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gonnabuildabuggy

Leaving the dark ages

Much as I love technology we're not in the "must update" camp so stuff is bought when needed, not when we fancy it.

Our TV is on it's way out so I need a new one. This seems good, any thoughts? 43" is as big as I'd like to go and really I'd go 40" but I suspect that 43" and 4K will be the basic spec of TV in a few years time so I want to future proof myself - http://www.richersounds.com/produ.../lg/43%22-4k-smart-tv/lg-43uh603v

At the same time I'll need to buy a cheap DVD/Blue Ray player as ours only has Scart output, and also a new Freeview Recorder to get the benefit of HD (ours doesn't)

Our Humax has been great so I guess just a newer one of those? Prices seem to have fallen since we bought our first one!
Roadsterstu

Why is 40" as big as you want to go?  It's not that big so unless you're limited by space I'd consider going a bit bigger than 40.  Up to 46 maybe?

Not sure on the DVD/Blueray player, depends how often you use it I guess but if it's anything like us, then it will be less and less as we stream more and more.

I can't fault my Humax Freesat box.  Well, I can but it's minor.  It takes ages to boot up which is a bit of a pain.  8 seconds of pain.  It's awful...
Alf McQueef

Is 43" becoming a very standard panel size for 4K then? I'm vaguely considering upgrading our lounge TV, which is 37". I like the slim, nearly borderless look of many new ones. Curved screens I am not yet sure about.

We get that with satnavs - all of a sudden its cheaper to source a 5" screen than a 4" one, which drives many of the changes...
franki68

I have this tv,bought about 6 weeks ago.,for use in my office/mancave.

It's pretty good,no complaints.Relatively future proof .You can see some cheapness in the build quality of the connections but its got a lot of features for the money.I paid £400 for it online with free delivery ,I will see if I can get the link if you want.
Humphrey The Pug

Replaced our ageing and dying Samsung 37" with a 43" Samsung a couple of months ago; due to having far thinner bezels the physical size of the 43" unit is the same as the older 37".

Went for a 4k Smart TV, very pleased with it and to me I think the optimum size for the size of the lounge and where we sit to view it, I'm not into going for a silly size just for the sake of it.

This is what I bought: http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-a...d-hdr-43-led-tv-10145700-pdt.html

As for BluRay, our ageing (same age as the TV; 7 years) Samsung BluRay player was buggering about a week or so ago so I thought I'd try the X-Box One BluRay player, wow the picture is so much better and the speed of loading is almost instant, looks like the BluRayer player will be heading for the bin.
franki68

Alf McQueef wrote:
Is 43" becoming a very standard panel size for 4K then? I'm vaguely considering upgrading our lounge TV, which is 37". I like the slim, nearly borderless look of many new ones. Curved screens I am not yet sure about.

We get that with satnavs - all of a sudden its cheaper to source a 5" screen than a 4" one, which drives many of the changes...



don't buy curved.My cousin is a distributor for panasonic and curved will fall by the wayside apparently.
Humphrey The Pug

franki68 wrote:
Alf McQueef wrote:
Is 43" becoming a very standard panel size for 4K then? I'm vaguely considering upgrading our lounge TV, which is 37". I like the slim, nearly borderless look of many new ones. Curved screens I am not yet sure about.

We get that with satnavs - all of a sudden its cheaper to source a 5" screen than a 4" one, which drives many of the changes...



don't buy curved.My cousin is a distributor for panasonic and curved will fall by the wayside apparently.


What's happened to 3D TV's; when I bought my new TV a couple of months ago I don't think I saw any 3D ones, or at least nothing jumped out at me, where a year or so ago it was 3D this, 3D that, 3D everywhere?
gonnabuildabuggy

Franki - please can you send me the link, thanks.

Stu - It's more about not dominating the Lounge, plus at the moment it's in a corner so there is a restriction on fit, though we'll probably wall mount in time. Our lounge is pretty large but I don't want a telly to dominate it.

