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Alf McQueef

Just as I was remarking I had had a trouble-free year...

The air con seems to have broken! Whoops! Didn't the same just happen to PG's XFR?

Oh well - booked in next Friday for a look, at least with the air con seats it blows loads of air through them so you are not sitting on really hot leather.... And its n excuse to hear the engine.

Needless to say, Mrs ALF spotted it - she just did me a favour by taking it up the road for some fuel as she was going to the local shops, and moaned vociferously about it - I tried it and it is definitely not blowing cold air...

Apart from that, it has been an awesome first year, I have to say...
gonnabuildabuggy

Re: Just as I was remarking I had had a trouble-free year...

Alf McQueef wrote:
The air con seems to have broken! Whoops! Didn't the same just happen to PG's XFR?

Oh well - booked in next Friday for a look, at least with the air con seats it blows loads of air through them so you are not sitting on really hot leather.... And its n excuse to hear the engine.

Needless to say, Mrs ALF spotted it - she just did me a favour by taking it up the road for some fuel as she was going to the local shops, and moaned vociferously about it - I tried it and it is definitely not blowing cold air...

Apart from that, it has been an awesome first year, I have to say...


I suspect it went a while ago but Mrs. ALF has noticed it now the weather has suddenly warmed up.

We've had this with all the E500, FRV and MINI. A "not sure if it's working or not" for a while, then realised definitely not working 100% when you get a really warm day.

I suspect it justs needs re-gassing. The E500 had a system where it packed up on one side first (Drivers) when it started running out of gas. The guy who regassed them advised they lose circa 10% per year and the E500 and FRV were fine post re-gas. The MINI lost it again an needed new valves.
Alf McQueef

Very possibly. It was acceptable but not the best last year, and has been a bit weird this spring - I suspect as you say it has been so cool today is the first time I would have noticed. It's not just a bit worse though, there is no cool air at all, and no sound of the compressor coming on when switched off/on, wich is exactly what happened to the GTA. That had air con which was endlessy broken, with a variety of reasons given from "we can't find a fault but the compressor is not coming on" to "the front pipes are broken".

The A4 and 330 never needed a regass and were much older, in fact I have never had any cars regassed I think except the GTA during the issues above. All have worked fine to a ripe old age.  

Hopefully this will be sorted quickly - we shall see! The overall impression of Jaguar dealers so far is more Ford/Alfa than BMW/Audi...
PG

Alf McQueef wrote:
Hopefully this will be sorted quickly - we shall see! The overall impression of Jaguar dealers so far is more Ford/Alfa than BMW/Audi...


Yes, same has happened on mine and it was fixed last week. I suspect it had been broken a few weeks. but I noticed it on the first warm day. It needed a new compressor. All done under warranty.
TreVoR

Compressor won't necessarily come on due to low pressure of gas to protect it, so may just need a top up.
simonp

http://sniffpetrol.com/2015/08/18/everything-just-needs-a-re-gas/
Martin

Hopefully it's something simple like a re-gas and whatever it is, at least you have a warranty.  Unscheduled visits to the garage are a pain though
Chris M Wanted a V-10

The maximum I've ever let an a/c system go without servicing or re-gas is 4 years.  The only issue I've had with a/c is when the system on the Galaxy packed up just a few weeks after I bought it, and that took 3 visits to the dealers to fix under warranty.
Why scrimp on maintenance on what is an expensive piece of equipment (the car)?
Alf McQueef

I hope Sniff Petrol are right - but like  I say every single time I have had an air con issue it has been a lot more than a regas! The fact PG needed a new compressor suggests it may need more than one trip to the garage...

Martin - tell me about it - garages never seem to have a loaner within about a 3 week period so issues are most unwelcome. They can hire a car for £18 though - I think I'll have to take them up on that...
gonnabuildabuggy

Alf McQueef wrote:
I hope Sniff Petrol are right - but like  I say every single time I have had an air con issue it has been a lot more than a regas! The fact PG needed a new compressor suggests it may need more than one trip to the garage...

Martin - tell me about it - garages never seem to have a loaner within about a 3 week period so issues are most unwelcome. They can hire a car for £18 though - I think I'll have to take them up on that...


Plenty of loaners there, usually driven by the salesmen. Just ask for one of theirs instead  
Bob Sacamano

I never turn my aircon off and *touch wood* never had a problem. They seem to always go wrong when they haven't been used through the winter, the seals dry out, and when they're switched on the faults appear. Hopefully it will just need a re-gas.
TreVoR

Bob Sacamano wrote:
I never turn my aircon off and *touch wood* never had a problem. They seem to always go wrong when they haven't been used through the winter, the seals dry out, and when they're switched on the faults appear. Hopefully it will just need a re-gas.


They should be run for at least 10 minutes a week to let the oil circulate.  When I had cars with A/C or climate I just left it on all the time too.  Helps with keeping the windows clear in the winter in any case.
gonnabuildabuggy

TreVoR wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
I never turn my aircon off and *touch wood* never had a problem. They seem to always go wrong when they haven't been used through the winter, the seals dry out, and when they're switched on the faults appear. Hopefully it will just need a re-gas.


They should be run for at least 10 minutes a week to let the oil circulate.  When I had cars with A/C or climate I just left it on all the time too.  Helps with keeping the windows clear in the winter in any case.


Same
Frank Bullitt

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
TreVoR wrote:
Bob Sacamano wrote:
I never turn my aircon off and *touch wood* never had a problem. They seem to always go wrong when they haven't been used through the winter, the seals dry out, and when they're switched on the faults appear. Hopefully it will just need a re-gas.


