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Martin

Lifestyle Estate

I never thought Iíd see the day when I bought a roof rack, but itís happened. †

Weíre starting to cycle more and I want to keep at it, but I find it very dull riding on the same roads all the time, so want to venture a bit further afield. † I looked at the ĎWing Bar Edgeí Thule system (donít like look of overhanging bars), but ended up going for the BMW bars/Cycle carriers as they looked very similar but were slightly cheaper. †The cycle carrier is exactly the same as the Thule ProRide one, but surprisingly, slightly cheaper than the best price I could find. †I ended up getting 3, so all 4 of us can go out together with the smallest bike in the boot.

A bit of a fiddle getting them set up, but now thatís done it should only be a few minutes to get loaded up as itís a very simple system. † I went out for a test drive and the whistle started at 30mph, which was what I was concerned about (as that would drive me mad), but closing the sunroof blind made a huge difference as itís a solid panel. †With it closed, the whistle starts at 70mph, but you canít hear it with the radio on low. † A benefit of having a very quiet car to start with I suppose, along with the aero bars, the front bars even have little spoilers on the underside. † I didnít like seeing the bike wobble slightly through the roof, so would have closed the blind anyway!

First full outing planned for next weekend.





Iíve used the space properly twice this week too, I managed to get a new armchair for the guest room in on Tuesday, to save waiting in for a delivery.
Frank Bullitt

We have Thule Wing bars as they give you a wider bar than the OEM ones, the extra width means we can put the roof box on and FB juniors bike due to the overhang where as the OEM ones aren't quite big enough. If we go our somewhere local his bike goes in the boot and ours are on the roof.

To be honest I will get a towbar for the next car and a rack as Mrs FB has no chance of putting her bike on the roof if it's just the two of them and I'd like to take all the bikes and the 'box on holiday.

Ours don't whistle but you do get more wind noise above about 50mph - with the long windscreen you can see the front wheels above your head too.
Bob Sacamano

Just don't forget they're up there and try and park in the garage....
PhilD

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Just don't forget they're up there and try and park in the garage....


Tolls are also fun...
Martin

Bob Sacamano wrote:
Just don't forget they're up there and try and park in the garage....




It does make it awfully high, I hope I remember when going into car parks. †

I like the idea of a towbar mounted carrier, something to consider in the future if we keep cycling and want to do more / go further afield.

I saw an M4 with the suction cup bike holder and two bikes on the roof yesterday, which looked OK, but I like this idea.

PhilD

Re: Lifestyle Estate

Martin wrote:
I looked at the ĎWing Bar Edgeí Thule system (donít like look of overhanging bars), but ended up going for the BMW bars/Cycle carriers


this bit made me laugh  
Martin

Why, because of the branding? †I was tempted to pay more to avoid it, but that would have been a bit daft really as it's not that obvious, just the fin under the carriers (not fitted to the Thule rack) and moulded into the end caps on the bars.

Bob Sacamano

More "lifestyle" branded clothing required, I think.
gonnabuildabuggy

Frank Bullitt wrote:


To be honest I will get a towbar for the next car and a rack as Mrs FB has no chance of putting her bike on the roof if it's just the two of them and I'd like to take all the bikes and the 'box on holiday.


In the days when I went out with the kids on bikes then we'd stick them all in the boot of the FRV, the benefit of having 3 seats up front was being able to fit 3 or 4 adults in plus bikes.

That said, I should have had a tow bar fitted as a rear carrier is easiest all round and also best for holiday use I reckon.

I remember a group of us lifting a car park height restrictor to get a mates car in (oddly it was an open air car park so just to stop vans I guess) with a roof box fitted.
PhilD

Martin wrote:
Why, because of the branding?


Yes, just a chuckle really. Sorry. TBH if a manufacturer offered this an option I'd go for it as you would expect it to be tailored etc. Though if I were you I would have gone for the M-sport roof bars  
Martin

That's OK, chuckle away. †

Surely the M5 roof bars as they'd make the car a lot faster? †
Bob Sacamano

Martin wrote:
That's OK, chuckle away. †

Surely the M5 roof bars as they'd make the car a lot faster? †


Yeah but then you'd get into the realms of people buying ordinary bars and putting M-Sport badges on them. It's a can of worms.
Chris M Wanted a V-10

The Renault aero bars that I had on the Mk1 Scenic didn't cause any whistling or other noises at all.

The Thule bars I bought for, and fitted to, the C-Max for the famed mattress treck a month or so back were OK but (a) the instructions are an absolute joke, not telling you which bit aligns with the numbers on the bars when setting them up (I thought I'd got it right but when I put the bars onto the roof the brackets were far too close together, and (b) the catches/levers were all very stiff making it very difficult (and painful) to adjust the bars from their original settings.

