ugly and in criminally bad taste.
BMW's new X1 is ok but hardly a rival for the Levante, but X3/4/5/6 are all awkward, horrid or both.
The F-Pace is about on par with the Levante looks-wise but somehow blander-looking.
The Cayenne is actually ok these days but it's old and the image is dodgy and I just can't get on with the back of the Macan, which is a featureless wasteland.
Infiniti? Why? Curiously chintzy and there's zero appeal if you don't live in somewhere like Palm Beach.
Jeep? Hahahahahahaha.......you're kidding right?
Mercedes' offerings are generally horrid other than the GLA, which really isn't an SUV, and the GLC which is inoffensive.
Land Rover? The only one blessed with unchavvy styling is the Discovery Sport. Even the Disco has tarty detailing these days. The Ewok is horrid. The full-fat RR looks bloated and has some awfully tinselly detailing. The RR Sport goes horribly wrong at the back where the rear lights are small and piggy.
Lexus? Don't even go there - utter monstrosities.
Mitsubishi Shogun? Does anyone anymore?
Toyota Landcruiser? Only if you actually need one.
VW Toerag and Tiguan are inoffensive and relatively discreet - two of the richest (as in a headline-worthy Euromillions win wouldn't even get you close rich) people I know drive Toerags precisely because they attract relatively little attention. But they are not exactly pulse-raising fare.
Volvo XC60? Yes, ok but ancient now. Yes the latest XC90 is quite nice but so vast it ought to be operated by Cunard and about as sporty as the Queen Mary to boot.
simonp

As ugly as the rest of the range...
Nice Guy Eddie

Oh dear Maserati, I don't mind it but with the history available to them why they chose inspiration from Infinity Is anyones guess
Big Blue

Vile in extremis. Cunty use of the badge. I must admit the old 2004-11 Quatroporte was so immensely right that everything I've seen from Bologna since is just missing something.

Of this ilk I only like the Merc GL as it's the only one that wears the big grille with ease due to its vastness. It also makes no pretence at being "sporting" or lithe: it's a fucking big tank and it will drive East into Warsaw and Prague at a moments notice.
Frank Bullitt

I quite like the XC90, followed one for miles on the M3 the other day and it's a wonderful piece of architecture - I can see the appeal.

The last X5 and M-Klasse looked decent but the current ones are fowl - oddly, I do like the Infiniti's too but the Italian facelift is doing it no favours.
Martin

I don't like the Maserati, but I do like the XC90, X5, Cayenne, Macan and FF Range Rover (in min bling spec). The end of term review of the RR Sport in this months Evo is a good reminder of however good these sort of cars are 'for SUVs', they're still no match for a decent saloon.
BeN

It looks like a DS4 on stilts.

A bit underwhelming IMO.
Nelson

In profile that isn't a bad design, the front reminds of the X5 but  the rear is bland and I really don't like the shape of the rear lights. It just doesn't look special, but I'll reserve full judgement until I see it in a different colour, if, for me, it doesn't look right in a dark/mid grey then it will just look wrong on any other colour.

Interior looks a nice place to be but overall I'd still have a Q5, Macan or RR Sport.

No, a little disappointed Maserati
ds240

I'm going to swim against the tide here....

Look, it's a SUV. It is never going to be or have the looks of a ground hugging sports car with beautiful flowing lines and to die for looks.

It is what it is.... And actually, I think for a SUV, it doesn't do a bad job of looking alright.

As pointed out in another post, there aren't exactly a great number of rivals you'd call beautiful.

I'm not entirely sure what people expect from these designs.

Anyway. In relation to rivals, so far I like it. No doubt there will be something bizarre that holds it back. The only thing I seemed to read about the gran turismo was how bad the seats were.
Big Blue

This is nicer. And someone decided to spec it properly as well.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201602040716006
Martin

It is a nice spec, but the description is for a Range Rover. It looks very old now and the last time I had a ride in one (about 3 years ago in a 6 month old D5), I wasn't that impressed.
Giant

ds240 wrote:
Look, it's a SUV. It is never going to be or have the looks of a ground hugging sports car with beautiful flowing lines and to die for looks.

It is what it is.... And actually, I think for a SUV, it doesn't do a bad job of looking alright.

I see no reason why SUVs can't be good looking, and some are ( RR range, XC90 and Toerag for example) It just takes an understanding of the proportions and styling and adding details to suit the proportions, not trying to graft the beautiful flowing lines of a sports car onto a large, tall vehicle. Most of the worst looking SUVs are the ones where they have tried to force sports car styling/proportions onto them (This, cayenne, bentayga, X6 etc). I imagine over time the manufacturers will find styling that works for SUVs as they develop, most are only on their first or second generation and had no SUV history to work from.