Alf - 43" does seem to be the standard on 4K. At £400 I'm happy to go 4K, at £600 I wouldn't.
Humphrey The Pug

If you have Netflix, make sure you upgrade to 4K, it is amazing.
TreVoR

I have a Samsung 48" in the conservatory - it is the same physical size as the 42" in the lounge due to the smaller bezel but about a quarter of the thickness and weight.
franki68

Humphrey The Pug wrote:
franki68 wrote:
Alf McQueef wrote:
Is 43" becoming a very standard panel size for 4K then? I'm vaguely considering upgrading our lounge TV, which is 37". I like the slim, nearly borderless look of many new ones. Curved screens I am not yet sure about.

We get that with satnavs - all of a sudden its cheaper to source a 5" screen than a 4" one, which drives many of the changes...



don't buy curved.My cousin is a distributor for panasonic and curved will fall by the wayside apparently.


What's happened to 3D TV's; when I bought my new TV a couple of months ago I don't think I saw any 3D ones, or at least nothing jumped out at me, where a year or so ago it was 3D this, 3D that, 3D everywhere?


Same thing will happen with curved,tbh I don't get curved at all..if you say watch football on it the ground Markings appear curved .
They bring our new stuff then promote it as the best thing ever,it's always best just to wait and see what the market dictates rather than rush in.
gonnabuildabuggy

TreVoR wrote:
I have a Samsung 48" in the conservatory - it is the same physical size as the 42" in the lounge due to the smaller bezel but about a quarter of the thickness and weight.


It's only the smaller bezel which allows me (mentally) to go to 43", otherwise it would be 40" max.

I never buy tech until it's well aged....
TreVoR

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
TreVoR wrote:
I have a Samsung 48" in the conservatory - it is the same physical size as the 42" in the lounge due to the smaller bezel but about a quarter of the thickness and weight.


It's only the smaller bezel which allows me (mentally) to go to 43", otherwise it would be 40" max.

I never buy tech until it's well aged....


I thought my 10 year old Pioneer was on the way out last year.  I then discovered that plasma TVs lose some brightness over time and use so I spent an hour with an app and readjusted the settings. It's like new again.
Alf McQueef

Hmmm... interesting.

I don't think I'd have gone curved anyway, but thanks for the tip.

If 43" are the physical size of older 37" and decent 4k ones are sub £500 then I could well be tempted. We do watch a lot of Netflix. I thought they were far more than that...

Our lounge is quite long/narrow and we watch across the long side so we ought to go bigger, really, but Mrs ALF will not be keen. Then again I had a hotel room this week with what must have been a 50 or 60" newish TV, but it looked cack on SD because I was so close to it, you can definitely overdo it...
Martin

My advice would be to go for a slightly larger TV than you initially think, as you'll soon get used to it.  We had a nice 2 year old 40" HDTV when we moved and it looked way too small in the new living room which made it easy to justify getting a 50" 3D (cost £1800 3 years ago, prices have come down a lot).   It looked huge for about a week, but It doesn't now, the space could easily carry off a 60-65" TV without it looking too rediculous.   It's a bit early to upgrade without some decent man maths and we don't have fibre yet so wouldn't be able to watch 4K Netflix, but when we do, the research will start.
gonnabuildabuggy

Martin wrote:
My advice would be to go for a slightly larger TV than you initially think, as you'll soon get used to it.  We had a nice 2 year old 40" HDTV when we moved and it looked way too small in the new living room which made it easy to justify getting a 50" 3D (cost £1800 3 years ago, prices have come down a lot).   It looked huge for about a week, but It doesn't now, the space could easily carry off a 60-65" TV without it looking too rediculous.   It's a bit early to upgrade without some decent man maths and we don't have fibre yet so wouldn't be able to watch 4K Netflix, but when we do, the research will start.


Our 36" looked massive when we bought it, but tiny now.

I've used your logic to go for a 43" which I feel is too big (I'd go 40" ideally) but I'm sure we'll be used to it quite quickly. We've got 80mb download so no issues there.

I mentally struggle with prices some times though :) £1800 would buy you 6 Ford Focuses.......
Martin

The one I was looking at in John Lewis was £2,400, but that's OK as I don't want or need a Focus

It's only the same as fancy suspension on a 5 Series which makes it look better value!
Twelfth Monkey

Advice about going bigger than you think is good.