I removed the whole lot before the return journey so don't know if the bars on their own whistle or not.  Roger Whittaker may have something to say on that matter.....
Martin

The whistle isn't high pitched, it's really just wind noise.
Frank Bullitt

Thule roof bar instructions are shocking, once you fit it all together it makes sense but until then it seems to be complete guesswork - they need to send you one set of simple instructions with the foot or conversion pack that covers the whole exercise.
Tim

I've always put our bikes in the back of the car (Punto, Stilo and 320) which is a bit of a faff but I just wouldn't be happy with them being outside!
Martin

The roof bars were really simple as the feet are attached to the bars.  Just loosen the clamp and lower them onto the rails.  The instruction book was huge and unnecessary.

The bike carriers were a bit more fiddly, especially as I wanted to change one around completely.
TreVoR

I have a tow bar mounted rack as I didn't like the idea of bikes on the roof - I would probably forget they were there.
Michael

I've got a roof system, it's a cheap Halfords effort that I ought to upgrade.
Height restrictors on car parks are an issue. I performed an emergency stop at a York car park as a remembered I had the bikes on the roof.
TreVoR

Michael wrote:
I've got a roof system, it's a cheap Halfords effort that I ought to upgrade.
Height restrictors on car parks are an issue. I performed an emergency stop at a York car park as a remembered I had the bikes on the roof.


Has your car got roof rails?  I have a set of Thule Wing Bars with the foot pack for cars with roof rails.
Michael

It has, yes. Are you selling?
TreVoR

You can have them gratis, I have no use for them.
Michael

You're too kind, and to think I was about to post a sarcastic comment on your recent Facebook post!
TreVoR

I'll drop them round next time I am in Darlington.
PhilD

TreVoR wrote:
I have a tow bar mounted rack as I didn't like the idea of bikes on the roof - I would probably forget they were there.


yeah me too.

I saw a bike on a roof the other day attached with suckers. Not sure I like the idea of that.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr

PhilD wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
Just don't forget they're up there and try and park in the garage....

Tolls are also fun...

And car parks with height restrictors, as a friend unfortunately found out.
Frank Bullitt

There was a Ford Galaxy a few years ago that was in the car park at work for about 3 weeks with a roof box on that had clearly been taken through rather than under a height barrier.

When using toll booths we just avoid the lower height ones but I've not been that far with the bikes on the roof to be honest. I think the roof box would just fit under but I'm not planning to try it!

Last summer I did notice a MINI going on to the 'normal height' Eurotunnel with a roof box on and I reckon there was no more than a centimeter or two above it.
PG

We've got a set of Thule bars and a roof box for the Shogun and can agree with the laughable instructions.

They're pretty tall on the roof of a 4x4. So if we are using the box (as we have done for a couple of holidays) we have to remember to carry a set of small folding steps in the boot.
Alf McQueef

Frank Bullitt wrote:
Thule roof bar instructions are shocking, once you fit it all together it makes sense but until then it seems to be complete guesswork - they need to send you one set of simple instructions with the foot or conversion pack that covers the whole exercise.


I'm glad its not just me. The first year we got Thule stuff - to take bikes on the roof of the Golf Plus to Cornwall - I got them too close to when we went away and had to unbox them, work them out, fit them, and pack the entire car (which, in our fairly traditional marriage, is 99% my job). It was not a good start to the holiday...

I used to buy an estate partly because I wanted to fit two bikes inside to enjoy the drive to/from MTB parks in Wales. When we started going 3-up it got too much and I started on the Thule route, which using the fork-mount bike carriers (the only real option for carbon bikes, the frames of which don't like being squished) is very secure. Whistle can be an issue - on estates with bars moving them around a bit - usually back - makes a huge difference.

Using them puts me off a 4x4 actually - the C Max's roof is bad enough, the 3 series Touring's low roof was really easy to load/unload bikes from, as is the XFR - the taller the car, the harder it gets...
scamper

PhilD wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
Just don't forget they're up there and try and park in the garage....


Tolls are also fun...


I might have found that out in France  
scamper

PhilD wrote:
TreVoR wrote:
I have a tow bar mounted rack as I didn't like the idea of bikes on the roof - I would probably forget they were there.


yeah me too.

I saw a bike on a roof the other day attached with suckers. Not sure I like the idea of that.


Seen suckers used on the rear of a T5 with the bike vertical  
Roadsterstu

PhilD wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
Just don't forget they're up there and try and park in the garage....


Tolls are also fun...


Height barriers over the entrance to the country park you are driving to....

I have a set of Thule bars and Proride racks. Thule and Volvo, a natural combination, of course.

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