Not 'doing a bad job of looking alright' is the faintest of praise, and IMO unacceptable when they expect customers to sink north of 60k into one, but I'm never going to be the target customer and also detest the 'add more bling' style that is the fashion which this appears to follow.
PhilD

Michael wrote:
They have a habit of looking better in the metal. I'll reserve judgment.


Me too. Should sound good as well.
Racing Teatray

I finally got to be passengered in my friend's new Macan Turbo yesterday.

I still don't like the rear styling much, but otherwise it's jolly desirable. It's a very handy size and doesn't feel at all big driving around London. Has a very nice interior indeed. The only think I noted was that it sounded nice but it sounded mostly like a powerful BMW straight six than anything particularly Porsche-like, even with the optional Sports exhaust switched on.

Also...68k.... Yikes.
PhilD

Racing Teatray wrote:
I finally got to be passengered in my friend's new Macan Turbo yesterday.

I still don't like the rear styling much, but otherwise it's jolly desirable..


You say you like the Q5 too - they are the same underneath no? Both have excellent proportions and given the choice (of any SUV)  I'd take the Porsche. I even like the rear!


PG

I think that could look quite good in the flesh. A bit Macan meets Infiniti FX with a Maserati nose stuck on, but then that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Nelson

Some better pics here
http://www.motor1.com/news/61398/...rives-in-geneva-with-up-to-430-hp

I've changed my mind, I really like it. Looks superb in grey with those alloys

I think i'd still have a Macan or current Discovery over one but that's in my top 3 of larger SUV's
Alf McQueef

I'd have to see a few in the metal, but on first appearance the F Pace - as long as its the full fat one with the big wheels and everything - looks a lot better to me.

The whole sporty SUV thing is interesting. Evo's long termer Range Rover Sport concluded exactly what I'm sure I'd think - nice bit of metal, but never ever encourages you to go for a drive, or even wang it through a series of roundabouts with the TC off and using the paddles. But in the same article the Q3 RS is once again touted as a proper drivers car, and personally I feel I could easily "suffer" a Macan and indeed it might suit my mountain biking and so on (holiday cottages up the ends of long tracks, stuff like that).

Then again my first ever drive of a modern Rangie or Disco was when I had a brand new Disco recently as a loan car and I absolutely hated the high driving position. But then I was in a more car-like Touareg as a passenger and far preferred its lower seats. I used to hate "road biased" SUV's but am coming around a bit, one may replace the MPV one day as Lu is now tall enough not to really need the raised rear seats - and certainly will be come change time. Rs Q3 it is (if we have a minor lottery win!).
Scouse

Alf McQueef wrote:
I'd have to see a few in the metal, but on first appearance the F Pace - as long as its the full fat one with the big wheels and everything - looks a lot better to me.

The whole sporty SUV thing is interesting. Evo's long termer Range Rover Sport concluded exactly what I'm sure I'd think - nice bit of metal, but never ever encourages you to go for a drive, or even wang it through a series of roundabouts with the TC off and using the paddles. But in the same article the Q3 RS is once again touted as a proper drivers car, and personally I feel I could easily "suffer" a Macan and indeed it might suit my mountain biking and so on (holiday cottages up the ends of long tracks, stuff like that).

Then again my first ever drive of a modern Rangie or Disco was when I had a brand new Disco recently as a loan car and I absolutely hated the high driving position. But then I was in a more car-like Touareg as a passenger and far preferred its lower seats. I used to hate "road biased" SUV's but am coming around a bit, one may replace the MPV one day as Lu is now tall enough not to really need the raised rear seats - and certainly will be come change time. Rs Q3 it is (if we have a minor lottery win!).


To me, the idea of a 2-2.5 ton sideboard being wanged around corners in pointless. I much prefer the idea of them being point-and-squirt machines, which might go like stink and stop well, but need to be slower in the twisty bits.
Racing Teatray

Everything looks better when not painted Tart's Handbag White.
Tim

The rear end looks very Cayenne-esque and when that appeared in its current iteration I thought it reminded me of something like the Nissan Cashcow Mk1(I can't remember now exactly).
PhilD

Racing Teatray wrote:
Everything looks better when not painted Tart's Handbag White.


Including Alfa Spiders...
Alf McQueef

The Evo test of this was very positive in the new mag. Nice and supple and a decent handler, they say...I looked up tests of the Ghibli last week, because I don't seem to have seen any, and that seemed more poorly reviewed - and very expensive for what it is.

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