Advice about avoiding curved is too, I think.  Can work well if there is only one viewer and they sit in the sweet spot (central, correct distance), but when you have people scattered about the room, most will get greater distortion than the notion of curved is supposed to conteract.  It's a silly idea, I think.
Tim

One of my mates recently upgraded from a 32 to 40 but it was only when he pointed it out we realised the new TV was as the physical size was the same as the original due to the reduced frame width.
PG

Very topical, as we thinking about finally replacing our ancient TV.

For the luddites here on TV knowledge - i.e me - I read stuff that says don't go too big or else anything other than HD and Bluray will look awful.

We've got loads of DVD's and never got into blu ray. So should I go down in size to what might be optimum for the room size to avoid crap resolution. I've found this chart which seems to say you should downsize if you have lo-res stuff to watch - and it only goes up to 1080, not 4K.


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Bob Sacamano

We agonised over going from 32" to 43" 4K, thinking it looked massive in the shop. We got it home and it looked big for about 2 days and now I reckon we could have gone to 48" or more without a problem.
gonnabuildabuggy

Bob Sacamano wrote:
We agonised over going from 32" to 43" 4K, thinking it looked massive in the shop. We got it home and it looked big for about 2 days and now I reckon we could have gone to 48" or more without a problem.


Did you get any problems with resolution Bob?

Your wife did say she regretted not going bigger.
Twelfth Monkey

PG wrote:
Very topical, as we thinking about finally replacing our ancient TV.

For the luddites here on TV knowledge - i.e me - I read stuff that says don't go too big or else anything other than HD and Bluray will look awful.

We've got loads of DVD's and never got into blu ray. So should I go down in size to what might be optimum for the room size to avoid crap resolution. I've found this chart which seems to say you should downsize if you have lo-res stuff to watch - and it only goes up to 1080, not 4K.


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We've still got shedloads on DVD, and on a 65" screen at about 5.5m it's fine, probably fine rather nearer.  They clearly aren't as good as HD or (especially) Blu-ray, but still perfectly watchable.  The necessary upscaling is generally best done as close to the disc as possible, so you might be best served by getting a half-decent BR player.  If you start buying stuff on BR, you are unlikely ever to look back.  And unless you insist on buying stuff the instant it comes out, the price difference isn't all that.
Bob Sacamano

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
We agonised over going from 32" to 43" 4K, thinking it looked massive in the shop. We got it home and it looked big for about 2 days and now I reckon we could have gone to 48" or more without a problem.


Did you get any problems with resolution Bob?


Not at all, I'd used that distance to screen size table as a guide but the picture is so good in HD and 4K you can get very close without any issues.

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Your wife did say she regretted not going bigger.


She did, but that's a separate issue and as we've been married 28 years I think that ship has sailed for her.
gonnabuildabuggy

re the former - thanks Bob.

re the latter, there is a joke in there somewhere about getting a portable for the bedroom, but I won't go there.
Roadsterstu

TreVoR wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
TreVoR wrote:
I have a Samsung 48" in the conservatory - it is the same physical size as the 42" in the lounge due to the smaller bezel but about a quarter of the thickness and weight.


It's only the smaller bezel which allows me (mentally) to go to 43", otherwise it would be 40" max.

I never buy tech until it's well aged....


I thought my 10 year old Pioneer was on the way out last year.  I then discovered that plasma TVs lose some brightness over time and use so I spent an hour with an app and readjusted the settings. It's like new again.


Interesting, didn't know that. How does the app work? What app is it?
Andy C

Roadsterstu wrote:
TreVoR wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
TreVoR wrote:
I have a Samsung 48" in the conservatory - it is the same physical size as the 42" in the lounge due to the smaller bezel but about a quarter of the thickness and weight.


It's only the smaller bezel which allows me (mentally) to go to 43", otherwise it would be 40" max.

I never buy tech until it's well aged....


I thought my 10 year old Pioneer was on the way out last year.  I then discovered that plasma TVs lose some brightness over time and use so I spent an hour with an app and readjusted the settings. It's like new again.


Interesting, didn't know that. How does the app work? What app is it?


Thx tune up by any chance ?

We went from a 42inch plasma to a 55inch Oled at the start of the year . When Tara got home from work she initially told me it was ridiculous and that it's going back, but because it's so thin, she soon got used to it and now loves it !