They should be run for at least 10 minutes a week to let the oil circulate.  When I had cars with A/C or climate I just left it on all the time too.  Helps with keeping the windows clear in the winter in any case.


Same


Ditto, never turn it off on any car and always get a re-gas and clean done very 2 years.
Martin

gonnabuildabuggy wrote:
Alf McQueef wrote:
I hope Sniff Petrol are right - but like  I say every single time I have had an air con issue it has been a lot more than a regas! The fact PG needed a new compressor suggests it may need more than one trip to the garage...

Martin - tell me about it - garages never seem to have a loaner within about a 3 week period so issues are most unwelcome. They can hire a car for £18 though - I think I'll have to take them up on that...


Plenty of loaners there, usually driven by the salesmen. Just ask for one of theirs instead  


My salesman promised me his car if I ever needed one at short notice...I hope not to have to test that.  I booked mine in for a service on Tuesday, earliest with a loan car was the very end of the month, so it's going in next Thursday at 8am for a while you wait.
Roadsterstu

What does while-you-wait include?

I tend to run the AC on the V50 several times a month through the winter. From about now it tends to be left on most of the time. The Captur's default setting is on.
Martin

A free coffee or two, bacon roll and wifi.  They said it will take about 90mins and they'll be able to start straightaway
Bob Sacamano

Martin wrote:
A free coffee or two, bacon roll and wifi.  They said it will take about 90mins and they'll be able to start straightaway


No warm chamois??
Martin

BMW service isn't quite up there with Lexus or Porsche.  But at least it won't cost me anything.  Aside from winter wheels/tyres and the usual fuel/tax/insurance I haven't had to spend anything on it yet (38,000 miles)
Chris M Wanted a V-10

Re: Just as I was remarking I had had a trouble-free year...

Alf McQueef wrote:
The air con seems to have broken! Whoops!


In some ways, count yourself relatively lucky.
Not only did someone reverse into Boris, elder duaghter's Auris last Saturday but this morning she and her partner woke up to find that overnight, someone has forced their way into their garage and shed, significantly damaging the doors, and helped themselves to a lawnmower, bicycle(s), our grand-daughter's outdoor toys and goodness knows what else :-(
The joys of living in Nottingham.  They are both students and I just hope that (1) the Police arrive without keeping them waiting too much longer and (2) the contents insurance covers them for all the loses apart from the excess.

They're currently waiting for the OK to go to nearest DIY place to buy wood etc to patch the doors up......

Meantime if anyone tries to flog you a red electric Mini Cooper convertible or silver BMW motorbike without batteries or chargers, or a petrol lawnmower or a bike or two ...........
Alf McQueef

I like a while you wait service - I used that with BMW a few times. As long as there is sufficient seatin space and its not too cramped/noisy its OK, I may as well work there as anywhere!

I, too, always run my air con regularly through the winter - I'm always sneaking it back on on Mrs ALF's car! Weirdly mine started working yesterday for a drive to Bristol (cross-country the whole way, and epic!), before breaking again as I got to the city's outskirts, and being broken all the way home... So maybe a regass will sort it after all!
Martin

I know you're supposed to, but I've never bothered to run aircon thought the winter and never had an issue.  (Touch wood).

Hopefully it will be fixed soon, it's been lovely and warm the last couple of days
Frank Bullitt

Alf McQueef wrote:
Weirdly mine started working yesterday for a drive to Bristol (cross-country the whole way, and epic!), before breaking again as I got to the city's outskirts, and being broken all the way home... So maybe a regass will sort it after all!


That sounds comparable to an issue we had on the Picasso in 2012 - in France we had a mini-heatwave (33C) and the A/C chose to stop working - it would start then stop after a few seconds; the day after was a drive home so I set off crack of dawn and it was fine (and cooler) but as we hit Rouen and the temp rose to 27C again it stopped working only to start again when we got on the move. It was fine after but a few weeks later when it got hotter in Blighty exactly the same fault - it was diagnosed as either a faulty pressure sensor which when asked to work hard spat it's dummy out. Once replaced it was fine and we never had another issue.

If your car will blow cold, it's not likely a re-gas job.
Roadsterstu

Frank Bullitt wrote:
Alf McQueef wrote:
Weirdly mine started working yesterday for a drive to Bristol (cross-country the whole way, and epic!), before breaking again as I got to the city's outskirts, and being broken all the way home... So maybe a regass will sort it after all!


That sounds comparable to an issue we had on the Picasso in 2012 - in France we had a mini-heatwave (33C) and the A/C chose to stop working - it would start then stop after a few seconds; the day after was a drive home so I set off crack of dawn and it was fine (and cooler) but as we hit Rouen and the temp rose to 27C again it stopped working only to start again when we got on the move. It was fine after but a few weeks later when it got hotter in Blighty exactly the same fault - it was diagnosed as either a faulty pressure sensor which when asked to work hard spat it's dummy out. Once replaced it was fine and we never had another issue.

If your car will blow cold, it's not likely a re-gas job.


Bollocks. My AC has played up today. Was fine on a trip to Coventry but on the way home it would run for a few seconds then give in. However, just before home it ran fine. Last summer, at a standstill on the motorway, in 37 degree heat (37!) it gave in, only to work fine once up to a decent speed. There is apparently a known issue whereby the magnetic clutch can't cope when fairly well worn and the heat on really hot days makes it ineffective. Once moving, cooler air in the engine bay allows it to work again. Today was only 19 to 20 degrees, though and whilst moving it didn't improve. I am going to try a regas as I have no idea when it was last done, if ever. I will try that and see how we go.

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