If it has to be 40inch , I'd go with this
http://m.richersounds.com/#!/product/PANA-TX40DX600B

But TVs have no body and are so thin nowadays that in an average living room , 40 inch is just too small (as my mum has just found out).

I'd go for
http://m.richersounds.com/#!/product/LG-49UH661V
Big Blue

The user interface on Panachronics for a tv user is a million times better but the magic wand remote and app usage on the LG is better. Picture-wise I prefer the Panny but some stuff looks better on the LG (we've got one of each)
simonp

I still think that the only reason 4K was thrust upon us is because the former USP of 3D wasn't embraced by the public as the manufacturers had hoped. It is a marketing tool to sell more TVs, not a necessary feature, pure and simple. It does seem to be one that has legs this time around, though, so no doubt my next TV will feature it, but just how many manufacturers ae backing up their screens with 4K sources? Two? Only Samsung and Panasonic have a 4K disc player on the market as far as I know...
TreVoR

Andy C wrote:
Roadsterstu wrote:
TreVoR wrote:
gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
TreVoR wrote:
I have a Samsung 48" in the conservatory - it is the same physical size as the 42" in the lounge due to the smaller bezel but about a quarter of the thickness and weight.


It's only the smaller bezel which allows me (mentally) to go to 43", otherwise it would be 40" max.

I never buy tech until it's well aged....


I thought my 10 year old Pioneer was on the way out last year.  I then discovered that plasma TVs lose some brightness over time and use so I spent an hour with an app and readjusted the settings. It's like new again.


Interesting, didn't know that. How does the app work? What app is it?


Thx tune up by any chance ?

We went from a 42inch plasma to a 55inch Oled at the start of the year . When Tara got home from work she initially told me it was ridiculous and that it's going back, but because it's so thin, she soon got used to it and now loves it !

If it has to be 40inch , I'd go with this
http://m.richersounds.com/#!/product/PANA-TX40DX600B

But TVs have no body and are so thin nowadays that in an average living room , 40 inch is just too small (as my mum has just found out).

I'd go for
http://m.richersounds.com/#!/product/LG-49UH661V


Yeah, it was THX tuneup. You need to be able to mirror your phone to the TV screen to get it to work.

I've been a bit naughty and just bought this.

https://www.richersounds.com/prod...amsung/ue49ks8000/sams-ue49ks8000

I'm having handshaking issues with the HDMI ports on the Pioneer and it is getting worse. Had to disconnect and connect several times before the TV could connect properly last night. It has started throwing up fault messages about the display too.
Grampa

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Advice about going bigger than you think is good.

Advice about avoiding curved is too, I think.  Can work well if there is only one viewer and they sit in the sweet spot (central, correct distance), but when you have people scattered about the room, most will get greater distortion than the notion of curved is supposed to conteract.  It's a silly idea, I think.


I always assumed you had to sit in the sweet spot to watch a curved TV, then I went onto an exhibition stand for one of the manufacturers (I forget which) - the stand was set up to compare curved to flat and watching side on you actually see a lot more than you do on a flat screen - I was quite surprised.

Didn't persuade me to buy one though - like GBB at TV is something we only buy when necessary (i.e. when the old one stops working) - our first TV lasted 22 years, the next one only about 5 or 6 years, which is about where we are with the current one.  No way will we spend anywhere near £1800 on what for us is a distress purchase though, so as impressed as I was with a curved TV I doubt one is in our future.
Twelfth Monkey

Always be slightly wary of demos where you haven't chosen the source material yourself.  Interesting though.
gooner

I bought the 40" Panasonic hat Andy linked earlier from Richer Sounds and it is a fantastic tv in most respects, although the Smart functions don't always work, it keeps saying there's no internet connection when the router, and any other device connected to it, begs to differ. But watching Planet Earth 2 on it looked incredible.
Grampa

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Always be slightly wary of demos where you haven't chosen the source material yourself.  Interesting though.


I don't think there was much chance for them to pull the wool over my eyes - simply a flat screen tv of the same size mounted on a wall below a curved one - you just stood at either side and saw it with your own eyes.  The guy said they'd mounted them like that as it was a common misconception that you had to be at the centre of the radius of the curve to benefit from the curved screen.  IF I was to be spending that kind of money on a TV, I'd certainly be looking at a curved screen more closely.
Frank Bullitt

Our 4K Panasonic Viera, I think it's 50 or 51", our living room is long and relatively narrow at only 3.4m wide but the TV is not too big for the space;



Our old TV was a 37" Viera which seemed huge when we bought it in 2009!

We avoided curved as I tend to sit here when it's the three of us and wouldn't see it (we have a large L-shape sofa);

Bob Sacamano

You've just outed yourself as a secret Strictly fan...
JohnC

Are you resisting the calculator purchase?
Frank Bullitt

Like smart watches, calculators are overrated!

Bob Sacamano wrote:
You've just outed yourself as a secret Strictly fan...


That's why I'm on here, I get outvoted at this time of night 2:1...
Nice Guy Eddie

Don't be ashamed, strictly's awesome.

I'm still using a 10 year old Panasonic 37 inch Plasma and can't fault the picture. This thread has my wallet itching for something new.
Big Blue

What kind of fireplace is that, FB? Is it one of those real flame-uses-a-strange-liquid jobs or gas with a flue?
gooner

Nice Guy Eddie wrote:
Don't be ashamed, strictly's awesome.

I'm still using a 10 year old Panasonic 37 inch Plasma and can't fault the picture. This thread has my wallet itching for something new.


My Dads got the same, although he bought it about 6 years ago so it's slightly newer but the picture is still pretty good.
Frank Bullitt

Big Blue wrote:
What kind of fireplace is that, FB? Is it one of those real flame-uses-a-strange-liquid jobs or gas with a flue?


100% electric - it's there purely to look nice on a winters evening, we rarely turn the heating part on to be honest. When our home was extended to the front by a previous owner they left a 150mm snib to take the RSJ, when we did the lounge our chippie widened it to turn it into a 'chimney breast' to mount the fire place on, all the wiring etc is in the void.
simonp

I have the bottom of the range LG OLED (the B6) on my radar currently and was most surprised when Mrs P didn't exclaim at the price when I showed her it in Currys the other day. Mind you, she was treating herself to a 300 quid hairdryer at the time, so maybe she thought better of it!
Twelfth Monkey

Grampa wrote:
Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Always be slightly wary of demos where you haven't chosen the source material yourself.  Interesting though.


I don't think there was much chance for them to pull the wool over my eyes - simply a flat screen tv of the same size mounted on a wall below a curved one - you just stood at either side and saw it with your own eyes.  The guy said they'd mounted them like that as it was a common misconception that you had to be at the centre of the radius of the curve to benefit from the curved screen.  IF I was to be spending that kind of money on a TV, I'd certainly be looking at a curved screen more closely.


I did say it was interesting, so next time I go to Richers I'll be having a look.  Seems counterintuitive though, as the idea, as I understand it) is to make all parts of the screen equidistant and thereby remove the small distortions that come from the corners of a flat screen being a bit further away.  I can't say I've ever been aware of them, and the bigger the screen/further away it is, the smaller these should be I suppose.

But the equidistance argument would only hold true from one place, so I am intrigued.
gooner

simonp wrote:
I have the bottom of the range LG OLED (the B6) on my radar currently and was most surprised when Mrs P didn't exclaim at the price when I showed her it in Currys the other day. Mind you, she was treating herself to a 300 quid hairdryer at the time, so maybe she thought better of it!


300 quid for a hairdryer?! What else does it do?!
Andy C

Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Grampa wrote:
Twelfth Monkey wrote:
Always be slightly wary of demos where you haven't chosen the source material yourself.  Interesting though.


I don't think there was much chance for them to pull the wool over my eyes - simply a flat screen tv of the same size mounted on a wall below a curved one - you just stood at either side and saw it with your own eyes.  The guy said they'd mounted them like that as it was a common misconception that you had to be at the centre of the radius of the curve to benefit from the curved screen.  IF I was to be spending that kind of money on a TV, I'd certainly be looking at a curved screen more closely.


I did say it was interesting, so next time I go to Richers I'll be having a look.  Seems counterintuitive though, as the idea, as I understand it) is to make all parts of the screen equidistant and thereby remove the small distortions that come from the corners of a flat screen being a bit further away.  I can't say I've ever been aware of them, and the bigger the screen/further away it is, the smaller these should be I suppose.

But the equidistance argument would only hold true from one place, so I am intrigued.


Gotta be honest , when I bought my TV, I didn't fancy curved , but the only OLED I could afford was curved

I saw one in RS and the curve wasn't too bad , and most of the time you don't notice it

The viewing angles are fine though - not sure how well this will come out but here's a short clip at an angle and one straight on

https://youtu.be/e74j1d3u2eo
Andy C

simonp wrote:
I have the bottom of the range LG OLED (the B6) on my radar currently and was most surprised when Mrs P didn't exclaim at the price when I showed her it in Currys the other day. Mind you, she was treating herself to a 300 quid hairdryer at the time, so maybe she thought better of it!


Do it .  Mine is non 4K http://m.richersounds.com/#!/product/LG-55EG910V  (I couldn't afford or justify the extra £1000 for the limited amount of 4K content ), but the picture is mind blowing , and blows any LED set out of the water to my eye.  Also , where i sit , it would be difficult to notice much difference anyway
simonp

I'd be happy enough with a 1080 one, but they don't make one anymore and the price difference has shrunk anyway...
gonnabuildabuggy

Decision nearly made.

After looking at a lot over the weekend, then we've decided to go 49" which seems to be the standard nowadays.

I ended up doing a cardboard cut out of the size to see how it would fit in the lounge and no issues there.

I was disappointed with the picture quality on the £399 LG I'd linked (and it was very thick compared to alternatives) to originally so at the moment I'm torn between these two.

http://www.johnlewis.com/sony-bra...-now-silver-shaft-design/p2987248

http://www.richersounds.com/produ...amsung/ue49ku6400/sams-ue49ku6400

Keen to get one this week. Cheaper on Amazon but laziness says buying from JL/Richer gives a 5/6 yr warranty which would be as long as I need it to last.

I'd consider curved but are wary of heat issues if we mounted it above the fireplace (when we finally get the fire done)
Bob Sacamano

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Decision nearly made.

After looking at a lot over the weekend, then we've decided to go 49" which seems to be the standard nowadays.

I ended up doing a cardboard cut out of the size to see how it would fit in the lounge and no issues there.

I was disappointed with the picture quality on the £399 LG I'd linked (and it was very thick compared to alternatives) to originally so at the moment I'm torn between these two.

http://www.johnlewis.com/sony-bra...-now-silver-shaft-design/p2987248

http://www.richersounds.com/produ...amsung/ue49ku6400/sams-ue49ku6400

Keen to get one this week. Cheaper on Amazon but laziness says buying from JL/Richer gives a 5/6 yr warranty which would be as long as I need it to last.

I'd consider curved but are wary of heat issues if we mounted it above the fireplace (when we finally get the fire done)


The Sony one is the one we've got an it's very good. It was a bit of a toss up between that and the Samsung but I think the sound was a bit better on the Sony. Probably not an issue if you're going to use a soundbar or the like. There may have been an issue with the smart apps on the Samsung IIRC not being fully developed at the time as well but I can't really remember.
gonnabuildabuggy

Thanks. As prices stand it's the one I'd buy but curious to see if either have deals this week as we approach Black Friday.

EDIT - Bob - does it have Freeview Play/Youview?
Frank Bullitt

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:

I'd consider curved but are wary of heat issues if we mounted it above the fireplace (when we finally get the fire done)


I'd be more concerned about the permanent crick in your neck!
Big Blue

TVs above the mantle are too high unless you have stacked sesting opposite. As FB says, you'll get crick in your neck.
Twelfth Monkey

Tv's should be at head-height, though I suspect you know that!  The irony is that a curved one which is placed high will probably have more problems with the aforementioned equidistance than a flat one.  The location of the fireplace is far from ideal in most British homes, from a viewing perspective, anyway.
Bob Sacamano

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Thanks. As prices stand it's the one I'd buy but curious to see if either have deals this week as we approach Black Friday.

EDIT - Bob - does it have Freeview Play/Youview?


Yes, it has a standalone button on the remote for Netfix - well actually a quite big button with "NETFLIX" on it - must be some sort of marketing agreement between Sony and Netflix. It has the standard Youview set up and if you press the home button it brings up all the iPlayer, Amazon, Sony, YouTube apps etc.
Grampa

Big Blue wrote:
TVs above the mantle are too high unless you have stacked sesting opposite. As FB says, you'll get crick in your neck.


My daughter and son-in-law have a high mounted TV - not above the fire place but at that height - I can't tell you how uncomfortable it is to watch - I can't imagine who thought of above the fire place as being a good idea, and surely the heat can't be good for any TV?
Martin

Just had an email from Richer sounds, they have an offer on the Samsung UE55KS7000, was £1299 now £979.  What HiFi awards winner 2016 and there's a special offer of a half price UHD Blu-Ray player and £100 off a soundbar.
gonnabuildabuggy

Martin wrote:
Just had an email from Richer sounds, they have an offer on the Samsung UE55KS7000, was £1299 now £979.  What HiFi awards winner 2016 and there's a special offer of a half price UHD Blu-Ray player and £100 off a soundbar.


Some good deals around right now.

I've blown my budget by 50% and bought a 49" Bravia for £599.

It was a toss up between the Bravia and a Samsung (both £599) and the Bravia one on having Youview (catch up's integrated) whereas the Samsung only has iPlayer and I think it was ITV hub at present.

The Samsung will have the better picture I'm sure but given I've been happy enough with a 36", 8 yr old Toshiba then I'm sure any difference won't bother me, whilst the lack of proper catch up might irk after a while.

The more I looked the more the budget crept up but I concluded £599 was sufficient to get a TV more than adequate for our needs and a screen bigger than 49" would be a step too far.
TreVoR

My Samsung arrived last night. I installed it this morning and I have to say I am very impressed. The Pioneer had a great picture, but tech has moved on so much that the new one blows it into the weeds.

I really like the speed of the UI and the minimalist smart remote works really well.

The Pioneer will be going on eBay.
Clunes

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Martin wrote:
Just had an email from Richer sounds, they have an offer on the Samsung UE55KS7000, was £1299 now £979.  What HiFi awards winner 2016 and there's a special offer of a half price UHD Blu-Ray player and £100 off a soundbar.


Some good deals around right now.

I've blown my budget by 50% and bought a 49" Bravia for £599.

It was a toss up between the Bravia and a Samsung (both £599) and the Bravia one on having Youview (catch up's integrated) whereas the Samsung only has iPlayer and I think it was ITV hub at present.

The Samsung will have the better picture I'm sure but given I've been happy enough with a 36", 8 yr old Toshiba then I'm sure any difference won't bother me, whilst the lack of proper catch up might irk after a while.

The more I looked the more the budget crept up but I concluded £599 was sufficient to get a TV more than adequate for our needs and a screen bigger than 49" would be a step too far.


I doubt there's much in it picture wise. Some of the Sony panels and picture software are outstanding and not unusual for them to beat Samsung etc in reviews. I would suggest googling some recommended settings for your model to get the best out of it. Setup makes a big difference as they often come with settings that are over the top in brightness/colour etc and tweaking these is key.

Also the Sony panel we have benefits from a different setting if you are watching it in darkness e.g. A film at night - I am very impressed with the blacks on ours which is key to a good picture.

Samsung will need the same tweaking and I find the Samsung interface more intuitive and faster than the Sony which, on mine at least, has a few quirks.

Either way - enjoy it :)
simonp

Cyber Monday tomorrow.

Any new deals gonna surface, I wonder...?
gonnabuildabuggy

Martin wrote:
It looked huge for about a week, but It doesn't now.


I hope so because right now the 49" looks flipping enormous.

Oddly FB's didn't look anywhere near so big in the pictures.

I am sure we will get used to.

The kids love it, something about TV being "an immersive experience".

Right now watching the news feels like I've turned up at the Conservative Party conference and Theresa May is speaking in the corner.
Bryan M

We have have taken the plunge and upgraded from a 7 year old Sony Bravia 32" and upgraded to a 40" Samsung UE40K2020 for £349 from John Lewis with a 5 year warranty.

The picture quality and having netflix etc on tap are brilliant, although having such a thin frame is taking bit of getting used to!
Twelfth Monkey

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Right now watching the news feels like I've turned up at the Conservative Party conference and Cruella De Vil is speaking in the corner.


FYP.

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